Originally Posted by hogger129
Originally Posted by bad1978
I'm a newbie to all this, but I've become really obsessed with high-quality music for the last few months. Be gentle with me, as I may not understand a lot of the really esoteric techno-jargon.
So, I'm working with an LG BP730 Blu-Ray player and Pioneer VSX-1123 receiver.
It seems that no matter what, a ripped file just doesn't have the range as just playing the CD. Even if I play the WAV file straight from the USB port on the Blu-Ray player or the receiver. Apple Lossless files played straight from the receiver sound terrible (so much treble!)
Am I playing a losing game, here? Is it just impossible to accurately recreate CD sound on a computer file?
I would question what you're using to make the rips. Use something like Exact Audio Copy or dBpoweramp. These are secure rippers that will ensure you are getting a perfect copy of the CD.
I would question how he is doing the comparison. It is pretty difficult to do a level-matched, time-synched, blind test of these two particular things
If you question your rips, you do have some options. The basic technique is to do the ripping process twice, prefereably using two different means. Different software, a different PC. whatever. You can use a flash drive to get both ripped files onto the same PC, and then you can compare the two files using either FC which is part of many windows computers, or the file comparison utilities built into EAC or CDEX and possibly other software.
The basic idea is that the errors that come from a poor job of ripping tend to be random, so any consistent result is also probably a perfect result.
That Pioneer receiver is supposed to be pretty good, so I doubt there is any jitter in your playback hardware.
Besides Jitter is not usually an issue when comparing a ripped file to the optical drive in a computer. The optical drive in a modern computer is essentially ripped to play the music on it.
That said, I have noticed that iTunes rips don't sound very good compared to the original CD or my rips made with EAC. The iTunes rips sound flat like all the life is sucked out of it.
As you probably know, the big variable here is that most people who rip CDs with iTunes make lossy files, and lossy files particularly those at bitrates below 256k bits per second, can sound different because of problems with lossy compression at low bitrates.
I would try making a rip using Exact Audio Copy. You can set it up to rip to FLAC by using the Hydrogenaudio setup guide. Otherwise you can just rip straight to WAV and see how they sound played off of that USB drive.
In theory, a lossless file = source. I doubt your playback hardware is the issue. I'd say it's what you're using to make the rips.
Or the parameters you choose. Unless you rip to a .wav file, audible differences due to procedureal choices are possible if not likely.