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post #91 of 102 Old 05-12-2009, 07:05 AM
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C'mon David 5 months in, I know there has been upgrades, and updates...
I for one would love to hear about, heck I'll be happy with pictures if you add them



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Hi Rydenfan, just checking to see how the 36.5 is sounding after a few months of listening. Can you compare it to the 9.0se? I recently purchased the kwa 150 and was trying to decide whether to pair it up with the 9.0se or the 36.5. You opinion would be appreciated. Thanks
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I believe David's migrated to an Esoteric C-03 preamp.
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I believe David's migrated to an Esoteric C-03 preamp.

No he didn't but I'll let him respond. I turned David onto Modwright (and Weiss and a few others). David has done the same for me. We've had quite a lot of fun with new pre's, new DACs, etc.

He and his wife just recently moved 1000 miles and they've each started new jobs, so David's preoccupied. I'm sure he'll jump in here soon.

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Howdy Ted! Tried the Weiss, but liked the Bekeley better.

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Howdy Ted! Tried the Weiss, but liked the Bekeley better.

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Yes, the Berkeley is awesome too. In my system the Weiss prevailed (I a/b'd them) via firewire, but YMMV. It's a chocolate chip vs pralines-n-cream thing.

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Hi Rydenfan, just checking to see how the 36.5 is sounding after a few months of listening. Can you compare it to the 9.0se? I recently purchased the kwa 150 and was trying to decide whether to pair it up with the 9.0se or the 36.5. You opinion would be appreciated. Thanks

I have a 9.0SE Signature with upgraded rectifier tube (Mullard) and main tubes (Raytheon). I purchased it just in the last month and came across this thread tonight. Reading David's initial impressions reminded me very much of my experience when I added this preamp to my system.

I was in contact with Dan about the same question you asked, how different is the 9.0SE, 9.0SE Sig and 36.5. His answer was that 9.0SE to 9.0SE Sig is a 20% improvement and 9.0SE Sig to 36.5 is a 25% improvement. I don't know if these numbers represent anything measurable or if they are Dan's subjective opinion. But, upgrading the tubes in my unit certainly pushed the performance up a notch. The rectifier upgrade added a greater sense of space and depth to the sound, while the main tube upgrade (from GE to Raytheons) improved dynamics and microdetail.
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I have a 9.0SE Signature with upgraded rectifier tube (Mullard) and main tubes (Raytheon). I purchased it just in the last month and came across this thread tonight. Reading David's initial impressions reminded me very much of my experience when I added this preamp to my system.

I was in contact with Dan about the same question you asked, how different is the 9.0SE, 9.0SE Sig and 36.5. His answer was that 9.0SE to 9.0SE Sig is a 20% improvement and 9.0SE Sig to 36.5 is a 25% improvement. I don't know if these numbers represent anything measurable or if they are Dan's subjective opinion. But, upgrading the tubes in my unit certainly pushed the performance up a notch. The rectifier upgrade added a greater sense of space and depth to the sound, while the main tube upgrade (from GE to Raytheons) improved dynamics and microdetail.

Thanks for this info, yes this does help. I wonder then if going from the original 9.0se to the 36.5 is, in essence, a 45% improvement. If that is the case, then the 36.5 is probably the way to go.
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I am one of Dan's earliest customers and beta testers. I had the prototype then the 9.0SE, then went to the one box 36.5 and ultimately the two box 36.5 dual mono.

First off I would say that the move from the 9.0Se to the 36.5 was a 30-35% improvement (huge, IOW). The depth of soundstage, the you-are-there feeling, just took over. Bass impact was better, but not like the aforementioned aspects. When you go dual mono PS (the two box version of the 36.5) that's when bass slam and the last bits of macro and microdetail really come forward. The move from 36.5 to the 36.5 DM was another 15%. So...the two box 36.5 is almost half again as good as the 9.0SE...that's damn good.
Tue rolling becomes more of an art with the two box (dual recitfiers, etc) and 3rd party power cords really affect the sonics. The umbilical (between line stage and PS) that Dan provides (Revelation silver) is plenty good and no need for upgrade IMO.

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The real question is how much are you willing to spend to get 20%, 35% or 50% more performance. The 9.0SE, 9.0SE Sig, 36.5, and 36.5 DM can be had on the used market for ~$1000, $1500, $3000, and $5000 (ballpark figures).
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I am one of Dan's earliest customers and beta testers. I had the prototype then the 9.0SE, then went to the one box 36.5 and ultimately the two box 36.5 dual mono.

First off I would say that the move from the 9.0Se to the 36.5 was a 30-35% improvement (huge, IOW). The depth of soundstage, the you-are-there feeling, just took over. Bass impact was better, but not like the aforementioned aspects. When you go dual mono PS (the two box version of the 36.5) that's when bass slam and the last bits of macro and microdetail really come forward. The move from 36.5 to the 36.5 DM was another 15%. So...the two box 36.5 is almost half again as good as the 9.0SE...that's damn good.
Tue rolling becomes more of an art with the two box (dual recitfiers, etc) and 3rd party power cords really affect the sonics. The umbilical (between line stage and PS) that Dan provides (Revelation silver) is plenty good and no need for upgrade IMO.

Great info, and exactly what I was wondering. I am looking to add a little more punch to the bass for my system so I guess I will seriously have to consider the 2 box 36.5.


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The real question is how much are you willing to spend to get 20%, 35% or 50% more performance. The 9.0SE, 9.0SE Sig, 36.5, and 36.5 DM can be had on the used market for ~$1000, $1500, $3000, and $5000 (ballpark figures).

Yeah, that is very true. I just chunked down some money for the amp and shelling out another $3000-5000 grand is something I will have to consider. Not to mention if I have to replace the tubes. I am going to try and get a listen to both myself to really see if it is worth the extra money. Again guys, thanks for the help. The one thing that I know I will be happy with is the fact that if I do get the modwright preamp, that if there are any issues, I will be dealing with a great company and a great owner in Dan.
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Just read through, great stuff. My 36.5 2 box is on its way. What a great photo presentation earlier. I'll do my best to try to stay in the same zip code quality wise.

I haven't had a preamp in a good number of years. I have been using my DAC which has analog inputs. I need more inputs so I am looking forward to my ModWright 36.5's. I'll keep you 36.5 folks posted.
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