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I look at this more like the first step in the right direction. It seems like we are stuck with two standards. That means that Universal players are the future.

This LG product seems like it will be inferior to having stand alone players for each format, since it doesn't support all of the HD-DVD features and costs $1200. Since you can get the HD-A2 for $400 and the new gen 2 Samsung Bluray player will probably hit the market selling for below its $799 MSRP, LG's only real advantage is the single box. Hopefully when the LG hits the market it too will quickly drop in price, maybe dulling the price difference somewhat.

My hope is that this move by LG forces its competitors to make Universal players as well. I'd just like my first purchase of 2008 to play HD-DVD, Bluray, DVD, SACD, DVD-A, and CD, and say Denon on the front and weigh 25 pounds. Anybody else want one of those?
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yeah, I want one of those Denon universal players...but in 2007 not 2008! Will have to resist the temptation to be an early adopter. I was in the process of trying to convince myself to splurge on an AX2, now not so sure.
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My hope is that this move by LG forces its competitors to make Universal players as well. I'd just like my first purchase of 2008 to play HD-DVD, Bluray, DVD, SACD, DVD-A, and CD, and say Denon on the front and weigh 25 pounds. Anybody else want one of those?

Whoo yeah, that's what I'd love to see. With a $500 MSRP (or less), of course.

I love my SACD/DVD-A multi-channel audio. And I love the HD video of HD-DVD (or BR, though I only own HD-DVD currently).

For now, my A2 and Oppo 970 will do the trick, with an el-cheapo BR player to fill the title-void sometime in 2007 if I feel the need, unless the combo players are very attractive in price.

The Denon name would be very nice...!

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I look at this more like the first step in the right direction. It seems like we are stuck with two standards. That means that Universal players are the future.

This LG product seems like it will be inferior to having stand alone players for each format, since it doesn't support all of the HD-DVD features and costs $1200. Since you can get the HD-A2 for $400 and the new gen 2 Samsung Bluray player will probably hit the market selling for below its $799 MSRP, LG's only real advantage is the single box. Hopefully when the LG hits the market it too will quickly drop in price, maybe dulling the price difference somewhat.

My hope is that this move by LG forces its competitors to make Universal players as well. I'd just like my first purchase of 2008 to play HD-DVD, Bluray, DVD, SACD, DVD-A, and CD, and say Denon on the front and weigh 25 pounds. Anybody else want one of those?

It appears to support all the features necessary to have the HD DVD logo. Which means all the current iHD capabilities minus something which likely is not now being used on the current software. It also appears to support TrueHD, DD+. So I'm straining to see what's missing. Analogs out. That's a huge plus. 1080p/24,30,1080i/p/60 seems to have an excellent feature list.
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"While the BH100 appeared to play HD DVD movies just fine, popup menus appeared quite generic as the on-screen chapter selection lacked the thumbnail images seen on other HD DVD players."


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"While the BH100 appeared to play HD DVD movies just fine, popup menus appeared quite generic as the on-screen chapter selection lacked the thumbnail images seen on other HD DVD players."

Wow, if that is so then WTF
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It appears to support all the features necessary to have the HD DVD logo. Which means all the current iHD capabilities minus something which likely is not now being used on the current software. It also appears to support TrueHD, DD+. So I'm straining to see what's missing. Analogs out. That's a huge plus. 1080p/24,30,1080i/p/60 seems to have an excellent feature list.

You're right. Maybe I can't get over its appearance (I think it's super ugly). I also want a universal player that has the realta processor or something similar. Does the LG have a good chip like that?
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It appears to support all the features necessary to have the HD DVD logo. Which means all the current iHD capabilities minus something which likely is not now being used on the current software. It also appears to support TrueHD, DD+. So I'm straining to see what's missing. Analogs out. That's a huge plus. 1080p/24,30,1080i/p/60 seems to have an excellent feature list.

I certainly could be wrong, but it doesn't seem to have an Ethernet port. My understanding of HD DVD was they require an Ethernet port to be compliant. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

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I certainly could be wrong, but it doesn't seem to have an Ethernet port. My understanding of HD DVD was they require an Ethernet port to be compliant. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Well as stated it's missing some iHD features which would include what is now being demonstrated (so we've been told) at the press (invitation only) gathering for HD DVD:

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...33&newsLang=en

Secondly as this site notes the iHD is further diluted in this way:

First, inexplicably, LG's designers chose not to accommodate CD playback. Second, the player is more Blu-ray friendly than HD DVD. LG is a member of the Blu-ray camp, and the BH100 is a full-fledged Blu-ray player. HD DVD is kind of an add-on. The player plays HD-DVD, but cannot handle its interactive features. In the show demo, for example, it used an onboard menu instead of the typical on-disc menu, to navigate.

http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/...ull_story.html
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I certainly could be wrong, but it doesn't seem to have an Ethernet port. My understanding of HD DVD was they require an Ethernet port to be compliant. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

If you look at the pics of the back there is an ethernet port, maybe its a modem but it defnatly looks like ethernet to me.
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Wow. I never thought it would really happen.
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If you look at the pics of the back there is an ethernet port, maybe its a modem but it defnatly looks like ethernet to me.

But it is labeled as a Service port:

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But it is labeled as a Service port:


Are firmware updates "service"?


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"While the BH100 appeared to play HD DVD movies just fine, popup menus appeared quite generic as the on-screen chapter selection lacked the thumbnail images seen on other HD DVD players."

Damn, not even "animated" HDi support. Truly disappointing. Along with no cd playback, it's looking very much that this player will not be HD DVD compliant. I'm guessing no TrueHD either.

I also noticed no USB ports, aren't those required on players also?

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Looks like a Blu-ray player where LG contacted Toshiba and said, "Look. We know you got nothing. Do you want some vague support from us or not?" And Toshiba, looked around and nervously said, "Sure. Sure. We appreciate anything you give us. Throw us a bone!"

So far, this looks like a Blu-ray player that adds weak HD DVD support. Not an HD DVD player with Blu-ray. I think anyone who loves HD DVD's going to steer clear of this device, which will make it DOA.

I do hope it supports Dolby TrueHD or it's not going to last long.
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Are firmware updates "service"?

Possibly, but certainly online HD-DVD fetures arent
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