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post #1 of 9 Old 10-02-2012, 06:42 PM - Thread Starter
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Hello all,

I've decided to venture into vinyl and just bought a vintage Bang and Olufsen TX2 turntable. Do you guys think I'll need a preamp between my 2100 and TX2?

Enjoy the music!

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What's a 2100?

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If it's the Parasound 2100 preamplifier you're referring to then no. You won't need a separate phono preamp.

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The 2100 has a phono preamp, but not a very good one.

If you get the Musical Fidelity V-LPS preamp, the sound quality will be improved considerably.
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I haven't heard that many negative comments about the 2100's phono preamp. Unless you have a particularly finicky MC cart it should suffice.

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The 2100 has a phono preamp, but not a very good one.

what basis do you have for your statement?
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The 2100 has a phono preamp, but not a very good one.

???????????

http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/review/2100-2250.pdf

"A phono stage based on the well-received Zphono preamp is included."

I found that the Zphono is indeed highly regarded:

http://www.stereophile.com/content/entry-level-15

"When the music emerged, I heard sinuous strings sweeping across a big, wide soundstage; percussive acoustic guitar churning from the left channel; eerily realistic tambourine coming from the right channel; bass and drums at the rear of the stage, presented in a way that was clear, powerful, and easy to follow; that surreal bowed saw wavering and warbling, sounding like a choir of weeping spirits; and, finally, the fragile, childlike voice singing "Time, all th' long red lines / that take control / of all th' smokelike streams / that flow into your dreams . . ."

Also:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/test-report-parasound-zphono-usb-phono-preamp

http://news.cnet.com/2300-13645_3-10011744-3.html

etc., etc.

A general comment. Building a fine MM RIAA phono preamp is pretty much a cookbook project. Excellent chips for the purpose such as the 5532 have been around for decades. Good discrete circuits for the purpose preceded that. A critical performance parameter is the accuracy of the equalization network, but that problem was solved with the publication of a well-known and widely applauded JAES article on the topic a few decades ago.
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what basis do you have for your statement?

Not a Parasound dealer? ;-)
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Not a Parasound dealer? ;-)
And probably payment for each time he mentions Mainly Foul products (amongst others) on forums.
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