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I have been using in bi-amp mode a nad 3300 and 2100. I was wondering if there is a better amplification for less than $1000 that I should consider and that would provide a significant difference. I am not trying to get an upgrade for the sake of spending money. I am using Martin Logan aeon. Thank you,
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I have been using in bi-amp mode a nad 3300 and 2100. I was wondering if there is a better amplification for less than $1000 that I should consider and that would provide a significant difference. I am not trying to get an upgrade for the sake of spending money. I am using Martin Logan aeon. Thank you,

Significant difference in what? Guessing that you mean sound quality then the answer is no. You are trying to upgrade just for the sake of spending money.
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Thank you for your answer. Yes , I was asking about sound quality difference and i am not interested in upgrading for the sake of spending money. Thank you again,
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The NAD gear you have is probably better than anything you can get for under $2000 in a separate amp and preamp. It is not too bad.

On the other hand, for $1500 you can get a Musical Fidelity M3i integrated amplifier, which I know from personal experience has a clearer more musical sound quality than the NAD gear. Been there, done that.

It is a cut above anything else in its price class IMO for sonic purity and listening to well-recorded music (although Arcam is right up there too).

You have some very fine speakers there and one of the better integrated amplifiers would really help them to perform a lot better. The NAD gear is fairly good, but not really in the same sonic class as the speakers.

They don't need a huge amount of power, and the M3i has close to 100 watts at 4 ohms.
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Thank you so much for your message. This is exactly the information I was looking for. As I was not looking to invest $1500 or so in an amplifier and although I heard great things about musical fidelity, would you advise to go for used material such as accuphase or mcintosch? Thank you again.
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I have been using in bi-amp mode a nad 3300 and 2100. I was wondering if there is a better amplification for less than $1000 that I should consider and that would provide a significant difference. I am not trying to get an upgrade for the sake of spending money. I am using Martin Logan aeon. Thank you,

Relevant parameters include how far you sit from the speakers in your preferred listening position, and what average and peak SPLs you listen at.

With 89 dB/W sensitivity and rated for "4, 6, or 8" ohm speakers, your Aeon's aren't particularly tough loads.

60 wpc isn't a lot of power. Your speakers can handle much more power if it is required by your listening preferences.

If you don't have a SPL meter with a peak hold facility - they are easy enough to obtain, for example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8928-Decibel-Meter-Digital-Accurate-Sound-noise-pressure-Level-tester-40-130-db-/271167212819



Just put it where you sit and punch a few buttons, listen to some music as loud as you like, and read the digits and post them...
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The room is about 500 sqf and the typical listening distance is about 10 -12 ft from the speakers. Depending on the source and the type of music the volume button is between 1/3 and 1/2. I use the two amps in vertical bi amp and was advised not to bridge them. I am happy but provided the age of the amps I was wondering if there is a better solution at a reasonnable cost. Thank you for your time and expertise.
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The room is about 500 sqf and the typical listening distance is about 10 -12 ft from the speakers. Depending on the source and the type of music the volume button is between 1/3 and 1/2. I use the two amps in vertical bi amp and was advised not to bridge them. I am happy but provided the age of the amps I was wondering if there is a better solution at a reasonnable cost.
Given what you've described, there probably isn't a better solution even at unreasonable cost. You have enough power. You're fine.

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Nad Martin Logan match

As my 2200 was getting very hot in bi-amp configuration, I switched to a c270 and 1155 preamp thinking I would not draw as much (Or the same for higher capabilities). I am kind of missing the biamp (probably more me in my head than through my ears) and nad does not recommend bi-amp on 4 ohm speakers. That might be why the 2200 got so hot.
Should I pursue any other idea at a reasonable price or stick to what I have and be happy. Thank you
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As my 2200 was getting very hot in bi-amp configuration, I switched to a c270 and 1155 preamp thinking I would not draw as much (Or the same for higher capabilities). I am kind of missing the biamp (probably more me in my head than through my ears) and nad does not recommend bi-amp on 4 ohm speakers. That might be why the 2200 got so hot.
Should I pursue any other idea at a reasonable price or stick to what I have and be happy. Thank you

"As my 2200 was getting very hot "

Understood. I had thermal shutdown with my Hegel H100 one day driving my ML EM ESLs, and true, driving them hard. And it sure has run hot on other occasions. I've had ML ESLs off and on since they've been a company plus just about every other ESL on the market since 1959 with the exception of King Sound and Acoustat. They are a hard load to drive given that impedance can drop to as low as a 1/2 ohm at higher frequencies. Plus, they are the most revealing type of speaker on the market so if you're going to hear amp to amp difference, this is where it's going to happen.
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"As my 2200 was getting very hot "

Understood. I had thermal shutdown with my Hegel H100 one day driving my ML EM ESLs, and true, driving them hard. And it sure has run hot on other occasions. I've had ML ESLs off and on since they've been a company plus just about every other ESL on the market since 1959 with the exception of King Sound and Acoustat. They are a hard load to drive given that impedance can drop to as low as a 1/2 ohm at higher frequencies. Plus, they are the most revealing type of speaker on the market so if you're going to hear amp to amp difference, this is where it's going to happen.
Thank you for your message. Sorry the nad I had was the 2100 and not the 2200. It matched the 3300 ampli section. As the 2100 was running hot I switched

to a c270 witch is supposed to adapt to the load and paired it with a 1155. Do you see any progress I should be making without spending $$$$? Thank you,
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Thank you for your message. Sorry the nad I had was the 2100 and not the 2200. It matched the 3300 ampli section. As the 2100 was running hot I switched

to a c270 witch is supposed to adapt to the load and paired it with a 1155. Do you see any progress I should be making without spending $$$$? Thank you,

There are several moderate price amp recent suggestions over here in this thread that might work OK.

Talk me into a $800-1000 power amp

I'm going through the same thing too. I think the Hegel is a great sounding integrated, but I need something with a little more meat on its bones.
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