Originally Posted by dannylightning
seems pretty logical that one type may sound better than another type. that is my opinion and its not gonna change
Danny, you seem fairly level headed. A $13k cable seems absurd to you, as it should. It also seems logical to you that various cables, amps, dacs, etc might all sound different since they have different designs of very complex (to you, me, and most people) circuits, use different components, heck... may even measure differently. Common sense, right?
I urge you though to examine your quote above and really think about it. Would your mind really never change? Chances are it might if confronted with adequate proof. So ask yourself what sort of proof it might take.
Some people are happy to read about the research done in human hearing and human psychology, and accept that we often "hear" differences which simply have no physical reality. Others need first hand evidence. They need to experience the proof themselves. If you are of that mindset (and nothing wrong with that), then I ask you a vital question... do you believe knowing the brand of a component is required to properly evaluate the sound of that component?
Most audiophiles would respond "of course not" but then of course they have known the brand of every component they have ever evaluated prior to listening. They just don't believe it is an influencing factor, thus have never thought to "not know." If you, like so many others, think it obvious that knowing the brand shouldn't be required, then please take the next crucial leap and do a little reading about how to perform a test where you don't know, and what happens in such tests. Maybe even try it for yourself or with a friend.
I say all of this not to preach, lecture, criticize, etc but because it has real world usefulness. Usefulness to you. And I like to help people. If you were to come to accept that dacs, amps, cables etc were audibly identical if designed to a minimum quality standard, then the dollar savings to you are potentially huge. You can now focus your future purchases (or even sell old expensive gear, like I have in the past) on things that truly impact your system and experience. Speakers. Room. Room treatments. EQ, surround processing, etc. More movies and music. Audio jewelry is fine if you recognize it as jewelry... something for looks, not sound.
Again, your posts hint of a very level headed guy in there that may be receptive to a little steering. Not everyone is with wasting the effort on. I hope you are, and i assure you that losing the "innocence" of audiophilia detracts nothing from the joy of the hobby.