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post #61 of 90 Old 11-03-2006, 09:59 AM - Thread Starter
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What set?

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Yes the firewire equipped hard disc record (which is what were discussing in this thread). The unit (Toshiba or Indigita) has no other output other then the firewire. What your saying makes no sense. Unless your in the wrong thread....perhaps.
These particular units don't really need anything other than FireWire/iLink ports to transport both audio and video to and from FireWire/iLink-equipped displays. And since FireWire is capable of carrying 5.1 surround sound, one need only use the display's digital audio output to obtain multichannel sound (through a connection to a surround sound receiver). Both my Toshiba and Samsung DLP's work that way, but you may want to check your display's manual to make sure that capability is supported. :)
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These particular units don't really need anything other than FireWire/iLink ports to transport both audio and video to and from FireWire/iLink-equipped displays. And since FireWire is capable of carrying 5.1 surround sound, one need only use the display's digital audio output to obtain multichannel sound (through a connection to a surround sound receiver). Both my Toshiba and Samsung DLP's work that way, but you may want to check your display's manual to make sure that capability is supported. :)
Which Samsung DLP are you using with your Symbio? I have a HL-R5067w with cable card and was considering buying a Symbio (or an RCA DVR2160) for timed/scheduled recordings of HD and scrambled digital programs through the firewire port (D-Net). However, I had heard that Samsung's version of TV Guide Online would not permit it. --John
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It works with a RCA 2160.................

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Vividlogic has FW software that can be installed on a WinXP PC or notebook. According to Vividlogic, this software turns your PC/notebook into a DVR. You can both record and play via the Mitsu FW connection. You may also connect your Cable box dvr to this PC. My new Mitsu TV (62628) had a $100 coupon (included with the TV manual) for this software. It brings the price down to $99. They allow a 30 day trial download. I just got my TV and have not had time to try this software yet. When I try I will report here.

I have not been able to make this work with my TV i get a looping error of Vl firebus then under that it says "bus reset storm, bad devices in the network or device connected in loop."

i have tried different ports on the TV and on the computer still can not get it to work right.

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It works with a RCA 2160.................
VideoBruce, It does?! That would be great. What type of Samsung do you have, and how do you get it to work with TVGOS? Thanks. --John
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TV stays off on mine. I do have a question about the 2160. I just got it last night and when I recorded two shows as a trial, the picture has long pixelated "tears" and jitters, and the audio drops out.

Mitsubishi 57831, OTA HD.

The Mitsubishi DVHS works just fine.

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TV stays off on mine. I do have a question about the 2160. I just got it last night and when I recorded two shows as a trial, the picture has long pixelated "tears" and jitters, and the audio drops out.

Mitsubishi 57831, OTA HD.

The Mitsubishi DVHS works just fine.

Mine (Toshiba Symbio) does the exact same thing on my 57831. I thought it was the cable, but after buying a new (and better) one, it's still there.
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Anyone want a 2016 cheap? It is brand new only a few hours on it now.

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jjost; this years 'S' '88' series.

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jjost; this years 'S' '88' series.
VideoBruce, thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I have last year's R series (a Samsung HL-R5067W). Severals post imply that this series' version of TVGOS won't recognize the DVR2160, and so scheduled recordings aren't possible. I still haven't found anyone with the Rxx67 series who has gotten either the HD2000u, DVR2160 or Symbio to work. --Regards, John
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That set doesn't have 1394 ports, does it??

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That set doesn't have 1394 ports, does it??
Videobruce, actually it does one D-Net IEEE 1394 port. --Regards, John
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Ok, but no TV Guide OS? (Too many models, to many numbers)

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Ok, but no TV Guide OS? (Too many models, to many numbers)
Videobruce, yes the HL-R5067w does have TV Guide On Screen, though I don't know the firmware version. --Regards, John
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Again, too many model numbers to keep track of. Even if one just kept track of one manufactures model numbers. :(

Now to answer your question, You should have a separate TV Guide booklet included with the set (unlike that other manufactures DVR that had nothing) that does a decent job of explaining who it works. Just remember those AV-HDDs' are 'dumb' devices, they need something to control it (either you or the TV Guide OS).

Actually, if you have two units you should be able to edit a already recorded program (say commercials or just save certain portions as in a concert) to the other drive.

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Again, too many model numbers to keep track of. Even if one just kept track of one manufactures model numbers. :(

Now to answer your question, You should have a separate TV Guide booklet included with the set (unlike that other manufactures DVR that had nothing) that does a decent job of explaining who it works. Just remember those AV-HDDs' are 'dumb' devices, they need something to control it (either you or the TV Guide OS).

Actually, if you have two units you should be able to edit a already recorded program (say commercials or just save certain portions as in a concert) to the other drive.
videobruce, I do have the TV Guide booklet, but there is no mention of recording to a firewire device. Recording is described only in terms of recording to a VCR. Do you know what version of TVGOS firmware that you have? Thanks. --John
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The documentation of TVGOS and 1394 devices is nothing short of terrible.
Probably courtesy of the NCTA as they would rather have you rent their box ($$$). :mad:

If the TV reconizes the AV-HDD device, then that should migrate over to the TV Guide menu when you select 'record' for a program. It will be in the recording device selection on the left panel (forgot what it is called exactly).

Note, these 1394 devices will only record ATSC/QAM channels, NO analog!

Actually, even though my last post was generic to any set with 1394, this thread was suppose to be for Mits sets. Don't want to get the Mits boys mad.............

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The documentation of TVGOS and 1394 devices is nothing short of terrible.
Probably courtesy of the NCTA as they would rather have you rent their box ($$$). :mad:

If the TV reconizes the AV-HDD device, then that should migrate over to the TV Guide menu when you select 'record' for a program. It will be in the recording device selection on the left panel (forgot what it is called exactly).

Note, these 1394 devices will only record ATSC/QAM channels, NO analog!

Actually, even though my last post was generic to any set with 1394, this thread was suppose to be for Mits sets. Don't want to get the Mits boys mad.............
videobruce, thank you for your help. I agree that the TVGOS documentation is atrocious. I'm just trying to figure out which of the Mits HD2000u and the RCA DVR2160 works with my Samsung HL-R5067w. I'm mainly interested in being able to schedule recordings, but I have read conflicting posts as to whether the version of TVGOS on my Samsung model (or the Rxx67 series in general) would permit this with either product. Unfortunately, I do not have the financial wherewithal to just buy one from eBay and try it out. So, I've been looking for someone who has the same model series and who has gotten one of these to work. Again, thanks for your help. --John
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Try here;
http://www.vgi.com/support/
and here;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=537675

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Videobruce, I had already checked both links and couldn't find a definite answer, but thanks for the suggestion. --John
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Videobruce, I had already checked both links and couldn't find a definite answer, but thanks for the suggestion. --John
I know this is a Mits thread and I have a Mits, but have you tried calling 1-800-726-7864 (Samsung)
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I have talked with 2nd level Samsung support and he (talked to the same guy both times) hasn't tested AV-HDD devices with those sets. They are products that Samsung doesn't sell. I had a similar experiance with Mits and they sell a AV-HDD.

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I have talked with 2nd level Samsung support and he (talked to the same guy both times) hasn't tested AV-HDD devices with those sets. They are products that Samsung doesn't sell. I had a similar experiance with Mits and they sell a AV-HDD.
That number is what's listed on the TV Guide On Screen website for Samsung support for TVGOS
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Has anyone been able to send info ( HD CONTENT ) to this drive from windows xp?

I would just like to view HD STuff on my WD-Y57

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What's a "WD-Y57"?? Is that a step up from a WD-40? :D

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Samsung 5088 (any xx88 or the 5679):
I finally got around to actually trying to record something on my two 2160s' but to my dismay (putting it mildly), while it appeared to record something, when I played it back there was nothing. There were three different programs, on two different channels (through cable) all in the clear (network) and with an entry showing in the play list and it showed occupying space on the HDD, the screen was blank with no audio.

I took the AV-HDD to my other set (HP/Sharp LCD flat panel) where it was used originally and tried to play back those programs and still nothing. I then made some test recordings on a couple of channels and they played back ok (as before).

Then I reconnected that deck back to the Sammy and those recordings that were made on the HP played back ok. I tried to make another recording (manually) from the Samsung and nothing.

Mind you, these playback entries do show and there is a size and time associated with them. Also, these are just network programs that show as "copy free". I have unplugged the set for 15 minutes and tried again, but still nothing.

Any ideas??

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What's a "WD-Y57"?? Is that a step up from a WD-40? :D

The WD-Y57 Is Circuit City 732 model Mits DLP.

I have my hard drive formated in NTFS do I need to reformat in FAT 32 to make my comp see the Scenium 2080 AVHDD drive?

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That's their fictious model number. :mad: Is this it??;
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/j/i/183...s.html?cid=387

Are you talking about removing the HDD from the RCA and installing it in your computer?

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