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post #31 of 55 Old 10-02-2007, 09:14 PM
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When I asked about the lack of 7.1 analog audio outputs I got this quote from a LG rep.

"The BH200 features HDMI 1.3 which can carry up to 7.1 channels of uncompressed audio to the growing number of HDMI 1.3 a/v receivers. The BH200 features Qdeo video processing from Marvell, a superior technology now available on products from Meridian and LG."

Anyone care to guess how good is this Qdeo video processing from Marvell, and how would it compare to the HQV video processing that is offered in the XA2 or the Samsung BD-P5000?

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Crave: the gadget blog posted this update:
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Update: This post has been updated to reflect that LG has confirmed that the BH200 can output DTS-HD Master Audio in bitstream format, that it fully supports Blu-ray profile 1.1 and has only stereo analog outputs.

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I would infer from that info that it will not internally decode DTS-HD MA (not too surprising). The only thing preventing me from being very interested in this player is not knowing whether it can be updated to be Blu-ray 2.0 compliant.

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I wonder if the statement about fully supporting profile 1.1 means that the final compatibility testing has been completed successully; or if this is just a design goal?

I'm also not surprised on the DTS-MA thing; I'm begining to think DTS would prefer off-base decoding just to keep on good terms with receiver manufacturers (since none of them seem to have any issues decoding DTS MA).

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i keep seeing people talking about Bitstream. what's this Bitstream format?
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This post quotes DTS MA

http://reviews.cnet.com/video-player...-32595250.html

actually, that page has exactly the same text as the one i linked. what it says is that the LH200 will send DTS-HD MA over bitstream and that the competing Samsung dual-format player is slated to "support" DTS-HD MA (presumably that means decoding) with a firmware update. it says nothing about the LH200 decoding DTS-HD MA, that i can find. it does say it will decode DTS-HD, but that is NOT the same thing (though confusing, i admit).

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i keep seeing people talking about Bitstream. what's this Bitstream format?

bitstream means that instead of the player internally decoding the audio codec and sending the PCM (raw digital audio) out, it can send the undecoded audio stream to an A/V receiver that will decode the audio.

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According to this website it will be http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...ay_Player/1063
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.... and for those of us with hi-end (a.k.a -overpriced!) processors that are, in theory at least, upgradeable for HDMI, 5.1/7.1 analog outputs allows us to enjoy the better audio quality while waiting patiently for our processor manufacturer of choice to deliver HDMI .....

I'm sorry, but I find that funny My reason being: some people go to great lengths and cost to buy themselves some fantastic pre-amps or receivers, only to end up completely at the mercy of the cheap DAC crammed into a consumer level device!

While most of the cost of "high-end" gear is purely for the name and the fancy case, there are the times when the actual internal "guts" are superior to consumer level gear. Of all the parts other than the power supply, the DACs are typically where you'll find the greatest difference. But when using an analogue input, you're now essentially using that expensive piece of gear for little more than a switch and a volume knob!
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According to this website it will be http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...ay_Player/1063

full profile = profile 2.0?
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BH200 Will be profile 1.1

At least according to this website http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...ay_Player/1063

I have read and re-read the article, and I do not see where it says that the “BH200 will be profile 1.1”. The article does say in general that the profile 1.1 feature set is required for a player released after 10/31, and that no manufacturer has released a profile 1.1 player before the deadline, but when the article speaks specifically about the BH200 it only says that it “will include ‘full profile specifications’ for Blu-ray players”. That does not mean that the player will necessarily be limited to profile 1.1.

If you read the LG press release for the BH200 from Sept. 5 it says that the player will have “the capability to handle networked ‘BD-Live’ interactivity in forthcoming Blu-ray discs”. BD-Live is Blu-ray’s name for Profile 2. Profile 2 includes the Profile 1.1 feature set, but is not limited to it.
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So, given the long delays on the Sammy 5000, is there any reason not to get the LG if you don't need the analog outputs? Given this is LG's 2nd attempt at a dual format player, there may be reason to think they've got their act together on this one...and it's actually for sale!
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So, given the long delays on the Sammy 5000, is there any reason not to get the LG if you don't need the analog outputs? Given this is LG's 2nd attempt at a dual format player, there may be reason to think they've got their act together on this one...and it's actually for sale!

I was waiting for the Samsung but now this is exactly what I'm thinking.
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So, given the long delays on the Sammy 5000, is there any reason not to get the LG if you don't need the analog outputs? Given this is LG's 2nd attempt at a dual format player, there may be reason to think they've got their act together on this one...and it's actually for sale!

The Reon and DTS MA capabilities are what I'm waiting for in the Samsung.
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The Reon and DTS MA capabilities are what I'm waiting for in the Samsung.

Perhaps for some but I have a high end processor already so plan to check our BB tomorrow and see if they have one...

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The Reon and DTS MA capabilities are what I'm waiting for in the Samsung.

Well according to what I read at BB today, and what I read on this web site it can do DTS MA. But the Reon chipset would be nice to have in the Samsung... Just wish they where priced less, I think I would bite..

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9771267-1.html
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Well according to what I read at BB today, and what I read on this web site it can do DTS MA. But the Reon chipset would be nice to have in the Samsung... Just wish they where priced less, I think I would bite..

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9771267-1.html

i don't know what you read at BB, but that website does not say that it can decode DTS-HD Master Audio. it says it can internally decode DTS-HD (like all other HD DVD and Blu-ray players) and can output the DTS-HD Master Audio bitstream.

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Well then, just waiting on the Reon then -- I've got a large SD DVD collection.
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i don't know what you read at BB, but that website does not say that it can decode DTS-HD Master Audio. it says it can internally decode DTS-HD (like all other HD DVD and Blu-ray players) and can output the DTS-HD Master Audio bitstream.

True, I just re-read it again.... Gets a tad confusing... Too many sound formats and not many used.. The question then is can my receiver decode it? I have a new Pioneer Elite 94 on the way...

Plus I am thinking of the Samsung also, has anyone seen the specs on this unit or any pictures?

This helps on clearing up my confusion:

http://hdtvmagazine.com/articles/200...f_dvd_-_au.php
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Interesting reading on that link and thank you for posting it.

I have read many debates about the different HD audio formats and if anyone can actually hear a difference in them. I am looking forward to hopefully trying them all out one day to see if I can hear a difference.....

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Kelpie,
From the Cnet review....

"LG has confirmed that the BH200 can output DTS-HD Master Audio in bitstream format, that it fully supports Blu-ray profile 1.1"


Garman,
YEah the Pioneer can decode DTS-MA and if this thing can pass the DTS MA bitstream you should be good to go, the only people who miss out on the DTS MA are those that want and analog out or those with HDMI 1.2 receivers that can only accept PCM though the HDMI input.

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What discs for both formats did they use to get these times?


POC BD or Knocked Up HD DVD......time it with advanced authored discs from both formats and connect to the internet then get back to us.

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Has it been confirmed that it only does 2 channel Dolby True HD with HD-DVD discs?

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True, I just re-read it again.... Gets a tad confusing... Too many sound formats and not many used.. The question then is can my receiver decode it? I have a new Pioneer Elite 94 on the way...


The Pioneer 94 will decode it, so you're good to go.
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