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Noobie here looking to make a decent system for STRICTLY listening to music. A pure surround sound may happen in the future but probably not for a while as I am living at home in a relatively small room.

I was looking to spend about $2000 total on a pair of floorstanding speakers and a receiver. I narrowed my searches down to Klipsche RF 82 IIs. So that leaves me with $800 for a receiver, I thought about getting an A/V receiver but seeing as I don't watch movies all that much, not a very big t.v. (32 inch 720 samsung), nor the plans to build a surround sound system any time soon. That I would be better off buying a very nice stereo receiver and building a full 5.1-7.1 later in life when I have my own place and a nicer t.v. to utilize it all. I'm not a huge movie fanatic and would probably only ever set up a full surround sound if I had a near 6 fig income and was married and already established, so right now I just want a really nice music set up because that's much more important to me.

So my question is whats the best bang for buck? I don't care about being able to wirelessly stream music to my receiver, and my only constraint is that I be able to hardwire my output from my computer to the receiver for when I want to listen to my .flac music instead of a cd/record
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Even if you don't plan on having a multichannel system in the foreseeable future, an AVR gives you at least one very useful feature: room correction, which will adapt your system to the sonic peculiarities of whatever room you place it in. (And every room has sonic peculiarities.) Given that you're young and may be moving around a fair bit in the next several years, having the flexibility to adjust your system to each room will be a great benefit. So don't rule it out.

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Look at a marantz sr8002 that is for sale on Audiogon for $560.... It is EXC for stereo music for an AVR...
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Look at a marantz sr8002 that is for sale on Audiogon for $560.... It is EXC for stereo music for an AVR...
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Is a stereo receiver the same as a stereo amp? Just out of curiosity
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Is a stereo receiver the same as a stereo amp? Just out of curiosity

No. A stereo receiver has a amp, preamp, and tuner. A stereo amp just gives the powers speakers, you still would need to get a separate stereo preamp, and tuner if you want am/fm radio.
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I'm not a radio listener, only ever plan on listening to my own media. In the future if I ever get XM radio or something I'll buy a tuner then...

So I have about $1000 to spend on Stereo receiver or separate amp/preamp, whats my best choice?

because I've actually found the RF 82 IIs fro $100 less than what klipsche's site is selling them for.

I've thought about the A/v receiver but every where I'm seeing that for strictly 2 channel system a stereo amp is the way to go because you get best bang for buck FOR JUST AUDIO
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I'm not a radio listener, only ever plan on listening to my own media. In the future if I ever get XM radio or something I'll buy a tuner then...

So I have about $1000 to spend on Stereo receiver or separate amp/preamp, whats my best choice?

because I've actually found the RF 82 IIs fro $100 less than what klipsche's site is selling them for.

I've thought about the A/v receiver but every where I'm seeing that for strictly 2 channel system a stereo amp is the way to go because you get best bang for buck FOR JUST AUDIO

You have a ton of choices. You can find some pretty good receivers/integrated amps(a amp and preamp in one)/seperates(amp/preamp). I would do some more research and see what people generally pair klipsch with. I know the klipsch RF-82II's are very bright sounding (due to their horn tweeter design) so I would recommend finding something that will color the sound and tone down the brightness a bit. But then again, some people like the brightness of the klipsch so they find a good amp/receiver/whatever to complement them.

If you don't plan on getting a subwoofer I would go the integrated amp/amp&preamp route. If you really want a subwoofer go with a receiver since they do have bass management.

I have heard Klipsch with Yamaha Receivers and I think they are a pretty good match. To get the most of your money, try and find a unit that is used. If you must buy new, I think the Yamaha RX-A820 sounds pretty good with the Klipsch. We have the 82's on display powered by the Yamaha I mentioned. The only way you will know which is best is by actually testing the speakers with a amp/receiver, or reading reviews. Good luck, sorry I don't have any specific recommendations.

Fry's Electronics carries Klipsch below retail. If you are in the San Jose, CA location you can visit me at the Brokaw store and I will gladly give you an audition.

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If I had a $2000 budget, I would personally find some used towers for $1500, and blow $500 on a used AVR or integrated. The HK 3490 is a very highly regarded Stereo Receiver due to its price range, build quality, and sound quality. I would look into that, its around $350-$400 and you can blow the rest of your money on some good speakers. Last on you could always sell the 3490 and get something better when you feel the need to upgrade. I have played with the 3490 and I really liked it. If I didn't get my tax return I probably would have gotten it over my Rotel setup. Good luck.
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Klipsch speakers aren't difficult to drive at all. I think you would be fine with a good receiver that gives you options to expand to a surround setup in the future and something with Audyssey room EQ, like a mid-level Denon, Marantz, or Onkyo AVR. I think a separate power and pre-amp may be overkill, but if you want some snob appeal there are plenty of nice integrated amps around - the Marantz PM6004, PM8004, the aforementioned HK3490 or HK990, just to name a few.

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Thanks for all the advice guys, unfortunately I live in New Jersey so I cannot take you up on your over Albert. I've read about the HK 3490 before, and I've found it on Amazing for >$400 with free shipping. I've been reading a lot more about Klipches Reference series and a lot of people say they're great for HT purposes but no so much music. If I do go the HK 3940 route, I could throw in another $100 and get the Heresy III Floorstanding Speakers, thoughts?

Say I was to buy used speakers what would recommend?

I have quite a bit of time still, as I am waiting for my tax return. More research needs to be done

I understand I am not going to get some uber set up that would make an audiophile cream in their pants but I really just want something that I can listen to records/cds on and really be able to appreciate and learn from to be able to make very good system when I am older.
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Noobie here looking to make a decent system for STRICTLY listening to music.

So my question is whats the best bang for buck? I don't care about being able to wirelessly stream music to my receiver, and my only constraint is that I be able to hardwire my output from my computer to the receiver for when I want to listen to my .flac music instead of a cd/record

The best bang for a buck system has the following components:

(1) Media player, e.g. CD player or Blu Ray

(2) multichannel AVR

(3) pair of L & R speakers

(4) healthy Subwoofer
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fwiw,just a few recommendations; denon avr1712 $300 at accesories4less (has bass management and 2 ch. dedicated menu for strictly 2 ch. stereo, audyssey multieq xt a great option to get the best sound in your room) something 2 channel recievers do not have.imo this will give you just as good or better sound than any thing listed so farand a bit cheaper to put the money into the speakers the most important part of your system; where the real quality of sound is produced.

pair of kef q300 bookshelves $470 at ac4l $100 for some nice stands
or if your stuck on towers
pair of focal 814v $800 at ac4l

outlaw lfm -ex1 sub$650

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What kind of music do u like, and at what volume? I have rf82iis as mains in ht setup. I used to run them off onkyo receiver 705, 100wpc. Plenty loud but no thindering bass. I now run them off nad 275bee 150wpc. Night and day difference! You can feel the bass and much more driver movement. A good power amp is a must for music, depending on your tastes.

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Sorry Robbie, I didn't see I received a reply to this thread until now

For an update I still haven't bought anything yet because i moved and was out of work for a few months so I had to use my reserves but I have a job now that seems to be locked in place. So I can start saving again...

But to answer your question Rob, I like listening to 60's and 70's rock...I guess its basically classic rock...Beatles,Stones, Berry White, Zeppelin, music like that

I'm going to be spend more on this setup now, and while I'm still heavily interested in the RF 82 IIs... I want to go preamp/amp instead of a receiver...

Suggestions? I am open to other speakers so long as they're tower, my room isn't small so I can't have super huge speakers
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I would go with the Yamaha Aventage RX-A2020 for $999 (orig price $1700), 140w/per hannel. So you don't really need an external amp for now. Yamaha's have a warm sound to it, it would go well with the rf-82ii. Personally I have the rf82ii with an Onkyo NR-818 135w/per ch, naturally in my opinion Onkyo has a bright sound, but i do like the brightness, I dont find it too bright at all, its a matter of preference, and if you dont want it too bright, dont toe the speakers in too much


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Sorry Robbie, I didn't see I received a reply to this thread until now

For an update I still haven't bought anything yet because i moved and was out of work for a few months so I had to use my reserves but I have a job now that seems to be locked in place. So I can start saving again...

But to answer your question Rob, I like listening to 60's and 70's rock...I guess its basically classic rock...Beatles,Stones, Berry White, Zeppelin, music like that

I'm going to be spend more on this setup now, and while I'm still heavily interested in the RF 82 IIs... I want to go preamp/amp instead of a receiver...

Suggestions? I am open to other speakers so long as they're tower, my room isn't small so I can't have super huge speakers
I listen to a huge variety of music, some with a lot of bass. I also however like a lot of pink floyd, led zep and have just started listening to some classical... I am biased towards klipsch and am currently running rf82ii as mains in theater setup and synergy f30 in 2 channel in my bedroom. I also have a pair of cerwin vega v10f which arent great, but do the job as surrounds at the moment. I mix and match these setups coz I have an addiction lol. My 2ch setup is an amc3050a integrated, running as pre only into my nad275. I like my 2channel setup better for music even tho the synergy arent as good as the reference. Cant really explain.. but both sound great.

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I do have now Klipsch F-3 (like new F-30) and I'm looking to buy RF-82II if you have a both of them can you really tell different between them? for music ,movies and TV. I do have new Denon X4000 and I believe it is powerful enough to drive them right? Thanks Paul


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I do have now Klipsch F-3 (like new F-30) and I'm looking to buy RF-82II if you have a both of them can you really tell different between them? for music ,movies and TV. I do have new Denon X4000 and I believe it is powerful enough to drive them right? Thanks Paul
The 2 speakers are similar. The reference IS better, and you CAN tell. But I have nothing bad to say about f30. What other ht speakers do you have?? Do you have a decent center?

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I tend to agree with Arny. A sub would be a terrific addition to a stereo only system. I've been doing it that way since before AVR's were invented. I also agree with those who suggest getting an AVR. My reasoning is that you can get everything a stereo integrated amp can do and much more for a similar price. It will also solve one issue if you ever decide to engage in surround sound. Get a modest, entry level AVR (most of the main stream AVR makers have them) and then use the rest of your budget for a subwoofer.
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All what I have is Klipsch synergy 5.1 ( 2xF-3, 1xC-2, 2xS-2) and klipsch 12 synergy sub. I'm thinking to get RF-82II and RC-62II for center maybe?


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All what I have is Klipsch synergy 5.1 ( 2xF-3, 1xC-2, 2xS-2) and klipsch 12 synergy sub. I'm thinking to get RF-82II and RC-62II for center maybe?
If you like ht, I would suggest the rc62ii and a better sub before rf82ii. I used to run rc62ii between my f30 and they sound great together. The rc62ii is a lot better than any synergy center. Try the klipsch owners thread on here. There is another guy who runs rc62ii between kf28 which are basically the same as f30. Be warned though. If you upgrade 1 speaker you may want to upgrade all. It happened to me haha.

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I just got a deal for RF82Ii and rc-62II for $900 so I think it is great so I'm going to buy it. I will look like stupid but what is HT? What kind of sub would you recommend whis those reference Klipsch speakers? Yes you right ones you start it is a long run :-).

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I just got a deal for RF82Ii and rc-62II for $900 so I think it is great so I'm going to buy it. I will look like stupid but what is HT? What kind of sub would you recommend whis those reference Klipsch speakers? Yes you right ones you start it is a long run :-).
Sorry. HT= home theater😊. The rf82ii and rc62ii are the perfect match. What are you going to do with f3? I use my f30s as surrounds and they are great. Klipsch are great for speakers, not the best in subs. Come over to klipsch owners thread. We will welcome you there. Most of the guys suggest svs. I run diy subs but they are not for everybody (larger than my rf82ii)

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I'm not sure I was thinking to sell them all whole 5.1 set + sub but maybe I will keep F-30 for surround. Just dont have enough room for it now. I'm going to find Klipsch owneds treat s and going to enjoy it, thanks. I read some reviews about SVS sub and they looks great only bad is it is online only but I even dont have chance to saw Klipsch reference speaker also but like you said I believe it is great update to my HT smile.gif

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I'm not sure I was thinking to sell them all whole 5.1 set + sub but maybe I will keep F-30 for surround. Just dont have enough room for it now. I'm going to find Klipsch owneds treat s and going to enjoy it, thanks. I read some reviews about SVS sub and they looks great only bad is it is online only but I even dont have chance to saw Klipsch reference speaker also but like you said I believe it is great update to my HT smile.gif
Yes f3 are quite massive for surrounds but in my opinion will outdo anything. Look forward to hearing what you decide

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