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If you could mention the title, what country it was bought in, what the problem is and what firmware/driver your LG BH200 is running, it would be handy. Thanks in advance.

A Disc is not considered an LG BH200 Problem Disc, until it's been confirmed by more than one user. The Reported by only one user lists are purely for information.

Problem Discs:

Firmware BH02080620A - 2008-06-20:
Unless it says otherwise, titles have not been tested with other firmware!

* Reported by only one user:

1. 21, USA BD - The disc works fine (including the film) except for the "Blackjack" game, the game tries to load but then just returns to the main menu. See here.
2. Babysitters (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again, see here. The Blu-ray Disc works fine, see here.
3. The Brave One, USA BD - The disc spins for about 3 minutes, it then ejects and displays a "disc error" message. See here. The UK HD-DVD works fine, see here.
4. Bridge to Terabithia, French HD-DVD - The menu only half appears making navigation impossible and because of this the movie cannot be played. See
here.
5. Debbie Does Dallas Again (Adult), USA HD-DVD - The pop-up menu cannot be disabled. See here and here.
6.
Die Fledermaus, UK/USA HD-DVD - The menu loops and navigation is impossible, see here.
7. Les Gendarmes de Saint-Tropez, French HD-DVD - Discs 1-3: No menu appears & the playtime advances irregularly, the movies won't play. The Disc Four menu appears but doesn't work. See here.
8. Intoxicated (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
9. Island Fever 4 (Adult), USA HD-DVD - The Disc cannot be read and an is ejected with a Disc Error, see
here.
10. Jesse's Juice (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop, menu appears but pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See
here.
11. Pan's Labyrinth, UK HD-DVD - The Menu appears but cannot be navigated and no options can be started. See here. It's not known if the UK Blu-ray Disc exhibits the same problems. Working with January Firmware, see here. A workaround has been found for other firmware, see here.
12. Picture This from Mack Dawg Productions, USA HD-DVD Combo - The menu doesn't load (meaning extras cannot be accessed), the pop-up menu causes it to freeze, the main feature plays fine but if you fast forward it freezes, you cannot then eject the disc and have to put the LG BH200 into standby to fix this. See here.
13. Robbie Williams: Live at the Albert, UK HD-DVD - The menu loads but gets stuck in an opening loop preventing the Main Feature or Extras from being accessible. See here.
14. Robin Hood (2006), UK HD-DVD - The Menu loads but is very difficult to navigate, meaning no content can be accessed. See here. Working with January Firmware, see here. A workaround has been found for other firmware, see here and here.
15. Teagan: Sexual Freak 2 (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
16. Terminator 2: Judgement Day, German UE HD-DVD - The movie plays fine but the Interactive Web features don't work. See
here.
17. Underworld: Evolution, German HD-DVD - It is not possible to disable the Spanish subtitles, see here.
18. UFO: Showtime, UK HD-DVD - The copyright text appears but then just a black screen, the menu will appear if the menu button is pressed but no options work. The disc then gets locked in player and requires a reboot. See
here.

19. La Vie En Rose (La Môme), French HD-DVD - Original Pressings: The BH200 tries to read it for about a minute then the Player shuts down, see here.
Remastered Pressings: The BH200 now reads it fine, however menu navigation is still impossible meaning you cannot select anything except Play (Audio and Subtitles can be changed using the remote control), see
here and here. There is also a Blu-ray Disc, it's not known if this works.

* Reported by more than one user:

1. Clerks 2, USA HD-DVD - The disc loads and the menu graphic appears but no menu. See here and here.
2. Hotel Babylon: Series 1, UK HD-DVD - The Menu loads but is very difficult to navigate, meaning no content can be accessed. See
here. Working with January Firmware, see here. A workaround has been found for other firmware, see here and here.

3. Kill Bill Volumes 1 & 2, USA BDs - The menu will not load when the BH200 is set to
1080P24 (Film Mode On), in all other display modes it is fine. Some have reported waiting and pressing the Menu button a few times works and others have reported clearing the BD Flash memory also fixes this. See here, here and here.
4. Madagascar, USA BD: "Loading" appears, the screen then goes black. The menu does not appear. See here and here. One user has reported it works fine, here.
5. Nine Inch Nails: Beside You In Time, USA HD-DVD - The TrueHD 5.1 outputs as 2 channel, see here, here and here.
6. Planet Earth: Complete Series, UK HD-DVD - All discs show the menu background but no options and navigation is impossible. See here and here. All other Planet Earth Blu-ray or HD-DVD Discs seem fine. The issue only affects the UK HD-DVD and the March, April or June Firmware (November and January firmware is fine). See here, here and here.
7. Shooter, USA HD-DVD - The menu loads but navigation is impossible and pressing Play causes the time to read 00000 but it doesn't advance past this, see here and
here. Two users have reported it works fine, see here and here. Working with January Firmware, see here.
8. Wyatt Earp, USA HD-DVD - Extras don't work, an error occurs and the disc is ejected. See here and here. It's unknown if the Blu-ray disc exhibits the same problems.

Firmware BH02080402F - 2008-04-02:
Unless it says otherwise, titles have not been tested with other firmware!

* Reported by only one user:

1. Bridge to Terabithia, French HD-DVD - The menu only half appears making navigation impossible and because of this the movie cannot be played. See here.
2. Cloverfield, USA BD: The movie plays fine but the Easter egg "Military Cast" has jerky video. See
here.
3. Enemy at the Gates (aka Stalingrad in France), French HD-DVD - The HD/BD lights flash trying to see which one it is, it's then spat out after 2 minutes, see
here, here and here. It seems there was a Faulty Batch and a replacement disc should fix it, see here.
4. Fearless, UK HD-DVD - The menu loads fine and works but you cannot see the text so it's hard to navigate. However the Scenes, Languages and Bonus menus don't work. You can change subtitles using the remote. See
here and here.
5. Die Fledermaus, UK/USA HD-DVD - The menu loops and navigation is impossible, see here.
6. Galapagos, USA BD - The disc spins for about 3 minutes, it then ejects and displays a "disc error" message. See here. The USA HD-DVD works fine, see here.
7. Les Gendarmes de Saint-Tropez, French HD-DVD - Discs 1-3: No menu appears & the playtime advances irregularly, the movies won't play. The Disc Four menu appears but doesn't work. See
here.
8.
Nine Inch Nails: Beside You In Time, USA HD-DVD - The TrueHD 5.1 outputs as 2 channel, see here.
9. Intoxicated (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
10. Jesse's Juice (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop, menu appears but pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
11. Katyn, Polish HD-DVD - While the trying to determine if it's a HD-DVD/BD/DVD, the disc is spat out saying "Check Disc" on the TV and "Disc Error" on the Players display. See
here. This maybe a faulty disc as other (Non-LG BH200) Players also have problems with this disc, see here.
12. Pan's Labyrinth, UK HD-DVD - The Menu appears but cannot be navigated and no options can be started. See
here. It's not known if the UK Blu-ray Disc exhibits the same problems. Working with January Firmware, see here.
13. Picture This from Mack Dawg Productions, USA HD-DVD Combo - The menu doesn't load (meaning extras cannot be accessed), the pop-up menu causes it to freeze, the main feature plays fine but if you fast forward it freezes, you cannot then eject the disc and have to put the LG BH200 into standby to fix this. See
here.
14. Robin Hood (2006), UK HD-DVD - The Menu loads but is very difficult to navigate, meaning no content can be accessed. See
here. Working with January Firmware, see here. A workaround has been found for other firmware, see here and here.
15. Shooter, USA HD-DVD - The menu loads but navigation is impossible and pressing Play causes the time to read 00000 but it doesn't advance past this, see here. Working with January Firmware, see here.
16. Superman Returns, USA Non-Combo HD-DVD - The movie plays fine but when trying to access the Special Features sub-menu a "Disc Error" occurs. See here and here. Working with June Firmware, see here.
17. Teagan: Sexual Freak 2 (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
18. Teagan's Juice (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
19. Terminator 2: Judgement Day, German UE HD-DVD - The movie plays fine but the Interactive Web features don't work. See here.
20. La Tigre e la Neve, Italian HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and after a minute of trying the disc, it is rejected. See here.
21. UFO: Showtime, UK HD-DVD - The copyright text appears but then just a black screen, the menu will appear if the menu button is pressed but no options work. The disc then gets locked in player and requires a reboot. See here.
22. La Vie En Rose (La Môme), French HD-DVD - Original Pressings: The BH200 tries to read it for about a minute then the Player shuts down, see
here.
Remastered Pressings: The BH200 now reads it fine, however menu navigation is still impossible meaning you cannot select anything except Play (Audio and Subtitles can be changed using the remote control), see here, here, here and here.
There is also a Blu-ray Disc, it's not known if this works.

* Reported by more than one user:

1. Babysitters (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again.See here, here and here. The Blu-ray Disc works fine, see here.
2. The Brave One, USA BD - The disc spins for about 3 minutes, it then ejects and displays a "disc error" message. See here and here.
3. Clerks 2, USA HD-DVD - The disc loads and the menu graphic appears but no menu. See here and here. Two users have reported it works fine, see here and here.
4. Hotel Babylon: Series 1, UK HD-DVD - The Menu loads but is very difficult to navigate, meaning no content can be accessed. See
here and here. Working with January Firmware, see here. A workaround has been found for other firmware, see here and here.
5. Planet Earth: Complete Series, UK HD-DVD - All discs show the menu background but no options and navigation is impossible. See here, here and here.Working with January Firmware, see here and also working with the USA HD-DVD and April firmware, see here. The UK Blu-Ray Disc also works fine, see here
.

Firmware BH02080314B - 2008-03-14:
Unless it says otherwise, titles have not been tested with other firmware!


* Reported by only one user:

1. 30 Days of Night, German BD - The Concorede logo (disc distributor) appears, the screen then goes black and nothing happens. Working with April Firmware, see here.
2. Afro Samurai, Japanese HD-DVD - 00:00:00 is displayed in the top right throughout, see here.
3. Babysitters (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See
here. The Blu-ray Disc works fine, see here.
4. Clerks 2, USA HD-DVD - The disc loads and the menu graphic appears but no menu. See here. One user has reported it works fine, see here.
5. Death Sentence (2007), German BD - The Concorde logo (disc distributor) appears, the screen then goes black and nothing happens. Working with April Firmware, see here.
6. Dragon Tiger Gate, Hong Kong BD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear. See here.Working with April Firmware, see here.
7. First Blood (aka Rambo 1), Studio Canal HD-DVD - The pop-up menu (top left) continues to display during playback and cannot be removed. See here. FIXED see below!
8. Interactive Sex with Bree Olsen, USA HD-DVD - Multiple viewing angles flash/flicker, see here.Working with April Firmware, see here.
9. King Kong (1976), Studio Canal HD-DVD - The pop-up menu (top left) continues to display during playback and cannot be removed. See here. Working see below!
10. The Pianist, Studio Canal HD-DVD - The pop-up menu (top left) continues to display during playback and cannot be removed. See here. Working see below!
11. Rambo 2: First Blood, Studio Canal HD-DVD - The pop-up menu (top left) continues to display during playback and cannot be removed. See
here. Working see below!
12. Rambo 3, Studio Canal HD-DVD - The pop-up menu (top left) continues to display during playback and cannot be removed. See here. Working see below!
13. Reservoir Dogs, Dutch HD-DVD - Either from DTS-HD MA or DD5.1 the audio is choppy and goes out of sync in places. See
here and here.Working with April Firmware, see here.
14. Teagan's (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
15. Total Recall, Studio Canal HD-DVD - The pop-up menu (top left) continues to display during playback and cannot be removed. See here. Working see below!
16. The Triplets of Belleville, French HD-DVD - Green line issue on the right hand side of the screen, see here.
17. Tristan & Isolde, Dutch HD-DVD - Menu loads but you're unable to select anything (including the Subtitle menu) but can use the Remote to disable subtitles, see here.
18. La Vie En Rose (La Môme), French HD-DVD - Original Pressings: The BH200 tries to read it for about a minute then the Player shuts down, see here.
Remastered Pressings:
Untested but very likely to be the same results as the April firmware
. There is also a Blu-ray Disc, it's not known if this works.

* Reported by more than one user:

1. Enemy at the Gates (aka Stalingrad in France), French HD-DVD - The HD/BD lights flash trying to see which one it is, it's then spat out after 2 minutes, see here, here and here. It seems there was a Faulty Batch and a replacement disc should fix it, see here.
2. Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Studio Canal HD-DVD - The pop-up menu (top left) continues to display during playback and cannot be removed. See here and here. Working see below!

Studio Canal HD-DVDs: FIXED with Firmware versions BH02080402F (April) and BH02080124M (January). See here, here and here
.

Firmware BH02080124M - 2008-01-24:
Unless it says otherwise, titles have not been tested with other firmware!

* Reported by only one user:

1. Debbie Does Dallas Again (Adult), USA HD-DVD - The pop-up menu cannot be disable, see here.
2. Die Fledermaus, German HD-DVD - The menu loops and navigation is impossible, see here.
3. Intoxicated (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
4. Jesse's Juice (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop, menu appears but pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See
here.
5. Picture This from Mack Dawg Productions, USA HD-DVD Combo - The menu doesn't load (meaning extras cannot be accessed), the pop-up menu causes it to freeze, the main feature plays fine but if you fast forward it freezes, you cannot then eject the disc and have to put the LG BH200 into standby to fix this. See here.
6. Robbie Williams: Live at the Albert, UK HD-DVD - The menu loads but gets stuck in an opening loop preventing the Main Feature or Extras from being accessible. See here.
7. Teagan: Sexual Freak 2 (Adult), USA HD-DVD - Playback gets stuck in opening loop and menu won't appear, pressing Skip starts the loop over again. See here.
8. Top Gun, Swiss/German HD-DVD - The BH200 does not stop loading it and shows a black screen, see here. Working with March Firmware, here.
9. La Vie En Rose (La Môme), French HD-DVD - Original & Remastered Pressings: The BH200 tries to read it for about a minute then the Player shuts down, see here and here. There is also a Blu-ray Disc, it's not known if this works.

* Reported by more than one user:

None yet!


Firmware BH02071119P - 2007-11-19
Unless it says otherwise, titles have not been tested with other firmware!

* Reported by only one user:

1. La Vie En Rose (La Môme), French HD-DVD - Original Pressings: The BH200 tries to read it for about a minute then the Player shuts down, see here. Remastered Pressings: Untested. There is also a Blu-ray Disc, it's not known if this works.

* Reported by more than one user:

None yet!
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With the likelihood Samsung will probably never fix the BD-UP5000 I am now looking to the LG BH200 as my first HD Player.

Just what evidence do you possess that says this is likely? And what "fix" are you referring to?

EDIT: Okay, I see the "evidence" on which you're relying. Samsung should expect an enhanced lawsuit if what you're insinuating comes to pass.
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Just what evidence do you possess that says this is likely? And what "fix" are you referring to?

EDIT: Okay, I see the "evidence" on which you're relying. Samsung should expect an enhanced lawsuit if what you're insinuating comes to pass.

???? I still cant finad any evidence that Samsung wont fix the issues. I really hope this isnt based off the fact that they canceled the 5500. They canceled the 2500 and yet they still support the 1400 ect. IMO its jsut a bad call to say that since they canceled the 5500 they wont support a player that they HAVE released. Samsung has publicy stated that they think that the 5K is the player to own for those HD DVD only owners to have to make the transition to Blu-ray.


ok back on topic you might want to look through the L200 thread as owners have kept most everything in that thread.
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Can we please stick to topic and post elsewhere. It's why I deleted my post in response to Vinnie.

Thanks but I think we should keep this thread to BH200 "Problem discs", which oddly I guess there aren't any, right?

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ok back on topic you might want to look through the L200 thread as owners have kept most everything in that thread.

Thanks. It would be better to have a dedicated thread (like the Samsung one) though.

Are there any "particular" problem discs? Thanks again.
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Thanks. It would be better to have a dedicated thread (like the Samsung one) though.

Are there any "particular" problem discs? Thanks again.

Hey, there - just thought I'd drop you a quick note. I too am considering a BH200 to replace my Toshiba HD-A3 and to serve as my primary Blu-ray player. I've been reading and posting in several of the same threads I've seen your posts in.

After two months or so of research, I can honestly say I still haven't come across any reports of disks that the LG has consistent issues with. There were a few of the Profile 1.1 (PiP) Blu-rays that seemed to give it a little trouble -- maybe 3:10 to Yuma (???). But the most recent firmware update seems to have fixed that. And, it seems to handle most all HD DVDs pretty much without any flaws.

The three issues, by far, that I see mentioned most often are:
1. HD audio support (should be addressed in the next firmware)
2. audio and/or video dropout (being looked into by LG)
3. green line overscan issue (haven't heard anything from LG on this)
... and that's really about it. Since the LG tech guy posted his infamous comments in the official owner's thread I really am just counting the days until I buy the thing. I swore I wouldn't do so until they released the next firmware update fixing the HD audio issues, but at this point I'm pretty much convinced that they will do so and am tired of waiting.

Hope this helps!

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After two months or so of research, I can honestly say I still haven't come across any reports of disks that the LG has consistent issues with.

This is fantastic, thanks for the posting. I was wondering why no one was posting. There is a February review over at "Sound and Vision" which says they had no problem discs too but I prefer to hear from end-users.

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The three issues, by far, that I see mentioned most often are:
1. HD audio support (should be addressed in the next firmware)

I hope LG are also working out what to do with TrueHD when outputted out of Optical/Coaxial. If I buy an LG BH200 (which is looking likely) for the first few months I won't be able to take advantage of TrueHD at Full Resolution so will need someway to hear Discrete 5.1 from it.

I'm not bothered if LG make the BH200 be able to pick up the Hidden DD5.1 track of convert TrueHD to DD5.1 but as long as I don't have to get 2 Channel unless I use the HDMI output (which my current Amp does not have).

Long term I will buy an Amp though so it doesn't worry me "too" much.

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2. audio and/or video dropout (being looked into by LG).

I'm not sure how to take this one. I'm sure it's a problem but then I think there is not a Player on the market that gets 100% perfect reports. My LCD TV supposedly has some kind of picture problem yet I've not once noticed it. I cannot even remember what the problem is supposed to be.

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3. green line overscan issue (haven't heard anything from LG on this).

Right now this doesn't affect me as I don't have a 1080p TV but you'd think LG would be able to fix this. It seem 100% of users have it so it must be easy to replicate in labs and easy to fix too.

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Since the LG tech guy posted his infamous comments in the official owner's thread I really am just counting the days until I buy the thing. I swore I wouldn't do so until they released the next firmware update fixing the HD audio issues.

Me too. I've wait since January 2007 (when the BH100 was released) to buy my first HD Player and actually be able to playback my BD/HD-DVDs. I've waited this long I can definitely wait until May.

I always said I only want a Combo Player so have patiently waited until a Player comes that once I buy one I'll be able to play all movies and will last me years. I am also currently skint too and whatever you buy they're not cheap (except for HD-DVD Players which never interested me).

Right now what is ultimately stopping me buying a LG BH200 is the things the Infamous Firmware promises + TrueHD 2 Channel only. Once those are fixed I'll buy it.

Thanks again Casey, much appreciated.
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Just bought this player and put in my import HD DVD copy of La Môme (La Vie En Rose). It tries to read it for a minute or so, then the player shuts down. This disc works perfectly on my A35.

I've tried a few other titles such as Transformers, Smokin Aces, and Superman Returns and they all play fine on the LG (apart from choppy menus compared to my A35).
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That's a pity. It's currently Exclusive to France on HD Disc, it even has English subs "for the film".
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Yes, I found it pretty cool that you could resize and move the subtitles using the ABCD buttons.
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So far, the player goes haywire with the blu-ray movie Sunshine. The only disc I've gotten video or audio dropouts on is my HD DVD copy of Digital Video Essentials.
I've played a couple of other blu-ray movies, including a new release- 30 Days of Night, with no issues at all. Also I've played maybe 4 HD DVD's with no issues.
Now, I'm just using the digital optical output for audio, hooked to my basic Yamaha reciever.
I called LG of Canada in regards to a firmware upgrade. I was told that I had to take the unit in to an LG Service Center for the upgrade to be done! I was amazed at this, as both Toshiba and Sony will mail you an upgrade cd...
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Thanks guys. I've updated the post to reflect the problem discs.

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So far, the player goes haywire with the blu-ray movie Sunshine.

Is that when you select DTS-HD instead of DD5.1? Like the Samsung.

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I called LG of Canada in regards to a firmware upgrade. I was told that I had to take the unit in to an LG Service Center for the upgrade to be done! I was amazed at this, as both Toshiba and Sony will mail you an upgrade cd...

That is annoying, weird too.
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"Is that when you select DTS-HD instead of DD5.1? Like the Samsung."

It seemed to work a couple of times, but often I couldn't even get the disc to play. I've got a PS3 so I'm never going to be stuck, but it will be nice when the LG can play everything!
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Was it only when you selected DTS-HD or didn't it matter? Thanks.
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European Model (Firmware BH02080124M - 24/01/08):

* Transformers Swiss HD-DVD (probably all HD-DVDs): The BH200 refuses to load it.

Sorry, I can't confirm that. My German/Swiss disc of Transformers works fine on my European BH200.

But, like almost every new disc with net enabled features, it takes some time to boot up. I have to look about 4 minutes at this annoying loading bar And it really looks like he will never start to play the disc.
Already tried to pull out the ethernet-cable before starting the disc ? Perhaps this helps.

But my HD-DVD of Top Gun (Publisher: Paramount Germany) won't play. Does not stop booting and showing me a black screen.

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But, this is the only disc from my about 50 HD-DVD's and 50 Blu's - I tried them all.
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Sorry, I can't confirm that. My German/Swiss disc of Transformers works fine on my European BH200.

LOL Oops

It was your post I was thinking of. I meant Top Gun NOT Transformers.

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I have to look about 4 minutes at this annoying loading bar

WOW! 4 Minutes is extreme. Is that normal for HD Players?

How long with the Ethernet connection disabled or doesn't it make any difference?

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But my HD-DVD of Top Gun (Publisher: Paramount Germany) won't play. Does not stop booting and showing me a black screen.

Thanks. I'll update the post.

Have you tried getting a replacement?
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Bradavon, slightly OT but in the case of the Samsung, both DTS and DD give it hiccups on my end with the latest firmware.
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Thanks Vinnie. That's a pity. I heard DD5.1 is fine, but I guess that's only some (lucky) members.
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LOL Oops

It was your post I was thinking of. I meant Top Gun NOT Transformers.


WOW! 4 Minutes is extreme. Is that normal for HD Players?

How long with the Ethernet connection disabled or doesn't it make any difference?


Thanks. I'll update the post.

Have you tried getting a replacement?

I think the loading time is normal, when playing a disc with web-enabled features. My Xbox306 Add-on had also extremely long loading times with this discs.

With disabled Ethernet connection the disc boots normal (faster).

I tried Top Gun with the Xbox Add-on and it worked.

But for me, counting about 100 HD discs and only one not working on the BH200 I think the player is very stable. And so, I hope we don't find many discs he won't play
But perhaps, theres another difference between the "older" US firmware and the "newer" EU firmware. Who knows.
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With disabled Ethernet connection the disc boots normal (faster).

That's interesting. How great are the Web features? They sound rubbish to me. I'd just be inclined to turn the Ethernet port off.

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But for me, counting about 100 HD discs and only one not working on the BH200 I think the player is very stable. And so, I hope we don't find many discs he won't play

Agreed. I don't suppose there is any way you could try Sunshine? It's caused problems in both Samsung and LG Combo Players.

The European BD is only Profile 1.0 and has no PIP features, unlike the USA BD (which came out later) and has PIP/Profile 1.1. I am thinking as it's not the same disc (i.e - a clone) it's probably authored differently.

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But perhaps, theres another difference between the "older" US firmware and the "newer" EU firmware. Who knows.

There could be but we'll never know until someone/some members are able to test the same disc on an American and European player.
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That's interesting. How great are the Web features? They sound rubbish to me. I'd just be inclined to turn the Ethernet port off.

Agreed. I don't suppose there is any way you could try Sunshine? It's caused problems in both Samsung and LG Combo Players.

Dear bradavon

They sound rubbish to me too So, I never looked them. I think I will remove the Ethernet-cable, so I have faster loading time.

But I will come back to this question in one week. Next week I will receive my Terminator 2 Ultimate HD-Edition. There are lots of extra-features on the disc. And many, many, web features. I think with this movie I will try and look everything

Regarding the Blu-ray Sunshine issue, I am no big help. My EU BD just plays fine. No problems. But you already wrote, it must be a different disc/mastering. Because there are no 1.1 features on it. Probably thats the case, the US disc causes problems. Unfortunately the EU disc (publisher Fox) is region locked. So no chance of importing it to play on an US player.

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That Terminator 2 German HD-DVD SE looks out of this world. I'll be getting that too. I'm hoping they release a BD though.

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Regarding the Blu-ray Sunshine issue, I am no big help. My EU BD just plays fine. No problems.

That is helpful thanks. I'll add it to the first post.

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Probably thats the case, the US disc causes problems. Unfortunately the EU disc (publisher Fox) is region locked. So no chance of importing it to play on an US player.

Grrr.

I would frankly happily live without the Profile 1.1 features and just buy the UK BD but like you say it's Region Locked .
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Gone, Baby Gone works fine unless you go to the special features menu. The audio goes out of sync and begins to skip, kind of like Sunshine. Still, this was from Netflix.
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Thanks. Do you mean the movie or an extras audio goes of sync?

Are Netflix known to sell sub-par discs?
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I have North American Model (Firmware BH02071119P)

Nine Inch Nails:Somewhere Beside You in Time.

At about 00:3:08 in (first song) I got a tiny audio video "blip".

Had something similar happen on Training Day as well.
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Hi Mike

Is that an audio "drop out" or something else? I am not sure it's worth mentioning "audio drop outs" as the player has that problem generally speaking. What are users thoughts on this?
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Bradavon:

The drop outs occur during the special features. Although I did just update the player with the latest firmware. I played the hd-dvd planet earth which had quite a fw drop outs; they seem to be gone now.
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And sometimes the discs from netflix can be quite scratched. I haven't had it happen ALOT but popular movies seem to have the issue more.
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Thanks Jonathan.

I didn't realise you meant "drop outs" (I thought you said out of sync?). I'm not sure it's worth mentioning drop outs in the list, as that's a general problem with the player. What are your thoughts whether they should be included?
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After loading up the NEW firmware on the LG, he now plays my German Top Gun HD-DVD without problems

@bradavon
Sorry, but you have to re-correct your first post again

I think they also fixed some compatibility-problems. Perhaps we should all try again our discs that made problems in the past? Hopefully all problems are gone with the new firmware!

Im not sure, but I think the new firmware supports profile 1.1 stuff. So probably Sunshine (US-Version) will now work too.

By the way: Now all my 100 discs run on the LG

Good work LG, well done !!
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After loading up the NEW firmware on the LG, he now plays my German Top Gun HD-DVD without problems

So you installed the American Firmware on your European Player and it installed okay?

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@bradavon
Sorry, but you have to re-correct your first post again

Done, please see the update.

I've PM'ed Dickydoo and Lazerfan asking if they can re-check Sunshine USA RA BD and La Vie En Rose (La Môme) French HD-DVD.

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Perhaps we should all try again our discs that made problems in the past?

Good idea!
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