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post #1 of 26 Old 09-18-2007, 01:17 PM - Thread Starter
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Obviously this is a subjective opinion question about the future of Bluray & HDDVD, but I feel like I have a decision to make:

Since HDDVD/Bluray combo players are now dropping in price and will eventually be quite affordable, and since I really don't play that many Xbox 360 games any longer:

Is now a good time to sell-off my Xbox 360, HDDVD addon player, and small collection (6) HDDVDs and pick up a dual format combo player?

Originally I was thinking of making the switch from a 360 to a PS3, since it seemed that Bluray was clearly winning and I wanted to cut my losses with the 360. Is that still a good idea?

Most of my gaming is on a PC (World of Warcraft), and while 360 games intrigue me and are great when the "boys" are over, I just don't have the time to play them any longer as I'm getting older with more responsibilties, and all my "extra" time is dedicated to playing WOW.

So is this a good time to ditch all my 360 stuff, save my cash for a bit, and pick up a 2nd generation combo player down the road?
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Yes. Get a stand alone HD DVD or BD player. Better in every way.
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You'll still be paying a LOT more for a combo for the foreseeable future than what you'd get from selling off the 360 and HD DVD add-on. Personally I love the add on, have it for my HTPC and couldn't be happier. I stay stick with it for a while longer and enjoy more HD DVD titles. If you want to get a standalone HD DVD player, then sell the XBox and get something like an A20 (great deal on Amazon.com right now) or an A30.

As for who will win, it looks like HD DVD has gained tremendous steam in the last month or so since Paramount and DreamWorks dropped Blu-ray, and the entry price of HD DVD has resulted in a ton of dedicated players (standalone and the HD DVD add-on) being sold since the announcement. As a result, the BDA hasn't been quite as cocky as they've been in the past (and the chairman himself isn't sure that Blu-ray is going to win now, lol). I think the sub $200 HD DVD players will sell extremely well, especially if they also have free HD DVD titles with each purchase as well.

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well i made the move and sold my 360 add on last week. My plan is going with a combo. This BH100 is getting very cheap! What i hated most about the 360 add on is that i cant watch my hd dvds with a hdmi cable. And from the tests i done from component to hdmi theres a clear difference. HDMI is frigin awesome! The picture is so bright and vivide comparde to component.
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My plan is to sell the 360 console, the 6 or so games I own, as well as the HDDVD addon. I should be able to get at least $450 (Cdn) for all that. Then I'll wait for a combo HDDVD/Blu drive to drop to about $600 (Cdn) or so and pick one up.

However, if the format war in the meantime swings significantly in favor of one format, then I'll pick up one of those players for cheaper than the combo would be.

Between now and then, I'll suffer without HDDVD/Blu viewing, but I watch a lot of downloaded HD movies in .ts, .mkv, .wmv, etc. format on my HTPC anyways.

Anyone have any suggestions or advice on this plan?
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Why not keep the addon and hook it up to your HTPC?

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Why not keep the addon and hook it up to your HTPC?

I thought about that, but then I would be committing to HDDVD, and I'm not sure I want to do that yet.

Also, if I was going to do that, I'd just keep my whole current setup (i.e. 360 console + HDDVD), and save the money I'd have to spend on PowerDVD.
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so xb360 ONLY has the HDDVD ??

and PS3 ONLY has blue ray ??
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Hi,

I just bought the Toshiba HD-XA2 (XE1) to replace my Add-on. The main reasons was: 1. 360 Console noise. 2. No HDMI connection. (I was surprised over the XA2 fan noise, though not nearly as bad as the 360). I think I will keep the Add-on to a possible HTPC, it kind of reminds of my old Commodore 64 from 1983 which I sold back then
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WHY would you sell the HD-DVD's you have? The equipment, I can understand, if you're serious about a dual-format player, but won't you want to be able to play something on that player when you get it? Sounds like you're more interested in dropping HDM completely or going Blu exclusively. If that's the case, the answers you'll get will be very different....
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WHY would you sell the HD-DVD's you have?

Probably because this thread is "flame bait".
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WHY would you sell the HD-DVD's you have? The equipment, I can understand, if you're serious about a dual-format player, but won't you want to be able to play something on that player when you get it? Sounds like you're more interested in dropping HDM completely or going Blu exclusively. If that's the case, the answers you'll get will be very different....

I've decided to not drop the HDDVDs, and pick up the new Samsung 4000 combo player coming out this fall, and thus be format neutral.

In the meantime, I'm getting the Onkyo TX-SR605.
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I think you mean Samsung 5000 combo. BD-UP5000, to be exact.
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I sold my HD DVD addon and purchased the Toshiba HD-XA2. I wanted a player that worked great with my Onkyo 805.
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I think you mean Samsung 5000 combo. BD-UP5000, to be exact.

Correct.
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Am I missing something here, your gonna dump one game console as a HD player and go with another?

200 +++ BD discs and counting...still enjoying 60+ HD-DVD's too!!
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Am I missing something here, your gonna dump one game console as a HD player and go with another?

Yes you are.

I'm going to dump one game console and pick up a receiver. Then get a combo player in a few months.
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Well, for me, all this encryption update crap is simplified with the xbox. I have Power DVD and they're behind the curve. Put in new disk, Xbox plays, PDVD, shuts down. So for now I'll keep the box. While connected, it updates itself, I don't have to search.

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As far as PQ goes with the 360 add on, its the same as any other player out there.
I have the PT AE1000U and the HD A20 and at 16' form a 120" screen the 360at 1080i matches the 1080p output from the A20.
Now sound wise, well there surely is a difference.
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Why not consider a Dual Format Rom Drive for your PC?

Just a thought.

I spotted one (LG, I believe) for $274. Of course this isn't an option if your PC isn't an HTPC. I'm going to do look into this option myself. I believe this drive comes with PDVD or WinDVD as well.

I currently own 2 360 addons (scored the 2nd from the sweet sweet deal from BB last week), but I'm looking heavily into BluRay (again, I sold my PS3).

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so does the xbox play HDDVD just as well as a standard hddvd player ?

how much do they run ?
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so does the xbox play HDDVD just as well as a standard hddvd player ?

how much do they run ?

1) Yes.
2) $180 in the US.
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just a fyi new premuim xbox system do have hdmi...thats why i went out and got one..
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1) Yes.
2) $180 in the US.

1) It is as good as a standard HD DVD player, when hooked up to a PC. When hooked up to an xbox360, it provides crippled multichannel sound, no way of getting high def audio out of it (even with the newer HDMI models out)
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Yes, if you're going to be dissatisfied with DTS (1.5 MBps) optical output, you'll be disappointed. Otherwise take "crippled" with a grain of salt.
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Quite right. Crippled IMHO. Others would differ.
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