Hdmi 1.3 or 1.4 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 11 Old 04-04-2012, 05:00 PM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mdloesch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Bought a new led HDTV and experiencing some motion blur, or lag not quite sure how to describe it. Could this possibly be fixed with hdmi 1.4 cable? Using a hdmi cable from about 4 years ago and pretty sure it's 1.3.
mdloesch is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 Old 04-04-2012, 05:01 PM
AVS Special Member
 
pokekevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 5,063
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 101
There's only normal and highspeed cables. The numbers are the devices like 1.4 devices support 3d. What exact problems do you have

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
pokekevin is offline  
post #3 of 11 Old 04-04-2012, 05:10 PM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mdloesch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Have found with higher speed sports scenes like golf and baseball, the ball seems to have a small trail. Playing tiger woods on ps3 is the worst. Just doesn't seem smooth when following the golf ball.
mdloesch is offline  
post #4 of 11 Old 04-04-2012, 07:22 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Colm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,652
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 87
The problem isn't the HDMI cable.
Colm is offline  
post #5 of 11 Old 04-04-2012, 08:47 PM
 
alk3997's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,722
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colm View Post

The problem isn't the HDMI cable.

As Colm said, not the HDMI cable. Try your owners manual and look at the different refresh rates. Try 120Hz and 240Hz and then 60Hz. Also check your contrast and brightness controls. One of those will solve your problem.

And, of course, despite the manufacturer's advertisements you don't actually have an LED TV. You have an LCD TV with LED backlights.
alk3997 is offline  
post #6 of 11 Old 04-05-2012, 10:26 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mdloesch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Alright thanks. Samsung has there clear motion rate, does turning that off and
on change from 240hz to 120hz and so on?
mdloesch is offline  
post #7 of 11 Old 04-05-2012, 10:35 AM
 
alk3997's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,722
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdloesch View Post

Alright thanks. Samsung has there clear motion rate, does turning that off and
on change from 240hz to 120hz and so on?

We don't use Samsung but I believe that is correct. Basically what you are seeing are motion artifacts created on the display. It really has nothing to do with the input signal. It isn't unusual on an LCD TV - Google "LCD motion artifacts Samsung" (no quotes) and I'll bet you get a few hits.
alk3997 is offline  
post #8 of 11 Old 04-05-2012, 10:45 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mdloesch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Different opinions when I google that. Some people say it can be reduced, some say you can not avoid it. I will play with the settings. I have been thinking about purchasing a calibration disc also. Would this help with those settings or mostly colors? Also would you recommend a disc?
mdloesch is offline  
post #9 of 11 Old 04-05-2012, 01:06 PM
 
alk3997's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,722
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdloesch View Post

Different opinions when I google that. Some people say it can be reduced, some say you can not avoid it. I will play with the settings. I have been thinking about purchasing a calibration disc also. Would this help with those settings or mostly colors? Also would you recommend a disc?

Calibration discs will usually go through contrast, brightness and color (either needing a colorimeter or filters). Some will go deeper. Keep in mind it takes some practice to get those settings right (even though you think at first the results are perfect).

Looks at the AVSForum under your TV's model number. There is usually an "official owners" thread for each model. Usually if I hit a problem, someone else already has.

It could be that the panel pixels are slow enough that you can only reduce the motion blur. Unfortunately some panel technology is like that. The other owners would likely know if that is true with your panel.
alk3997 is offline  
post #10 of 11 Old 04-05-2012, 03:34 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Otto Pylot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 7,096
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 229
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdloesch View Post

Alright thanks. Samsung has there clear motion rate, does turning that off and
on change from 240hz to 120hz and so on?

Motion interpolation, especially when playing games, can be a problem because of the artificial frames added to smooth out the motion. Turning it off doesn't completely eliminate that on most tv's because 120Hz and 240Hz are just multiples of 60Hz. A 120Hz set shows each 60Hz frame twice to "mimic" 120fps. Some sets just implement that better than others.
Otto Pylot is offline  
post #11 of 11 Old 04-05-2012, 03:47 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Otto Pylot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 7,096
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 229
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdloesch View Post

Different opinions when I google that. Some people say it can be reduced, some say you can not avoid it. I will play with the settings. I have been thinking about purchasing a calibration disc also. Would this help with those settings or mostly colors? Also would you recommend a disc?

A calibration disk will help you to properly set the basics (brightness, contrast, sharpness, aspect) and is definitely recommended. It won't calibrate your set because you need meters and software for that but it will certainly improve your viewing experience. Use of a bias light is also a good idea. There are lots of disks available, WoW, DVE, Spears and Munsil, etc but a lot of people, myself included, have had good results using the free AVS HD709. There is a learning curve, and depending on what setting options are available to you on your set, you should get very good results.
Otto Pylot is offline  
Reply HDMI Q&A - The One Connector World

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off