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post #1 of 21 Old 04-30-2012, 11:03 PM - Thread Starter
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I contacted Harman regarding the issues mentioned in HomeTheaterHiFi review of their product. This is the response I got:

"Thank you for your inquiry. It looks like the reviewer may be misinformed. We do not plan on having updates for the unit."

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I would take that with a grain of salt. I used to work for Tmobile, and often found I would give a customer some information one day, only to find that the info I had been given was incorrect but just hadn't been updated in my database yet. Or they would change some policy and what I told someone wasn't possible one day was good to go the next.
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Yea, I find it hard to believe that they would ignore it. They actually confirmed the results of the review and stated it could be corrected via firmware. Perhaps Kal Rubinson could shed some light. He reviewed it as well.
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I don't know why manufacturer does that, it is such an awesome product but they are not giving it time to be successful. It seems they have already abandon it. I bought it and return it because I needed more omph! for the Magnepans but I am looking into it again for a second system.
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I don't know why manufacturer does that, it is such an awesome product but they are not giving it time to be successful. It seems they have already abandon it. I bought it and return it because I needed more omph! for the Magnepans but I am looking into it again for a second system.

HK990 was probably a test for the market of stereo only digital receivers. I suspect that it was not very successful (too low number of units was sold) and Harman decided to eliminate this product line. That is why they do not want to spend money on further software development. I suspect that they will stop production soon (if they didn't already), and we won't see new generation of HK digital stereo receivers either.
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HK990 was probably a test for the market of stereo only digital receivers. I suspect that it was not very successful (too low number of units was sold) and Harman decided to eliminate this product line. That is why they do not want to spend money on further software development. I suspect that they will stop production soon (if they didn't already), and we won't see new generation of HK digital stereo receivers either.

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And that's a shame, imho (because I have a stereo-only setup and would like room-correction but without having to get an AVR to do so).

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You just have to get a mid to upper end avr and use it in 2 channel mode. That's what I did. I'd sure prefer a more audiophile capable integrated with room correction instead, but I guess it's not to be. The other option is an avr with pre outs and separate amp, but too many boxes for my setup.

I wonder if the latest price drop to 1795 is indicative of dumping inventory.
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You just have to get a mid to upper end avr and use it in 2 channel mode. That's what I did. I'd sure prefer a more audiophile capable integrated with room correction instead, but I guess it's not to be. The other option is an avr with pre outs and separate amp, but too many boxes for my setup.

I wonder if the latest price drop to 1795 is indicative of dumping inventory.

Understood. But I don't want a mid-to-upper end AVR. They're too big and too expensive for my tastes. I want something more compact and cheaper. I was hoping the HK990 would sell well and would lead to some lower-cost varieties down the line. I guess it's not going to happen.

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Understood. But I don't want a mid-to-upper end AVR. They're too big and too expensive for my tastes. I want something more compact and cheaper. I was hoping the HK990 would sell well and would lead to some lower-cost varieties down the line. I guess it's not going to happen.

It was not going tho happen. Upper-mid-range AV receiver plus stereo power amp were equal the price of HK990. If it was offered under $1000 (better $600-800), it could have chance. At $2000 you can get top of the line AVR with many more features and similar level of sound quality.
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You just have to get a mid to upper end avr and use it in 2 channel mode. That's what I did. I'd sure prefer a more audiophile capable integrated with room correction instead, but I guess it's not to be. The other option is an avr with pre outs and separate amp, but too many boxes for my setup.

I wonder if the latest price drop to 1795 is indicative of dumping inventory.

If this is all they can do on closeout, Sherwood 972 is still a much better deal today.
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Hk-990 will be tough to beat at around $700 - $800. But at the current price point it has many alternatives. I don't know how much it cost to make such a piece, but it sure was a great idea, I think NAD is doing similar experiment with their c390 dd.
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What are the chances of seeing this HK -990 stereo amp in a firesale before the summer?
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Watch their ebay store. They've been selling the HK990CD player at very good prices for some time now.

I had the 990 integrated for a while - very nice sounding unit but I just don't have the room for 2 separate systems. It was a toss-up between 2.1 and 5.1 but I like my 5.1 setup. Actually its 5.4 - 4 subs.

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So, which room correcting AVRs are you guys considering for your 2.0 setups? I used to come across some that gave 2 channel music listening a SIGNIFICANT watt boost...I wish I had jotted those models down, because it's a nice compromise. "Buy this multi-channel receiver that you don't need, but we'll make it worth your while by giving you more power in 2.0 mode".
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Or what about Preamps w/ Audyssey/room-correction? I just ran across the Marantz AV7005 on a local stereo store's site and it's got Audyssey and lots of other features. Then we'd only have to pay for a 2 channel amp or 2 monoblocks.
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So, which room correcting AVRs are you guys considering for your 2.0 setups? I used to come across some that gave 2 channel music listening a SIGNIFICANT watt boost...I wish I had jotted those models down, because it's a nice compromise. "Buy this multi-channel receiver that you don't need, but we'll make it worth your while by giving you more power in 2.0 mode".

I use a denon 3311ci. Has tons of features. Airplay, internet radio, hd radio, plays flac or wav or an ipod from usb drive. If you want to use it as a prepro with an external amp then consider the 4311, which has a preamp mode that can shut off the maps and use the preouts. I use it strictly for 2.0 channel. although I'm debating upgrading to tower speakers vs adding a sub.
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I use a denon 3311ci. Has tons of features. Airplay, internet radio, hd radio, plays flac or wav or an ipod from usb drive. If you want to use it as a prepro with an external amp then consider the 4311, which has a preamp mode that can shut off the maps and use the preouts. I use it strictly for 2.0 channel. although I'm debating upgrading to tower speakers vs adding a sub.

4311 by itself will likely sound better that OP's current amplifier. But he will likely need small monitor or TV to make setup easier.
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I just pulled the trigger on the HK990 to end my torture, but really because I wanted the HK990 all along, faults and all. BestBuyCanada's price dipped and after I bought the 1 unit its sister company, Future Shop, showed zero stock. So for all of Canada, the 2 major electronics chains had 1 unit available. And if you count the 1 unit on AmazonCanada that sold last week, my entire country had 2 Harman Kardon HK990s available to the masses (at the $2500 + taxes price point the majority of the time). And none of the above will be restocking. This is why I couldn't go w/ Denon or something else...sometimes you have to play with the cards you're dealt if you want to buy from an authorized dealer.

How long is the warranty on this sucker, anyway?

EDIT: Is EzSet/EQ room optimization good? How would it compare to Audyssey?
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I would take that with a grain of salt. I used to work for Tmobile, and often found I would give a customer some information one day, only to find that the info I had been given was incorrect but just hadn't been updated in my database yet. Or they would change some policy and what I told someone wasn't possible one day was good to go the next.

Just out of curiosity I emailed HK and got a similar reply. They can't find the engineer who agreed with the FW fault in the room correction and state there is no fault. No plans for any FW upgrade. Unfortunate. I'm looking for something with a little more oomph to drive my soon to arrive supercharged song towers.
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EDIT: Is EzSet/EQ room optimization good? How would it compare to Audyssey?

Better late than never:  EZSetEQ is effective but, imho, not so much as Audyssey.  OTOH, it is more adjustable than Audyssey.


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