Originally Posted by Chu Gai
It was funny to me at least, to read that the folks in the WBF forum decided to take that vinyl demagnetising device and test it. Initially I thought, well that's great. There'll be a methodical and rigorous examination that'll show the guys who made it are just whacked. But after a while, I thought to myself, why the phuck are they going through this effort? People that are hard core believers only tend to get strengthened in their beliefs while challenged. Why is this being taken seriously and why is everyone taking so damned politely and with such seriousness? Why isn't everyone, with the exception of Lavigne and a few others just laughing their royal asses off?
Why indeed. You are right. Maybe we should have laughed our behinds off. And oh, if Greg (OP in that thread) saw that as an insult to his intelligence and decided to run off the forum, all the better. I mean why wouldn't the world be a better place with less subjectivists? Take their voices away I say! The man is a lawyer. It is not like we would ever want to have a friend with that kind of skill in real life. Let's bash him to pieces so that he runs so fast while we are laughing at him that we don't even notice it! Why not indeed. There will be so many well-educated people who would be saved from audio snake oil they read online. They *need* to be saved by us. I am confident that the few of us were put on this earth for that purpose. All good I say.
But there is one fly in the ointment. This hobby is ultimately about music and the man, Greg, knows it cold. I don't care if you hate old/Jazz music. He will convert you to loving it. If you are not emotionally moved by his selections in this thread, I would venture to say you don't have a soul! http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...eos-The-Greats
I was not that much into that genre either but I was tapping my toes, and had hair on the back of neck raising as I listened to his selections one after the other. The thread went on for 40 pages! If you want to have a few hours of fun, watch those videos.
Earlier in this thread, Giz asked a key question: "When was the last time anyone here listened to the music for the sake of musical enjoyment without whacking off over their equipment and supposed peerless "knowledge?" With that one question, he made me regret arguing with him in other threads. It *is* about the music. Good music is good music even through the awful pipe of Youtube above.
Fascinatingly so, his message only resonated with two people: Terry and I. We post our favorite music we were just listening to and discussed them a bit. Everyone else went about their business as if that discussion didn't matter. Yes, it was OT. But heck, so was everything else we were arguing about! Coincident that the only two people responding positively so to his question also post on WBF? Possibly. It lacks statistical significance some would say
So yes, you do need to see the Forrest from the trees brother Chu. As a moderator on WBF, when I am asked to a gladiator fight, I think through how it can be a constructive discussion so the other side doesn't think it is a personal battle fought to death. I think what we can still learn so that it is not a waste of time. And that is precisely what we did.
Wasn't that the point of The Emperor's New Clothes? Let the pompous self-absorbed person of remarkably discriminating taste come to grips that the world looks upon him as a gullible fool.
Do you walk around in your town rounding up "gullbile fools" Chu? When you are in a restaurant, do you object to what people are eating and ordering? I was once at a sushi restaurant in Vegas. I asked how much Toro Zushi was and I was told $106 for two pieces! Even with company expense account, I wasn't going to go there. But the two girls next to me ordered it. I bet if you were there you would stop them and tell them what gullible fools they are because they could have a hamburger at a fast food restaurant for $6. And they would be even more full that way.
The emperor's new cloths? That is the thought that there is some score to be settled with those folks at any cost.
What are we as individuals prepared for as we navigate life? What lessons and common sense do we have that we can use for ourselves and impart to our children to avoid making dumb ass decisions? I'd like to think that if a hot babe strikes up a conversation that suggests hook up time, you might have the common sense to check if she's got an Adam's apple.
Don't let anyone tell you are not funny from time to time
. Also don't let anyone tell you that you don't sneak in these nasty jabs, wrapped in a towel in the middle of them. I call that the velvet hammer after a senior executive at Microsoft who had a reputation of always smiling at you including the moment in his office when he would fire you
. A joke doesn't take away the ironic nature of how you started this paragraph.
For an example of what lessons in life we need to leave for our children, read my response above. Your biggest worry should be whether they are ashamed of sharing the same last name with you after reading posts such as yours just now, not whether you proved one less person wrong on his audio beliefs. Set a good example by having a constructive discussion. Act proactively to shut down people who are not, whether they are in your camp or not. Come out on top as a human being first, and a debater of your audio point of view second. I get caught up and sometimes forget these priorities also but it is top of mind when I am not in that mood.
Why test any of this crap? It ought to be ridiculed. You don't need personal experience. You need some god damned common sense.
Said precisely how I like you to say it to make my points above
. Think about that before you write the predictable post I know you are going to write....