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Any recommendations for headphones to use with the Peachtree Nova?

A little more info would be helpful...

In ear, on ear, or around ear?

Closed or open?

Price range?

Musical tastes?

Sound tastes (bright, bass heavy, neutral, etc.)?
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Sorry. Around ear. Music is mostly classical and jazz.

(Are there in-ear buds that plug into receivers? I thought they were only for mobile stuff.)
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You can use an 1/8" to 1/4" adapter to plug IEM's into a receiver, but full-size headphones are the best choice for at-home listening.

What is your budget?
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If your looking for good sounding and comfortable headphones, at low price.

Panasonic RP-HTF600-S, with Beyerdynamic EDT 200 Velour pads.
Total about $55-$60

Yamaha RX-V671 receiver

Infinity Beta 5.1

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Now this is a headphone amp.

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Monoblock with balanced outputs?!?! Jeez!

The balanced HD 800's aren't bad either.
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If your looking for good sounding and comfortable headphones, at low price.

Panasonic RP-HTF600-S, with Beyerdynamic EDT 200 Velour pads.
Total about $55-$60

I just read the first few pages of the head-fi thread and am intrigued. So intrigued that I just ordered a pair from Amazon. For $30, why not?
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If your looking for good sounding and comfortable headphones, at low price.

Panasonic RP-HTF600-S, with Beyerdynamic EDT 200 Velour pads.
Total about $55-$60

How much more quality would I get for about $200?

Also -- does the cord length matter? My preferred reclinin area is about 15' from the receiver, so I was thinking about a 20' cord.
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How much more quality would I get for about $200?

Also -- does the cord length matter? My preferred reclinin area is about 15' from the receiver, so I was thinking about a 20' cord.

It depends on how critical a listener you are. I haven't heard those Panasonics (I'll have mine tomorrow from Amazon Prime), but in my experience, a $30 headphone will not be "hi-fi." They may be fine for a casual listener, but a discerning audiophile will almost certainly prefer a higher quality headphone. Of course, just like with loudspeakers, the law of diminishing returns applies here - just like a pair of $15,000 Revels don't sound 10X better than $1,500 Paradigms, a $300 headphone will not be 10X better than a $30 headphone.

There are excellent $200 headphones I can recommend to you. Or, if you step up to $300, a whole new realm becomes available to you. So what kind of speakers do you have and how discerning of an audiophile are you?

Most headphones have a 10' cable. You'll need an extension cable to get that length.
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How much more quality would I get for about $200?

If you're at all discriminating, you should have no problem finding some $200
headphones to blow away any $30 set (as good as they might be.) Is it worth
the money to you? (It was to me: I got an $18 pair and a $285 pair.)

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Also -- does the cord length matter? My preferred reclinin area is
about 15' from the receiver, so I was thinking about a 20' cord.

A 20' cord is long enough that you may want to pay attention to the cable's
gauge. You don't need 16 AWG wire but 28 AWG might well be too small.
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How much more quality would I get for about $200?
Also -- does the cord length matter? My preferred reclinin area is about 15' from the receiver, so I was thinking about a 20' cord.

I do not believe you will find an high end headphones with a 20' cable.
So you would need an extension cable.

What source(s) are you plugging your headphones into?
Unless your using a source with a dedicated headphone amplifier, you should stick to headphones in the 32 to 60-Ohm range.
Check the head-fi website for good advice.

Yamaha RX-V671 receiver

Infinity Beta 5.1

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I do not believe you will find an high end headphones with a 20' cable.
So you would need an extension cable.

What source(s) are you plugging your headphones into?
Unless your using a source with a dedicated headphone amplifier, you should stick to headphones in the 32 to 60-Ohm range.
Check the head-fi website for good advice.

His Peachtree Nova will power pretty much any headphone he could possibly want with ease.
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Amazon "Lightning Deal" on the Sennheiser HD 600 right now. $270.00. DStone001, if your still shopping for headphones, jump on these.
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If your looking for good sounding and comfortable headphones, at low price. Panasonic RP-HTF600-S, with Beyerdynamic EDT 200 Velour pads.
Total about $55-$60

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I just read the first few pages of the head-fi thread and am intrigued. So intrigued that I just ordered a pair from Amazon. For $30, why not?

My Panasonic RP-HTF600's are broken in and I would say they are the best $30 headphone I've ever heard.

They aren't perfect, or even hi-fi really, but they are surprisingly good. They don't hold a candle to a true entry-level hi-fi headphone like the Sennheiser HD 598, but I'm pleased to have them in my collection.
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Amazon "Lightning Deal" on the Sennheiser HD 600 right now. $270.00. DStone001, if your still shopping for headphones, jump on these.

I saw that one. Good price - I was tempted.

.... but they were already sold out when I checked in 17 minutes after it started.
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I saw that one. Good price - I was tempted.

.... but they were already sold out when I checked in 17 minutes after it started.

That was the second time I've seen the 600's on sale at Amazon at that price. I bought them the first time. If you can wait, I'm sure they'll go on sale again.
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They seem to have them this morning at 314.95
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They seem to have them this morning at 314.95

That's been the going price for some time. It's a good deal and still worth it in my opinion.
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Amazon "Lightning Deal" on the Sennheiser HD 600 right now. $270.00. DStone001, if your still shopping for headphones, jump on these.

I can vouch for the HD600. They are one of my headphones (actually I'm using them as I type this).

Very versatile. I picked them up use for around $200 USD and came with an HD650 cable attached to them instead of the stock cable (just physically looks better built than the HD600 cable). I'm not a fan of cable upgrades but I'll take it since it came as such.

Take a look at Grado too. Some of their entry headphones are fun too...although comfort could be an issue (I own a pair of these as well).

Take a look at Denon and Beyerdynamics too...they have some nice cans.

Not an AKG fan but hey that's what opinions are all about.


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I didn't like the Senn 600 or 650. Both of them sounded dark and muddy with the headphone amp I had (Headroom MicroAmp). They also squeezed my TMJ area and were quite uncomfortable. Sold them both, got AKG K702. Tight bass, more midrange detail, smooth highs, not fatiguing to wear (but some people dislike the bumps on the underside of the headband).

I like them even better with the Burson HA-160 amp I got recently.

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I love my Senn 650s. I've paired them with a cute beyond with op amp upgrade and all is well.

I'd really like to have a Burson audio unit though. Nice.
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I like my Senn HD600s so much I have two pairs.
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I didn't like the Senn 600 or 650. Both of them sounded dark and muddy with the headphone amp I had (Headroom MicroAmp). They also squeezed my TMJ area and were quite uncomfortable. Sold them both, got AKG K702. Tight bass, more midrange detail, smooth highs, not fatiguing to wear (but some people dislike the bumps on the underside of the headband).

I like them even better with the Burson HA-160 amp I got recently.

That's interesting. I agree the HD650 sounds dark (treble recessed) to me too. I've listened to them through a number of different amps (Burson HA-160, Bottlehead Crack, WA6, Peachtree Nova, Schiit Asgard, and Nuforce Icon HD) and couldn't get the treble to come out enough for me.

I have also listened to the 702 through a Burson HA-160 and thought it sounded too bright and sibilant. I really love the HD600 though. It sounds to me like the 650 with "the veil" removed - smooth and refined, with good (but not too much) detail and a neutral freq curve. I can't imagine anyone thinking it sounds dark.

Although I am very happy with my HD600's and could be satisfied by them for the rest of my life, I want to re-visit the orthos (LCD-2, HE500, Thunderpants) now that I have more headphone listening experience under my belt. I think the orthos might have more of what I'm looking for sound-wise, but I need to spend some quality time with them to be sure.

It just goes to show how differently we all hear and how personal this hobby is!
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Did you listen to 702s after they had been broken in? Before breaking them in, they sounded thin and a little shrill.

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Did you listen to 702s after they had been broken in? Before breaking them in, they sounded thin and a little shrill.

Unfortunately, I don't know how much break in they had. They were the store demo model in the ALO Audio (Portland, OR) showroom.

Thin and shrill is definitely what I heard, but I was comparing them to the LCD-2 (the antithesis of thin and shrill LOL!) so I attributed it to that. From what you're saying, they may not have had enough hours on them after all.
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There is no place near me to audition phones. Would have lived to check out Audeze...

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There is no place near me to audition phones. Would have lived to check out Audeze...

Yeah, it's the only store of it's kind that I know of. I was in Portland for work and had heard about the store at head-fi so I stopped in. I wound up spending 3 or 4 hours there.

They had AKG (701 and 602), Denon, Grado, Shure, Ultrasone, Sennheiser, and a few others I don't recall all available for demo with a variety of display amps (Burson, Woo Audio, Peachtree, and others). A terrific setup and store that just didn't have the traffic to sustain itself.

Unfortunately, they have shut their doors. The company still exists (ALO Audio) for online business and the owner will still entertain visitors on an appointment basis, but they no longer maintain the storefront.
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There is no place near me to audition phones. Would have lived to check out Audeze...

My recommendation is to join the head-fi community. Check out the forums, post there for a bit. A) You should be able to find community members nearby who own equipment to audition, and B) you should be able to find local meet ups where people check out equipment. Just a suggestion.

I own the LCD-2s, and compared to something like the HD-800s, they are outstanding in the bass, but they are slightly recessed in the highs (very slightly) and physically very heavy headphones. Even being a head-fi fan and willing to live with a bit of discomfort for the best sound, I would warn people about the weight and size. My Senn. HD-800s are slightly clearer and faster on the top end, but the LCD-2 is very enjoyable on some types of music where the bass impact is great, without being bloated or slow. If bass impact is not your primary reason for choosing the LCD-2, I would look to other headphones. Soundwise, I can't imagine anyone being disappointed, if they have a top notch setup with LCD-2, but physically, it depends on your ability to live with large heavy headphones.
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My recommendation is to join the head-fi community. Check out the forums, post there for a bit.

I've been a member there for years, and I've posted here and there (and I sold some Senn 650s there to someone who enjoys them much more than I did). I haven't tried to locate local folks (I'm in the Cleveland Ohio area), but that's a good idea.

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Can you guys give me some advice on headphones?
My wife really wants the beats by Dre headphones, and the more I research into them, the more I think they are not that great for the money. Lots of positive reviews on amazon for some of the pricier ones, but I've read they are medicore in the highs and mids. Bass is supposed to be very good though.
My wife likes them for that reason, lots of deep heavy bass, and she mostly listens to hip-hop, r & b.
My question is for a budget of about $200-250, what would be a good alternative for bass heavy music? I want to get her the best although she is pretty convinced the Beats by Dre are the top. She isnt an audiophile by any means, but I realize the price is high because of the name and all that. I'm looking for comparable well made and high quality 'phones that would be a good alternative.
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