Originally Posted by xianthax
I'm going to go ahead and harp on this attitude a bit more...
What i find hilarious in that CD and his self identified "subjectivist" group like to make claim that the "objectivist" group (in his words) are the ones being cocky know it alls or whatever.
I wonder, have you ever stopped and taken an outside perspective on what that means?
You think your thumbing your nose at a few people on an internet forum. Your not, you are literally telling thousands of people who've committed tens of thousands of man-hours and have tested tens or hundreds of thousands of people that they have no idea what they are talking about.
Your saying that your personal opinion is more important than decades of research into the topic involving all these people and all this work.
Yet you produce nothing but your opinion and produce no tangible deliverables to support it. Thats about as cocky and insulting as you can be.
So as a question, how exactly do you reconcile that and come up with the conclusion that we are the ones who are full of it? That we are the ones being cocky know it alls? Really I want to know.
From where i'm sitting, you've determined that you know better than thousands of specialists in the field, that you can perform better than tens or hundreds of thousands of test subjects, that all the lives spent researching this topic were wasted.
Thats a very strong and insulting claim to make if your have no intention of backing it up.
Nope; see, this is where you guys are exactly
wrong...and usually when the conversations start coming toward an end. I have LOTS of respect for people who build the gear that I can only pay to buy...whichever side of the argument they may be on. And I can respect the "scientists" and "objectivists" who actually have gear, and listen...and take a "scientific" approach to the hobby, or discipline; whatever they choose to call it.
I'm not putting them
down...and I don't really see them
putting me down either. I suspect they're too busy working
. No...what I object to are blow-hard, cut-and-paste kings; who don't have any more first-hand
experience that things "sound the same", than I
have that things "sound different". In other words, squadoosh!
Plus...you don't ever catch me saying you guys are "wrong" for thinking the way you do. See, the guys who actually have their hands in this; I may not agree with their "science", but I can respect their participation
. You guys who want to tell me I'm "wrong"...I listen
the "wrong" way...lol; all you have your hands in are your keyboards and your...
And yes; as I've said before...it's called AVS, and the S stands for Science. But the A stands for Audio
, and the V stands for Video
; so yes, you have to have gear
for your opinion or "science" to mean a damn thing to me. And you have to be willing to say "I stand by this"; otherwise, talk about an opinion that means nothing