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I believe PLIIx can be applied to the lossless coming over HDMI. Are you sure that's not on?

Yes, my Denon process legacy as default, and DTS neo if no legacy is sent to it. My display was reading "multi channel in".....
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http://gizmodo.com/341077/samsung-bp...vd-dual-player (from the 5500 thread)..

"The Catch: The BP-5000 is having some issues with audio format support, that Sammy hopes to fix by software soon. Hope this set ships cleaner." (emphasis mine)

The clock is ticking Samsung. Confirm that you are going to fix the audio in the 5000, or I am boxing the thing up and going with an A30(5)/BD30. Notice the lack of a Samsung player.

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any word on the possible cancellation of this player ? hope not, but rumors are strong

In my opinion, rumors are weak....
Let's get corraborated solid fact before doing the "Chicken Little" routine!
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I just picked up a 5000 today at CC. They had one left. I'm not impressed so far. I've had it for half a day and I'm still more impressed with my ps3. 28 weeks won't play at all. The audio isn't very good,compared to using LPCM off the ps3. I bought it to try it out and take it back anyhow.If for some miracle they get the audio codecs fixed,I'll keep it.They have 29 days left..
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Complaint e-mail sent to Samsung via http://www.samsung.com/us/info/contactus.html#

clicked on Blu-Ray, and selected any of the players, entered my serial number, and the question type was complaint.

Maybe the other 5000 users should do the same.

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Hi all! I'm new at this and I hope this hasn't been posted yet. The "replacement," the BD-UP5500 does NOT have the Reon chip. Since I'm new I can't post a link, but check the cnet ces website.
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Well, it has happened...

The Panasonic BD50 officially promises TrueHD and DTS Master audio internal decoding as well as Profile 2.0 BD compliance. This along with the Warner exclusivity announcement will likely convince me to return my 5000 unless I hear some confirmation of internal decoding before my return window closes.

I still have my Xbox360 HDDVD add-on for the remaining life of HDDVD and will simply buy the BD50 to perform my BD duties long-term.

I still hope they come through, but the wording of the UP5500 presser seems to indicate that it will be the first BD2.0 compliant Duo player and may be the place where internal decoding finally gets the bugs out.

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The Panasonic BD50 officially promises TrueHD and DTS Master audio internal decoding as well as Profile 2.0 BD compliance. This along with the Warner exclusivity announcement will likely convince me to return my 5000 unless I hear some confirmation of internal decoding before my return window closes.
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I still hope they come through, but the wording of the UP5500 presser seems to indicate that it will be the first BD2.0 compliant Duo player and may be the place where internal decoding finally gets the bugs out.

Hmmm.... When is the release date of the Panny 50? I wonder how SD-DVD's look? Does it bitstream, as well? I would assume so.

I have an A2 in my closet which I can pull out for my HD-DVD movies.

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Hi all! I'm new at this and I hope this hasn't been posted yet. The "replacement," the BD-UP5500 does NOT have the Reon chip. Since I'm new I can't post a link, but check the cnet ces website.

Here's the link to the CNET CES 2008 Video report... http://ces.cnet.com/8300-13855_1-67-...g=ces2008_bnav

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I just picked up a 5000 today at CC. They had one left. I'm not impressed so far. I've had it for half a day and I'm still more impressed with my ps3. 28 weeks won't play at all.

FWIW, my 5000 played 28 WEEKS perfectly.
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Hmmm.... When is the release date of the Panny 50? I wonder how SD-DVD's look? Does it bitstream, as well? I would assume so.

I have an A2 in my closet which I can pull out for my HD-DVD movies.

I keep seeing people asking about SD quality. Where has it been said that SD quality on the BD30 is bad? As I understand the 30 and 50 will use the same chip.

And just to keep this response a little on topic, I think SD looks great on 5000 player.
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SD should look great on the 5000; it has a Reon. I've read several reports of SD being poorly upconverted on the BD30. If you have good upconversion in your A/V receiver, pre/pro or display device, that doesn't matter.

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I'm so confused. Between Warner Bros' announcement and the mixed reviews of the BH200 and BD-UP5000, I don't know what to do. I just purchased an hd-xa2 3 weeks ago to replace my hd-a2. I have a ps3 for blu-ray but liked having a separate player for dvd's. The HD-XA2 is an incredible machine but I can't keep it after what has happened. I guess I'll just stick with my hd-a2. The point is, I want a player with strong upconversion and the only four (that I've found) are the BD-UP5000, BH200, Hd-xa2, and the bd-1200. And no, I don't want a just a separate dvd upconverter....is the BD-UP5000 that bad?
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.is the BD-UP5000 that bad?

not at all. In fact, I love the PQ from my 5000.

The primary issues with the 5000 are all with audio:

1) TrueHD is only in 2 channel (the bare minimum for T-HD)
2) No bitstreaming of advanced audio
3) No decoders of advanced audio
EDIT 4) The lack of decent speaker controls for those who use analog, and the fixed 100 hz crossover.

the main video qualm I have with the 5000 is the stretched 4:3 SD-DVD (i.e. South Park). I don't watch often, so I would be willing to live with it. The Reon HQV upconvert is amazing.

The audio may be another story once my Yamaha arrives.

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I don't think BestBuyForBusiness adheres to the Jan. 31 return allowance abided by the consumer retail industry, so that means I have until Saturday to return this daddy. It seems the questions are only becoming further clouded in mystery.
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vinnie,

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One simple question may help you decide. Are you going to buy any more HD-DVD disc?

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I almost bought some last night (The Kingdom, Eastern Promises, Pan's Labyrinth, etc.)...so that tells you it's definitely a possibility. With my 360 add-on as a backup, I see no real reason to stop (especially with combo discs...which I am going to HATE to see disappear if HD DVD vanishes, which I don't think will happen outright).
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This BD50 announcement might have broken the camels back on my 5k. The audio issues, the WB annoucement, and my current A2 might be enough. I'm a BBFB buyer and this is my last week to return. I have a limited HD-DVD collection and have my A2 for that.

The BD50 is going to be full profile 2.0, and building on the BD30 success will probably be ready to go in full HD glory out of the box.

Panasonice BD50 press release
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...52008065621607

I'm going to guess $499
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I would be sick to my stomach paying that much for a Blu-Ray only player. I have too much appreciation for the HD DVD format AND prefer to have one box for both. The camel's back on my 5K is still fairly strong.
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I apologize it appears my post came across as BR troll, it surely wasn't meant that way. My main concern is the limited time that I have left to return my player. If there is no word from Samsung I'm best served only playing HD-DVDs on my A2 until either the 5000 announces bitstream support or the BD50 comes out for BR.
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That's fair.
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I would rate the preference of tracks like this:
Analogs:
1.) lpcm
2.) DTS-MA
3.) TrueHD
4.) DTS-HD
5.) DD+
SPDIF:
6.) DTS ES
7.) DD w/PLIIx
8.) DTS
9.) Dolby Digital
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For my setup I have to press a 7.1 button on my receiver and that puts it in a pass-through mode for the analogs. (although I've automated all of this with the remote)

I'm not sure why you put DD w/PLIIx above DTS and DD. Doesn't PLIIx mean you're expanding from a stereo source?


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For all intents and purposes, these *should* be equal of course...if the player receives the proper firmware.

You're right about the first 3, but DTS-HD is not lossless like DTS-MA. It's more like DD+ than it is like PCM/TrueHD/DTS-MA.

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Well, I know about "ants" and "teeth", but what is this? I have a series of horizontal lines across the screen for about 2/3rd of the horizontal space. Then I have short vertical lines across the bottom.

If I power cycle, it goes away. But then a couple of power cycles later it is back. It is there in the back-ground screen, the menu screen, and movie play. I've never seen my projector do this (Optoma HD80), so I suspect the 5000.

I have the November firmware, and the November build-date. I've played numerous movies, and this only started happening recently. This appears when using the HDMI connection to the projector.

The horizontal lines are continuous (the missing spaces is just from downsampling the photo). And there is indeed a purple "Samsung" and "HD DVD" ghosted from the white letters
in file4.

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Edit: after upgrading the HD80 to version "C.05" firmware (Oct 12), the problem went away. If you don't see a firmware version on the HD80's setup menu, then you have the old firmware and need to update. Note that brand new HD80's are shipping with the old firmware. Thanks to robbroy for the pointer to the 5000/HD80 thread: Samsung 5000 purple video with HD80
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Absolutely, the Reon is worth the $200 price difference. If Samsung fixes the current problems with the BD-UP5000, the 5000 would still clearly be the preferred player for anyone without a Reon or Realta in their pre/pro, receiver or display device.

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I agree, and here's my optimistic speculation. The 5500 will be extremely similar to the 5000, with the cheaper VP being the primary (only?) difference. Thus the 5000 and 5500 will have very similar firmware (and problems) too. I would bet that as they support the 5500, the same fixes will trickle down to the 5000 fairly quickly (or vice versa).

If this is true, and the 5000 continues to be supported by Samsung, I will absolutely feel justified in spending what I did instead of saving money by losing the Reon HQV. In fact, the Reon is one of the main reasons I didn't go with separates, since the XA2 is discontinued.

Those at CES should specifically ask whether they will continue to support the 5000 now that the 5500 is on its way.

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I just wouldn't go through the hell of explaining to my girlfriend, again...: "These are BD and those are HD, honey, don't put it in this one, put it in the other player....No, the player is not broken, it just takes longer to load...No, honey, we don't buy the old dvds...because, this is HD...No, honey, the player is not broken, read the label again..."
...mmmyeah, I'd keep my 5000
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I'm not sure why you put DD w/PLIIx above DTS and DD. Doesn't PLIIx mean you're expanding from a stereo source?




You're right about the first 3, but DTS-HD is not lossless like DTS-MA. It's more like DD+ than it is like PCM/TrueHD/DTS-MA.

PLIIx will expand dd 5.1 into 7.1 non-discrete too. I've had really good results with it on my receiver.
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PLIIx will expand dd 5.1 into 7.1 non-discrete too. I've had really good results with it on my receiver.

Ahhh, makes sense. Probably the same sort of dematrixing that PL uses to get the center channel. So, based on your list, you'd probably have 6.5) DTS w/PLIIx? But I think we can drop those from the list, since PLIIx is an after-effect that has little to do with the actual source.

Good to know, though. If I ever re-arrange my room such that 7.1 would work, it's nice to know I can get those channels from 5.1 by dematrixing.


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I just wouldn't go through the hell of explaining to my girlfriend, again...: "These are BD and those are HD, honey, don't put it in this one, put it in the other player....No, the player is not broken, it just takes longer to load...No, honey, we don't buy the old dvds...because, this is HD...No, honey, the player is not broken, read the label again..."
...mmmyeah, I'd keep my 5000

Sorry to break this to you, but the 5000 doesn't save you from that question! I still have to fend off DVD purchases when I'm quite certain I can find it in HD-DVD or Blu-ray. Fortunately, my gf sees the quality difference, so she doesn't put up a fight.

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I just sent Samsung the following, and as you can see I was a little pissed off. I had to tone it down a bit, but I think this whole thing is just absurd. I know when you buy electronics, there are new models in the works, but this is the first thing I have ever bought that the replacement was announced while I could still return the product (legitimately and without a warranty issue). How do they have any credibility, to announce a new model of a defective and yet un-updated/fixed product? Screw these guys. I know I will not hurt their business, but I can't help but think that I am not the only one who thinks these guys suck. I am pretty forgiving of big business, but I think they at least have to make an attempt at pretending to give a ****. Announcing a new model prior to fixing the mess just doesn't quite cut if for me. Here is what I sent.

The model # is not correct, which makes this even worse. You haven't even added this product to your FAQs/support yet. This is total B.S., to have waited for what you and the Home Theater Media have touted as the do-all player and thus the player I have waited for, is a joke. This player has been available since just before Christmas and just after New Years, you announce a replacement model. Boy, I will sure be in line for that one. This one has so many problems that I don't know if I will ever buy another Samsung product again. You don't even give any info yet on the FAQs page, or firmware info for this, yet you have the nerve to announce a new wonder player! Give me a break! I wanted so much for this to be the reason I waited for HD/BR-DVD and it is a headache. I have to wonder if each disc will, or will not play; I constantly look for video/audio anomalies and the SD - 4:3 ratio is stretched. Why did you rush this model out. I understand new formats have problems and they can/should be fixed...but come on!!! What a slap in the face to the trusted consumers who bought your product. We look to CES in hopes of answers to your half baked product for fixes and instead we get your promotion of the replacement model...and at $200 less than what I just paid 2 weeks ago. And $400 less than Best Buy's current price! I will return your player and buy from another company. And, I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way. Thanks for....I don't know what...killing my hopes of this being the next best format/product!?
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I have to go out of town for the week, due to work. My plan now, as you may be able to tell from my previous post, is to get rid of the 5000 when I return. I am not paying them $800 for a player, when they are announcing a new one for less. I don't care what it may or may not have. This one does not do what they promised and I am not going to count on them again. And the nerve of Best Buy to knock the price up to $999. What a double stick in the butt. Samsung can bite me. I have tried to stay positive and hopefully of a firmware fix, but for their first announcement to be a replacement model...Oh yeah...Put me on a pre-paid list!!!
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I have to go out of town for the week, due to work. My plan now, as you may be able to tell from my previous post, is to get rid of the 5000 when I return. I am not paying them $800 for a player, when they are announcing a new one for less. I don't care what it may or may not have. This one does not do what they promised and I am not going to count on them again. And the nerve of Best Buy to knock the price up to $999. What a double stick in the butt. Samsung can bite me. I have tried to stay positive and hopefully of a firmware fix, but for their first announcement to be a replacement model...Oh yeah...Put me on a pre-paid list!!!

Well, I'm taking the optimistic approach and you're taking the pessimistic. Sadly, you could just as easily be right as me, and I totally see why you're pissed off.

But since I have almost a month to return this, I still have hope Samsung will pull through with an update for the 5000! I believe they'll update the 5000 along the road to bringing out the 5500. Let's hope they will find a perfect audio solution, implement it in the 5000, and thus have it ready and tested (by us) for the 5500's before they ship. Everybody wins; we get the player we were promised, and Samsung has a new combo player that's perfect out of the box (and better priced for mainstream sales).

I'm not sure why you're pissed at Samsung for BB's lame price. I'm sure BB made that decision because they have so many BH200's sitting around at $999, and Samsung had nothing to do with that. Just don't buy it from BB! CC had it for $750 when I bought, and with a 10% off coupon I only paid $75 more than this new 5500 will cost... well worth it for that Reon HQV! Even at $800 it would have been worth it to me.

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