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post #241 of 253 Old 04-15-2015, 07:12 AM
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Anyone know of an HDMI CATx extender capable of doing UHD/60Hz at 4:4:4 chroma with full 18+ Gbps bandwidth?


Most everyone I find tops out at 10+ Gbps, which means UHD?6Hz at 4:2:0.


I'm looking for one that supports full ARC as well. ARC seems to be a missing feature of most extenders.
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Can anyone recommend the best "brand" to look at for HDbaseT? I know monoprice has some but I'm guessing better quality solutions exist from other manufacturers.
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Anyone know of an HDMI CATx extender capable of doing UHD/60Hz at 4:4:4 chroma with full 18+ Gbps bandwidth?


Most everyone I find tops out at 10+ Gbps, which means UHD?6Hz at 4:2:0.


I'm looking for one that supports full ARC as well. ARC seems to be a missing feature of most extenders.
HDBT does not support ARC on any of their products. So, if you see any extender which supports ARC, then it is not HDBT.

Likewise, Valens has HDBT chipsets which support HDMI 1.4 and UHD in 4:2:0, but not in 4:4:4 according to their website...

http://www.valens.com/products/vs2310

Hopefully in the next year or so, we will see products which can handle a bit more.

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I'm looking for suggestions for equipment with two scenarios I'm working with.


1. At my house I need a matrix that will allow a minimum of 2 hdmi inputs - a satellite receiver and a media player (4 would be nice for future proofing). This will be located at a TV so I also need to send those 2 sources back to the TV. I then want to send the other two via cat6 to a 2nd TV location. In this scenario I also have a cat5e coming up from the basement theatre rack that would be awesome to tie in at some point for consoles in the rack however I also have an hdmi cable running the same path that I could also use.


2. Inlaws house. Cat6 to all TV locations (5 right now and maybe more later) which then terminate in an equipment closet in the basement. 2 Satellite receivers (1 for each floor of the house) to all locations eats up 2 inputs, maybe a bluray player or some other source down the line for a 3rd so a matrix will also be in order.


I know monoprice has great prices but I need 100% reliability without having to reset units every so often. I have also found in the past the hdmi switches I used degraded the picture quality (this might no longer be the case).
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Sno Crash – as Andy says either centralise your games console and control it remotely or have it ‘in zone’ and potentially send back its Optical Out over a single CAT cable using a lower cost Optical over CAT extender.

HD over LAN (no matter who’s badge is on the box) has to compress the video signal – it’s not a show killer for Commercial applications or smaller TV's but it looks ‘unnatural’ on a larger TV if you are used to viewing non-compressed HDMI.

We have recently introduced our own solution and its being going well in the commercial market - http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI_extender_LAN_HDDSX.html

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Your post was a couple of years ago, but I assume the product is still on the market. I want to send a signal from my home theater to my kitchen. Both rooms are connected through a router and with Ethernet switches. Can I plug your transmitter into the switch in the theater room and the receiver into the switch in the kitchen and from there to a TV, thereby receiving the same signal in both room simultaneously? The distance is less than 100 feet. Will the sound sync, or will there be a delay?
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HD over LAN is still best suited to Commercial applications - though I have seen it used in Residential, esp. where you have a connection to a 'smaller' (sub 50") TV.


HDBT is still preferred for Residential - though it does require a 'direct' connection between the Transmitter and Receiver and not routed though your Network.


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HD over LAN is still best suited to Commercial applications - though I have seen it used in Residential, esp. where you have a connection to a 'smaller' (sub 50") TV.


HDBT is still preferred for Residential - though it does require a 'direct' connection between the Transmitter and Receiver and not routed though your Network.


Joe

Thanks Joe - It is going to connect to a 48 inch TV and eventually to a back to back 38 inch TV. The line out would come from an AVR or a pre-pro. Now that I think about it, if I could put it on the network, I could send the signal all over the house with additional receivers to the bedroom and the patio because those TVS are also on the home network. Now what problems would I create for myself?
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Quick question, I'm in the process of building a new home and throughout the process I've been buying products needed here and there.

I plan to have all of my set top boxes, receivers, etc. all inside centrally located closet.

I already have (2) Binary HDBaseT's but came across another one at a good price. Is it overkill to add another, making the total of HDBaseT's in the home at (3).

Just wanted to check with everyone to see if I should spend my money elsewhere, thank you for the support.
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Consoles and HDBase T 2.0

Hi,

I have been reading the comments on this thread and only playback solutions are mentioned. Does HDBaseT work correctly with games consoles (specifically PS3/4 and Xbox One). I realise that Kinect is out, as is Eyetoys (but they're pretty useless anyway). However what about the standard controllers? I believe they are normally Bluetooth, but don't know if they fallback to USB if available on the current generation. Obviously a console without a controller is a bit useless. Are there any repeaters? Finally are there any Matrices that fully support HDBaseT 2.0 (needed for USB support I gather) on the market? Or are they all "coming soon"?

Many thanks for any advice,

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Hello!


Is there such a thing as an HDBaseT (input) to 4 HDBaseT (outputs) splitter?
There are plenty of HDMI to 4/8 HDBaseT splitters.
There is at least one HDBaseT to 8 HDMI out splitter (Leaf LTB8).


My situation is that my video source is in the living room, all my CAT5E cables home-run to a mini wiring closet in the garage, and I need to send that video source to the kitchen and bedrooms. I would like to avoid converting the HDBaseT in the wiring closet back to HDMI only to convert it again to 4 HDBaseT outputs.


All displays support 1080P and Dolby TrueHD/DTS Master Audio, so EDID management is not an issue. I also don't need RS232, IR or networking support, just the most efficient way to get audio and video from point A to point B and from point B to points C, D, E and F.


Is there some obscure piece of equipment from a manufacturer where you have to "know a guy" in the business to reach that does this, or do I HAVE to go HDMI->HDBaseT-HDMI-HDBaseT-HDMI?


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Just noticed that Atlona is selling this unit now:

http://atlona.com/product/at-uhd-ex-70-2ps/

4K/UHD HDMI Over HDBaseT TX/RX Kit

Model Number: AT-UHD-EX-70-2PS

4K/UHD capability
HDCP 2.2 compliant
Long distance HDMI extension
Field updatable firmware
Multi-channel audio compliant
Front panel Power and Link status LEDs
Rear panel I/O connectors

Video: 4096×2160@24/25/30/50*/60Hz*, 3840×2160@24/25/30/50*/60Hz*, 2048x1080p, 1080p@23.98/24/25/29.97/30/50/59.94/60Hz, 1080i@50/59.94/60Hz, 720p@50/59.94/60Hz, 576p, 576i, 480p, 480i

VESA: 2560×2048, 2560×1600, 2048×1536, 1920×1200, 1680×1050, 1600×1200, 1600×900, 1440×900, 1400×1050, 1366×768, 1360×768, 1280×1024, 1280×800 1280×768, 1152×768, 1024×768, 800×600, 640×480

Colorspace : YCbCr, RGB
Chroma Subsampling: 4:4:4, 4:2:2, 4:2:0
Color depth : 8-bit, 10-bit, 12-bit

Audio
Formats PCM 2Ch, LPCM 5.1, LPCM 7.1, Dolby Digital, DTS 5.1, Dolby Digital+, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby Atmos
Sample Rate 32kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz
Bit Rate up to 24-bit

Distance (per port)
CAT5e/6 @ 4K up to 35 meters up to 115 feet
CAT6a/7 @ 4K up to 40 meters up to 130 feet
CAT5e/6 @ 1080p up to 60 meters up to 197 feet
CAT6a/7 @ 1080p up to 70 meters up to 230 feet
HDMI IN/OUT @ 4K up to 5 meters up to 15 feet
HDMI IN/OUT @ 1080p up to 10 meters up to 30 feet

Signal
Bandwidth 10.2 Gbps
CEC Pass through
HDCP Supports up to 2.2

Connector
Firmware Mini-B USB
HDBaseT RJ45 (8P8C)
HDMI Type A
Power DC 5V locking connector

Certification
Power Supply CE, FCC, RoHS, cULus, RCM, CCC
Product CE, FCC
* * 4096×2160@50/60Hz & 3840×2160@50/60Hz supported @ chroma subsampling 4:2:0 8-bit only


I noticed one on Amazon for a decent price: http://www.amazon.com/Atlona-AT-UHD-.../dp/B00US6DDEG
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The Atlona Manual states - 'Chroma Subsampling 4:4:4, 4:2:2, 4:2:0 (UHD only)' - would be worth a call to confirm if you do require 2160p/60 with 4:4:4.

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I've decided to wait. When I decide to upgrade from my current setup, I'll buy a 18 Gbps matrix switcher.

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