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I've been in contact with product planners and support engineers at LG's US headquarters and their service division.

*I am not an LG employee. We are a dealer and authorized service center. What I am telling everyone here is not to be considered official LG information*

They are aware of the HDMI issue, especially with the Denon receivers (has anyone tested any other brand of receiver?)

They are working on a software fix and will have firmware available to be installed by a service tech. Historically LG has not made firmware available to the general public (only to ASC's.)

I will keep everyone here up to date so long as everyone behaves and refrains from whining about HDMI audio not working and calling LG crap. Last time I checked first gen cutting edge products such as this one have problems. If you don't want to be on the cutting edge don't join the club, and please don't whine when it doesn't work!

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Probably just wishful thinking, but does the BH100 support 1080p 24 fps over HDMI for SD DVD? I was browsing through the online manual and such details are scarce.

Fixed typo: BH200 -> BH100
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Where did you find the manual for the BH200? Isn't that the 2nd gen player? Could you provide a link?

BTW-Any release information on that floating out there?
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Where did you find the manual for the BH200? Isn't that the 2nd gen player? Could you provide a link?

BTW-Any release information on that floating out there?

This post has the details:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9527136

You can get to the link from here:

http://us.lgservice.com/index_b2c.jsp

BTW, the online version doesn't ahve stuff that is in the hardcopy.
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Those links are for the BH100. I've not seen anything for "BH200".
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Jeff -- sorry. Trying to get too much stuff done at home before heading into the office. "BH200" is a typo. There is just the BH100. I'll fix that above.
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Is the 1080p option greyed out on the BH100 menu for anyone else?

I'm outputing over HDMI to a Samsung HL-S6187W.

You would think I would just get a black screen if 1080p/24 wasn't supported by my set.
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Probably just wishful thinking, but does the BH100 support 1080p 24 fps over HDMI for SD DVD? I was browsing through the online manual and such details are scarce.

Fixed typo: BH200 -> BH100

It only supports SD-DVD upconversion to 1080i. See also page 16 of the online manual. It says:

"DVD playback: 1080p, 720p, 480p are available."
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Is the 1080p option greyed out on the BH100 menu for anyone else?

I'm outputing over HDMI to a Samsung HL-S6187W.

You would think I would just get a black screen if 1080p/24 wasn't supported by my set.

It is greyed out on the BH100 menu for me as well on my Sony SXRD 50A2000 which does not support 1080p/24 (only 1080p/60). It is not greyed out on my Panasonic AX100 which does support 1080p/24.

What you are seeing is expected behavior if you have a set that does only 1080p/60.
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The 1080p option is greyed out on my display in the BH100 menu. Is this because my Samsung HL-S6187W does not support 1080/24p?

Yes.
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It is greyed out on the BH100 menu for me as well on my Sony SXRD 50A2000 which does not support 1080p/24 (only 1080p/60). It is not greyed out on my Panasonic AX100 which does support 1080p/24.

What you are seeing is expected behavior if you have a set that does only 1080p/60.

Thanks for the clarification.

I'm still wondering if LG will support 1080p/60 with a future firmware update?

Is this possible?
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Do you have a better picture? I can't quite make out the numbers on the Broadcom chips. It looks like a BCM7038 (or BCM7438 ?), and two BCM7412's.

Those are one BCM7438 and two BCM7412 chips.
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Those are one BCM7438 and two BCM7412 chips.

With two decoders, it should be BD PiP capable.

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With two decoders, it should be BD PiP capable.

Maybe.

There are 128MB DDR SDRAM and another 512MB DDR SDRAM, 512MB Flash Memory and another 4MB Flash, and Xilinx Spartan-3E FPGA. Just look at chips, mainboard seems to be capable of Profile 1.1.

Downside is its HDMI connection is quite problematic. It locked up when I fed HDMI to AVR HDMI connector and got no video and audio. Only success was direct connection to TV.
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Thanks for the clarification.

I'm still wondering if LG will support 1080p/60 with a future firmware update?

Is this possible?

I got this response from LG:

Thank you for your continued correspondence.

We understand your concerns now. This unit has just been released. At
this time, there has been no mention of any firmware updates. We will
forward your request to our technical staff regarding this matter.

For further information or troubleshooting, you may contact us at
800-243-0000 for LG Customer Service assistance. An agent will be glad to
assist you. Thank you again for contacting LG Electronics.


E-mail Administrator
Customer Interactive Center
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Although it sounds like customer service BS, it doesn't sound very promising.


BTW, I had a stutter then audio/video sync problems at the end of Speed (BD) last night. It was a rental disc, so it could have been scratched.

I ejected the disc, put it back in, and navigated to the problem scene.

Everything was fine from there. Hopefully not a player issue.
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The inability to send TrueHD over HDMI/PCM would annoy me. For $1200, the unit sounds rushed.

"But this one goes up to 11"
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No 1080p output? My BH100 is working well with HDMI video to my panasonic 1080p plasma tv and optical audio to my receiver. The BH100 display option list will not let me select 1080p. It will only allow 1080i to be selected. Any thoughts?
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It is greyed out on the BH100 menu for me as well on my Sony SXRD 50A2000 which does not support 1080p/24 (only 1080p/60). It is not greyed out on my Panasonic AX100 which does support 1080p/24.

What you are seeing is expected behavior if you have a set that does only 1080p/60.

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Is it true the iHD isn't functional? I've a couple reviews that say just that.

I wonder if the issues with BD-J lead LG to decided to make playback equal when playing either format. If one format doesn't have interactive functions, then neither can.

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Is it true the iHD isn't functional? I've a couple reviews that say just that.

I wonder if the issues with BD-J lead LG to decided to make playback equal when playing either format. If one format doesn't have interactive functions, then neither can.

LG player doesn't handle iHD at all. For example, when you play a Universal HD DVD title, what you'll see is Universal's HD DVD logo piece, fake FBI warning slate, fake Rating slate (those two are player embedded one, not even from the disc) and then feature presentation. No top menu, no IME, no U-Control, no popup menu except player embedded menu to access another title, chapter, audio and subtitle.

On the other hand, BD-J works with no problem on this player. It plays LXG and all its functions just work fine.
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are there any blu ray or hd-dvd players that output 1080p/60 (that most plasma tv's can input). if not what good is having a 1080p tv?
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are there any blu ray or hd-dvd players that output 1080p/60 (that most plasma tv's can input). if not what good is having a 1080p tv?

This LG Player is the ONLY player that does not
do 1080p/60.

The Toshiba HD DVD does 1080p/60 and all the
Blu-Ray Players from Pioneer and Sony work fine.
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anyone know of a good online retailer that carries this? Preferably at a discounted rate
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drhankz is the first person to give me a clear cut answer. what is the logic of selling a 1080p/24 dvd player that can' t have the 1080p signal received because almost all the tv's can only input 1080p/64 signals?
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drhankz is the first person to give me a clear cut answer. what is the logic of selling a 1080p/24 dvd player that can' t have the 1080p signal received because almost all the tv's can only input 1080p/64 signals?

1080p/24 is a very desired feature for SOME who have displays
that can handle it - but since only 5% can handle it - it does
seem short sighted of LG to leave out support for 1080p/60!
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I thought I remember reading that this is almost no difference between 1080i/60 and 1080p/60 for most player/display combinations. 1080p/24 is different animal altogether. So, how important is to have 1080p/60 when most people can get the same result with 1080i/60. The absence of 1080p/60 seems more like an LG marketing blunder more than anything.
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I thought I remember reading that this is almost no difference between 1080i/60 and 1080p/60 for most player/display combinations. 1080p/24 is different animal altogether. So, how important is to have 1080p/60 when most people can get the same result with 1080i/60. The absence of 1080p/60 seems more like an LG marketing blunder more than anything.

This was my understanding as well. When the LG player takes the native 1080/24p HD DVD image and outputs it as 1080/60i most displays will properly combine the fields into 1080/60p with no loss of resolution.

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This was my understanding as well. When the LG player takes the native 1080/24p HD DVD image and outputs it as 1080/60i most displays will properly combine the fields into 1080/60p with no loss of resolution.

You are both correct. With a digital display anyway.

1080i and 1080p are the same thing to a digital display.

Now CRT is different but ALL digital displays will take 1080i and display it as 1080P so it makes no difference if you send it 1080i or 1080p.

People are making way to much of this.

Now 1080i or 1080p 24 is way more important... just ask Joe Kane.... We all want our movies to be displayed much smoother on are new HD displays.

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anyone know of a good online retailer that carries this? Preferably at a discounted rate

Yes wondering the same myself

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Maybe.

There are 128MB DDR SDRAM and another 512MB DDR SDRAM, 512MB Flash Memory and another 4MB Flash, and Xilinx Spartan-3E FPGA. Just look at chips, mainboard seems to be capable of Profile 1.1.

Downside is its HDMI connection is quite problematic. It locked up when I fed HDMI to AVR HDMI connector and got no video and audio. Only success was direct connection to TV.

Thats a shame.
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