Originally Posted by kapnobatai
Why was the announcement of Profile 1.1 was a big deal? We've known for a while that the UP5000 has the Broadcom BCM7440 which is upgradeable to Profile 1.1 and 2.0 via firmware. Unless Samsung has decided to limit the capabilities of one of it's components, we will be seeing Profile 2.0 available as a firmware update in the future as well.
The fact that Samsung is releasing their player post 10/31 means that they are obligated to provide 1.1 support in the future, so the comparison to their "promise" to release the UP2400 isn't exactly valid. Samsung was never obligated to release that product, they are obligated the support 1.1.http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=1047516
All in all, the UP5000 seems to support every conceivable feature on any standalone BluRay player or HD-DVD player. I have one pre-ordered from ABT.
The intent of the profile grace period is that players released (i.e. first shipped) to the market after 10/31 must be 1.1 or 2.0 compliant
. Obviously, Samsung is first shipping this player to the market either before or after the 10/31 deadline. According to the standard, if they're shipping it after
10/31 they're "obligated" to ship it out-of-the box
as a Profile 1.1 or 2.0 compliant player. If they're first shipping it before
10/31, they can ship it as a Profile 1.0 player and they are not
"obligated" to provide a future firmware update to Profile 1.1.
Again, CE manufacturers make announcements that they don't deliver on all the time. Opinion only, but frankly it looks to me like Samsung is still having problems getting the Profile 1.1 firmware to work with this player, so they've worked out a loophole with the BDA- otherwise I think they'd be announcing that they'll ship it as a Profile 1.1 player. Could it be that they're "shipping" limited quantities to retailers before the 10/31 deadline and requiring them to hold them for sale to consumers until late December in the hopes that the bugs will be worked out for general release by then? What happens if they don't
(can't?) have the firmware update available by January 2008 as they plan? Will they work out another
deal with the BDA and say that this is a pre-10/31 player so "too bad consumers, we're not 'obligated' to update it", or do you think the BDA will try to make Samsung buy back all the "non-compliant" players that they sold at the end of December and early January? Personally, I think that Samsung will
eventually make this player Profile 1.1 compliant, but what if they're "obligated" to provide a profile they end up being unable to deliver to consumers? I'm not counting any chickens yet, myself.
Idle musings, but food for thought.