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post #181 of 1219 Old 01-25-2011, 12:59 PM
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Did you mean Sennheiser HD-800? If so, as far as I can tell these are not closed back. Or did you mean a different Denon model? Any thoughts on the AH-D5000? AKG K271 MkII? As far as IEMs are concerned, I own a pair of SE530s, so going backwards to the NE-6 probably won't work. From what you've posted about the HE-6, they require serious power, and I'm not quite ready for a dedicated headphone amp just yet. If they can be adequately powered by my http://www.headfonia.com/ttvj-slim-first-impression/ that would definitely be an option. I looked at the Hifiman site, but could not find any info on HE-6, let alone HE-6A. If you have links, please share. Thanks for your help so far

Yes I meant the Denon D8000. I did have a pair of the AH-D8000's very nice headphone a little heavy on the bass end, nice sound-stage (vertical) good mids and highs. They should be about the same to power as the 702's. I have a pair of 701's, but don't care that much for them.
Try HeadDirect for Hifiman. Yes the HE-6 requires very serous power, very few headphone amp will power them, most of the folks that have the HE-6 are buying speaker amps for the HE-6. The HE-6A is not out yet.
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I have a pair of 701's, but don't care that much for them.

You should sell them! How much?

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Yes I meant the Denon D8000. I did have a pair of the AH-D8000's very nice headphone a little heavy on the bass end,.

D8000's? You mean D7000

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Just trying to get some of the Gaming headphone guys over here, as they started purchasing very nice setups, and instead of getting that thread closed down (as some of the talk drifted from gaming headphones to full on DACs, Balanced sources and everything in-between...

Oh hai!

Darn this thread! I should not have found it. I am doing my absolute best not to go out and buy a pair of HD650s!

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Oh hai!

Darn this thread! I should not have found it. I am doing my absolute best not to go out and buy a pair of HD650s!

but they're amazing........
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I have to agree, they are nice headphones! I auditioned both (thanks to the kindness of PJRage) and went for the K702 (sound signature was more to my liking of Acoustic and Jazz styles), but I would like to get some HD650 (or HD600) love. I'm actually saving up for source equipment right now though. I need a DAC and Amp before a new set of headphones.

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If you are on a budget Audio-GD has a DAC/AMP that uses a Subre 32 9018 DAC on promo pricing that is a real steal, its the NFB-11.

ADG makes some very nice DAC's.
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If you are on a budget Audio-GD has a DAC/AMP that uses a Subre 32 9018 DAC on promo pricing that is a real steal, its the NFB-11.

ADG makes some very nice DAC's.
They look very nice! I might grab one of their DACs. Kind of have my heart set on a Burson HD-160 amp though.

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I am decidedly on a budget as I am married and she ensures that I am indeed on a budget. I have looked at the Audio GD equipment based on your other posts. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Get the HP1.. They ARE the rock headphones..

I searched and could not find out more about these headphones. Anyone have a more detail on them?

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Any recommendations for noise canceling headphones that wont break the bank? I keep seeing the Bose name out there, but I am apprehensive about them since they have shady practices for their speakers and home theater systems. Range would be 100-200. I know that there is beats by Dre and a few more similar items in that same range.
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Any recommendations for noise canceling headphones that wont break the bank? I keep seeing the Bose name out there, but I am apprehensive about them since they have shady practices for their speakers and home theater systems. Range would be 100-200. I know that there is beats by Dre and a few more similar items in that same range.
I bought the Audio Technica ATH-ANC7 for air travel and I am very happy with it. Its price is at the bottom of your targeted range. The Bose QuietComfort models are also very good (a couple of my colleagues use them) and popular (likely because they monopolize the ads in airline flight magazines) but they are simply not worth their 3x premium price tag. Just to be clear (since you asked your question in a Headphone Audiophile thread) you should not expect audiophile sound quality out of any of these headphones, given their price range and their key function being ambiance noise cancellation.
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I am decidedly on a budget as I am married and she ensures that I am indeed on a budget. I have looked at the Audio GD equipment based on your other posts. Thanks for the recommendation.



I searched and could not find out more about these headphones. Anyone have a more detail on them?
If you are on a budget ignore the HP1.. They retailed for 595 in the mid 70's.. Studio headphones.. Very much revered.. So much so, they sell between 1,400-1,800 on the used market.. The Grado 225 are also great for rock..IMO Only the DT48 betters them on build quality, sturdiness & durability.. Nothing glued on.. But the HP1's bass & PRAT (think head bobbing to rock) Out class the DT48.

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The current headphones that I'm currently working on sound fairly similar to the K702. Granted, they needed repair and I jimmied them to just work so I can take a quick listen, but was pretty impressed so far. I need to hurry them up and get them finished... as they belong to KBI. I can't wait to hear the final product though.
The HA160 match very well with the 701/2.. As well as the BADA12, which you can get for under 300.00 used.. It sounds way above their price point..

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The HA160 match very well with the 701/2.. As well as the BADA12, which you can get for under 300.00 used.. It sounds way above their price point..
At the price of a HA160 and DAC Magic, would it be better to consider something like the iDecco?

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At the price of a HA160 and DAC Magic, would it be better to consider something like the iDecco?

It seems geared towards the Ipod.. The DAC chip betters the ones in the DAC Magic though, & seem better.. I highly doubt the amp section would better then HA160, especially since you can amp roll to cater to your sound.. The HA160 & better dac then the Dac magic could be in order as well..

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I am decidedly on a budget as I am married and she ensures that I am indeed on a budget.

sad state of affairs

i'm married too, but i buy what i want
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It seems geared towards the Ipod.. The DAC chip betters the ones in the DAC Magic though, & seem better.. I highly doubt the amp section would better then HA160, especially since you can amp roll to cater to your sound.. The HA160 & better dac then the Dac magic could be in order as well..

That's the beauty of the iDecco.... it's more than just an ipod shuttle... it also powers small speakers, headphones and can take in multiple sources. It's gotten really good reviews too. That being said... I'd probably still go with a separate Amp, Dac and Wadia shuttle of some sort.

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sad state of affairs

i'm married too, but i buy what i want

Not to hijack this thread, but on Halloween I set up a telescope out front for kids from 3-90 years old to look through. Anyway...one of the neighbors asked my wife "You LET him spend that kind of money?"

My wife's answered "Sure. This way I know where he is every night, and he's not in a club sticking our money in another woman's underwear."
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I just moved in to a townhouse with shared walls. I can't listen to my stereo as loud as I would like. I like the Idea of wireless headphones. Is there a difference in sound quality between wired/wireless headphones?
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Trust me on this one, wired is ALWAYS better. Tried some wireless Sennheiser and could not stand the quality. Now with HD650 and Beyer DT900 im almost in heaven. I have decided to try headphones because could no longer listen my stereo at volume i wanted because of the kids 3 and 6. I say its not the same level like full range speaker but is like 80% there and the music is what most important. I say get a good pair of Senn or Beyer or if money no problem go for the big guys lilke Audeze or HD800 and a really good tube amp.
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Trust me on this one, wired is ALWAYS better. Tried some wireless Sennheiser and could not stand the quality. Now with HD650 and Beyer DT900 im almost in heaven. I have decided to try headphones because could no longer listen my stereo at volume i wanted because of the kids 3 and 6. I say its not the same level like full range speaker but is like 80% there and the music is what most important. I say get a good pair of Senn or Beyer or if money no problem go for the big guys lilke Audeze or HD800 and a really good tube amp.

Very nicely said, and yes those are very good choices for headphones.

What most folks don't understand about headphones is what they can really do, but just like a speaker system it can get expensive but still not nearly as expensive as a equally good speaker system.
The other problem is that your local best buy doesn't have the really good stuff, that can make or break a very good headphone system.

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Trust me on this one, wired is ALWAYS better. Tried some wireless Sennheiser and could not stand the quality. Now with HD650 and Beyer DT900 im almost in heaven. I have decided to try headphones because could no longer listen my stereo at volume i wanted because of the kids 3 and 6. I say its not the same level like full range speaker but is like 80% there and the music is what most important. I say get a good pair of Senn or Beyer or if money no problem go for the big guys lilke Audeze or HD800 and a really good tube amp.

And if you need some freedom in movement or flexible sitting distance you can get a 10-15' nice quality extension cable (e.g., Mogami 2549 ) for around $30.
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And if you need some freedom in movement or flexible sitting distance you can get a 10-15' nice quality extension cable (e.g., Mogami 2549 ) for around $30.

Nice thought but bad idea with the kind of headphones they are talking about.
Most of the headphones that they are talking about have plugs that you can unplug the stock cable and add a custom cable that in many cases will actuly improve the AQ of the headphones. Being custom you can get a cable up to 15', but I wouldn't avise going over 12'.

I just had a custom cable made for my HE-6's the way I wanted it made. Peter from Double Helix Cable just finished making it and sent me a picture of it. He sending it today overnight shipping.
The red and black ends (R/L Ch) are the part that attaches to my HE-6's.
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I just haven't drank the kool-aid on the special cables like Cardas. They look neat, sure. But I can't imagine they make $300 difference in sound. I feel like it's a placebo effect.
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I just haven't drank the kool-aid on the special cables like Cardas. They look neat, sure. But I can't imagine they make $300 difference in sound. I feel like it's a placebo effect.

If you're concerned about a difference in sound, why not ask the manufacturer
for their double-blind, ABX test results? I'm sure they'd be glad to demonstrate
the superiority of their products.
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but that's just here say. They want their product to be worth the money. I'd need to hear it myself, blind test. I wonder if there is a local place here I could check out cables.
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Yes you are right the Cardas will not do much for the HD-650's, however they are a nice addition to the HD-800's. I have Cardas headphone cables for both the HD-650 and the HD-800.
As I have said these kind of boutique cables and gears are not found at your local best buy.
If you do get into real audiophile gear you have the declining return factor involved, this is something that should be noted.
Also remember that your audio system is only as good as the weakest link in your chain.

btw, if you are a gamer have you tried the Crownson Shadow Stereo Motion System: A300b Amplifier with a pair TES100SS, I am not a gamer but this system will give your headphone system a much needed lift for your sub bass and it is very fast.

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Is Audio Technica ATH-M50 any good? It has a lot of good reviews at Head-fi, I'm looking for a headphone to listen to music on my iPhone. Budget around $100-$150
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I just haven't drank the kool-aid on the special cables like Cardas. They look neat, sure. But I can't imagine they make $300 difference in sound. I feel like it's a placebo effect.

X2

There is no question the cable needs to be of good quality, but some of these outrageously expensive cables make very little incremental difference.
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