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post #1 of 10 Old 03-19-2013, 01:13 PM - Thread Starter
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Preface:

I am going to do one of two things, and I would appreciate it if this discussion to be limited to their relative merits, rather than including suggestions about alternatives. However, different configurations of the same products would be relevant.

Options:

1: Purchase a second Furman Elite 15 PFi, one Pangea AC-9 cord, and rack space (~$1000)
2: Purchase one Audioquest NRG-10 power cord (~$500)

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I need to plug two Martin Logan Summit X and one Simaudio W-5 into power products that provide current reserves. I use Pangea AC-9 power cords end-to-end, and the Furman Elite 15 PFi I currently own can support only two of their oversize plugs in its four high-current outlets. A smaller plug would fit in addition to a pair of AC-9s, and the cable I would choose for that application (connecting the W-5) is the Audioquest NRG-10. The power going into the system comes from a PS Audio Power Plant Premier, again connected by an AC-9.
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I would go with the $1000 one. It has to be twice as good as the $500 one doesn't it?
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It all sounds to me like a complete waste of money, unless you have identified unusual extreme problems with your local commercial AC power source. And by the way; those products DO NOT provide any "current reserves"; that is not their intended function, nor are they designed to do so; that demonstrates a lack of knowledge of these products.

All high-quality audio gear has power supplies that are able to filter and rectify even poor-quality AC into pure DC for the use of the circuits, and the idea that external power filtration or conditioning units are useful is nonsense IMO. A fairly basic knowledge of power-supply design is all that is needed to realize the truth of that.

Premium power cords....don't get me started on how silly that is!

That is like buying another transmission for your Ferrari or Corvette because you suspect that the factory engineers didn't put an adequate one in the car.

I have over $20K invested in my high-quality audio system, and not one penny of it went into any power conditioners or other useless products. I only spend the money when I HEAR the improvement in sound quality, and none of those products have ever been of any use in that area.

The MERIT of all of it is ZERO, unless you know of some electrical engineering principles that have yet to be discovered.
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Option 2 is best, because it means you're only throwing away $500 instead of $1000.
Alternatively save your money altogether. Power cables are jewelry at best, they do not make any difference to the sound.

And power conditioning shouldn't affect sound either. Many power conditioners are total scams and don't even perform the functions that they claim. (i.e. "cleaner" power - whether you believe it to make a difference or not)

This is what $1500 gets you from Shunyata:
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And the $3300 Nordost Thor:
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This is what $1500 gets you from Shunyata:

OMG! But why am I not surprised?

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This is what $1500 gets you from Shunyata:
It's nothing but an outlet-strip in a metal box!
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