Originally Posted by SpenceJT
All this talk about the BD association asking that Samsung hold off on release of the player doesn't wash with me. As a corporation, Samsung has to answer to it's stockholders.
They've effectively killed off their high end "BD only" player. The BD-UP5000 is
. I can't imagine them holding off on the potential earnings, or worse yet, voluntarily sabotaging their 2007 holiday sales numbers!
A very close friend of mine worked for Samsung until he recently left and went to another company. I saw him this past holiday weekend while he was in town. His point to me was to remember that BD and HD-DVD are very tiny portions of the home A/V market at this point, particularly to a company as big as Samsung. They're much more concerned with the performance of TV sales. That's a brutal market to be in right now, especially with all the low-priced chinese competition rearing its head everywhere. That, and portable electronics (wrong forum for that conversation).
TVs are huge now, not only because they are "smaller yet bigger" and because of HD. They are big because of the upcoming "turning off of the analog signal." All the manufacturers want to be the benficary of what they hope are massive amounts of new TV sales. BD and HDDVD are still really niche products for them.
Heck their projector line-up was the same sort of deal. They developed projectors solely because Sony did, and they always felt they had to do what Sony does, but better. 95% of the company had no idea they even made a projector, let alone who Joe Kane was.
Now the two companies (Samsung and Sony) are working closely on certain products and technology, because china has them all nervous. Marketing has shown again and again that the MAJORITY of consumers buy PRICE, PERIOD.
Long story short- don't expect "shareholders" to be too worried about some high-priced hybrid player if it comes out a few months later than planned. Nobody cares.
While Mr. X has been out of Samsung in NJ for a few months, he expects that Sony is approaching the equipment manufactures and working deals to lower the insane BD license fees to try and counter the HD-DVD low prices ($200 and under is the magic number, remember). Sony has a LOT more to lose than Samsung. PS3, anyone? This is a niche, and a super-niche at that, product for Samsung. It's just not one the radar of people who matter at that company. If some partners ask them to hold on for a good reason, Samsung has no problems waiting as they weren't going to make or break the company with the sales for that product. And PARTICULARLY when Samsung has multiple standalone BD players already in the retail channels during the holiday buying season!
His final point to me was that Blu-ray/HD-DVD is not EVEN CLOSE to the leap that VHS to DVD was. Furthermore, digital distribution may very well make optical media a thing of the past (look what it did to the recording industry). Samsung and a lot of other players are well aware of this fact, and are madly scrambling to adapt. They all fear that what happened to Sony (ignoring MP3 for too long, late on flatscreen tech, etc) will happen to them.
Summary- the BDP-5000 will appear when & if Samsung cares to have it appear.