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View Poll Results: Who Will Be Returning Or Keeping Their Samsung 5000?
Keeping It! 49 59.76%
Already Boxed And Returning It! 11 13.41%
I Want To Love It/I Don't Want To Hate It! I Just Don't Know... 22 26.83%
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post #121 of 133 Old 02-06-2008, 04:25 PM
 
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Mine went back to Best Buy last Sunday after only a week of use.

Saturday night we tried to watch Mr. Woodcock (BluRay, Netflix), wasted a half hour of our lives on that before I finally searched here and found that it was a lost cause.

Then we popped in our other current Netflix rental, a standard-def documentary called, "Unknown White Male." For a while all it would give me was a black screen. It claimed this was the menu. After lots of ejecting and stopping and messing around, I finally got it to play (I think RESUME PLAY after a stop was what did it).

All in all, way too much hassle for me.

Now I have a PS3 and Toshiba HD-A30.

I don't play video games at all, but I love the PS3! It's the best DVD player I've ever had. If you open the on-screen TIME display, you get a beautifully-rendered progress bar showing where you are in the movie. That alone sold me. It's substantially faster at everything than the 5000 was. For instance, you can turn it on by shoving a disc in it, whereas most HD players make you stand there twiddling your thumbs for a while after you hit the EJECT button.

Make sure you buy Sony's $25 bluetooth remote so you don't have to use the silly gaming joystick to control movies. I bought the PS3 and remote from Circuit City online, and they automatically took $25 off the price of the PS3, rendering the remote effectively free.

This PS3 + HD-A30 pair cost me $250 less than the Samsung 5000 alone, and I'm much happier.

The PS3 is faster than every standalone known to man. I'm still not interested in one.
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Well after I returned my BD-UP5000, I now ordered a BD-P1400 for Bluray and a Toshiba HD-A35 for HD-DVD. They are due to arrive tomorrow for me to try them out. I really hate to get two extra components and all that extra cable connectivity needed for two separate players. I really wish the BD-UP5000 would have worked out. It would have been the best player and deal out on the market currently. Too bad they are wishy washy on their commitment to fix the bugs on it. If they do, I will buy it again. If they don't I will live with 2 separate players. Oh, I also paid $210 less for two players than I did for the BD-UP5000! I already had all the cables so no extra spent there. wow! I just hope the two new players work out for me. If they prove too buggy, I will return them also and then wait till next year for things to get settled in this new technology.

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Well after I returned my BD-UP5000, I now ordered a BD-P1400 for Bluray and a Toshiba HD-A35 for HD-DVD. They are due to arrive tomorrow for me to try them out. I really hate to get two extra components and all that extra cable connectivity needed for two separate players. I really wish the BD-UP5000 would have worked out. It would have been the best player and deal out on the market currently. Too bad they are wishy washy on their commitment to fix the bugs on it. If they do, I will buy it again. If they don't I will live with 2 separate players. Oh, I also paid $210 less for two players than I did for the BD-UP5000! I already had all the cables so no extra spent there. wow! I just hope the two new players work out for me. If they prove too buggy, I will return them also and then wait till next year for things to get settled in this new technology.

You should have gotten the Panasonic BD30K.. BD-P 1400 ouch!
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You should have gotten the Panasonic BD30K.. BD-P 1400 ouch!

Well just took delivery of the BD-P1400 and the Tosh HD-A35 from Amazon.com! I will have to check it out. I did not want the limitations of the Panasonic BD-30 even though it seems to have good bug free reports for the most part (aside from the LFE bug). The BD-P1400 seems to offer the best bang for the bucks and has most of the capabilities I want. If it turns out to be quirku playing discs, I will return it. Right now, just got it connected to my Onkyo NR905 and playing movie Hairspray with DTS-HD-MA bitstreaming to my speakers for the first time in this house! Have not cracked open the Toshiba A35 box yet... as I have to make room for two players. Wish they would fix the bugs in the BD-UP5000 as that is the one I would really like to have here in one component space and less cables.

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Too bad they are wishy washy on their commitment to fix the bugs on it. .

I still dont get this. Nowhere has Samsung been wishy washy. Seems that the only wishy washy-ness has been the people that returned it.

strange.
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how does the 905 sound with the 1400?
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I still dont get this. Nowhere has Samsung been wishy washy. Seems that the only wishy washy-ness has been the people that returned it.

strange.

Choptop, Samsung as well as Broadcom have been silent to the public (customers) on all of this. We only have the second hand reports from online mag reviews and such telling us what to expect. Do you work for Samsung?
You seem to be picking for a fight. I am not participating in it if you are.
I can't help you if you don't understand or "get it" what I am talking about.
I think Samsung owes us at least an official statement to clear it all up. Until then, it is all vaporware. Let's see what this Friday's firmware update will bring to th BD-UP5000 (if they really release it as rumored). If it fixes all the bugs I am concerned about, like I said, I will buy the unit back again. 'nuff said. Do you own the BD-UP5000 BTW and feel the need to defend your purchase? If not, I get the impression you like to find things to argue over.
This is not a fight. This is an endeavor to get the unsatisfied message to Samsung when they read the internet postings about said topic(s). I don't knock the folks who decided to keep it, and I don't knock the ones who returned it. Wishy-washy is like they advertised their players to be able to do certain things with later firmware updates. Then later reports from their reps at CES, said that they won't be able to enable such features due to hardware problems. Then later still, reps start saying that firmware update to enable features will be out in May 2008, then news comes out that they are going to discontinue in May, then news comes out that they changed their minds and that discontinuation date can change... wishy washy, no?

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Choptop, Samsung as well as Broadcom have been silent to the public (customers) on all of this. We only have the second hand reports from online mag reviews and such telling us what to expect. Do you work for Samsung?
You seem to be picking for a fight. I am not participating in it if you are.
I can't help you if you don't understand or "get it" what I am talking about.

No I'm not picking for a fight. Nor do I feel the need to defend my purchase.

what I "dont get" is how people continue to diss Samsung based on nothing.

when in fact all they have done is put a product on the market, promised updates for it, and so far have lived up to that promise... by issuing updates.

This gets translated into Samsung "abandoning customers", "being wishy washy", "screwing customers"...

thats what I dont get. There is nothing different about this player than any other (needing updates, missing features, not playing certain discs), but yet statements of that ilk keep coming up. Everyone keeps reading WAY too much into a situation that no one really knows anything about.
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Then later reports from their reps at CES,


wait a minute... ya mean someone at a trade show booth said something? it must be gospel then.

Come on.

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Wishy-washy is like they advertised their players to be able to do certain things with later firmware updates. Then later reports from their reps at CES, said that they won't be able to enable such features due to hardware problems. Then later still, reps start saying that firmware update to enable features will be out in May 2008, then news comes out that they are going to discontinue in May, then news comes out that they changed their minds and that discontinuation date can change... wishy washy, no?

If you have official sources for any of the above spill it.

When I see statements and retractions from Samsung in press releases then I'll buy it. Until then... its all grand rumor.

What we KNOW is that Samsung brought a product to market, promised updates, has delivered and update with more promised, and has said that they will eventually discontinue the product.

nothing extraordinary there.


they advertised their players to be able to do certain things with later firmware updates. - true


Then later reports from their reps at CES, said that they won't be able to enable such features due to hardware problems. - ?

Then later still, reps start saying that firmware update to enable features will be out in May 2008 - ?

then news comes out that they are going to discontinue in May - true

then news comes out that they changed their minds and that discontinuation date can change - ?



In another thread there is someone spreading the rumor that THE one guy that knows anything about the 7440 chip has left Samsung... With no basis in fact at all. Come on people. Rope it in.
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so does Best Buy giv customers a 30-day trial period, no questions asked return policy? there is no re-stocking fee associated with it?
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Yes, Best Buy allows you to "borrow" the unit for 30 days, no restocking fee.

Circuit City on the other hand charges a 15% restocking fee on the unit unless there is something "wrong" with the unit. If they have it in stock, they will try to replace it with another unit. My suggestion is that you return it to a store that does not have them in stock, and with manager's approval, they'll return the whole thing.

I definately recommend staying away from CC if you're just renting the unit.
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After reading through this thread I'm leaning toward waiting on either further firmware updates or until a better player comes out. I would really love to have a single player, but at the price point for the 5000, it just seems hard make the buy given it's reported short comings. Any thoughts?
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I'm keeping my 5k. I'm not sure what's up with all the haters. Mine works fine with no issues re audio or video playback. I like the dual format, even though HD-DVD will likely not make it to 2009, because at least as of now there are HDDVD-only titles that I want to see. The Reon upscaling is a nice feature as I watch a lot of foreign DVDs and they are almost always SD. Plus, the load and response times are significantly quicker than on my Sony 300 BR player.

Seems that many are pissed because they were bitten by the "early release" bug. But that's ALWAYS the risk of early adopters and has been since the electronic age began. If you're gonna buy any electronic device right out of the gate -- especially one as complicated as a dual-format player in an industry well know for over-promising on delivery -- there's a chance you get a dud.
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