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bigcam406's Avatar bigcam406 10:35 PM 01-12-2014
just received an email from HK,2 new receivers available for pre order.the 3700 170 watt network receiver and the 3770,240 watt network receiver.dont know when they're going to be available as of yet,but you can preorder.just thought i'd share.....

glangford's Avatar glangford 04:06 AM 01-13-2014
These would appear to be the replacements for the long running 3390 and 3490 recievers. The new ones are 85 and 120 wpc. Same apparent specs with some improved streaming and connectivity options. The 3490 has been a workhorse, I'm sure it's replacement will as well. Now if they had just put room correction in it like the 990, I'd be sold for my 2 channel setup.
arnyk's Avatar arnyk 05:56 AM 01-13-2014
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just received an email from HK,2 new receivers available for pre order.the 3700 170 watt network receiver and the 3770,240 watt network receiver.dont know when they're going to be available as of yet,but you can preorder.just thought i'd share.....

The detailed info is here:

http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/HK_3700_SS_EN.pdf

I'm sure the dealers love these because of the > AVR prices for < AVR value. They schlep people into them based on simplicity and questionable claims about amplifier sound quality, and then thepeople are back looking for the missing features in a year or two or sooner. Can we all say "niche market".?
Badouri's Avatar Badouri 07:02 AM 01-13-2014
http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/HK_3770_SS_EN.pdf

Weight:6kg so i would guess they now use a switching power supply. No "pre out / main in".

3770

3490

arnyk's Avatar arnyk 07:37 AM 01-13-2014
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http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/HK_3770_SS_EN.pdf

Weight:6kg so i would guess they now use a switching power supply. No "pre out / main in".

I searched the web for pix of the internals, no dice.

I think that they can do a 120 watts per channel, two channels driven @ 6/8 ohms, 20Hz – 20kHz, <0.07% THD with a regular iron transformer at that weight. A swtich mode supply would cut weight to about half that. Their target market is probably too conservative for a swtichmode anything.

For example the Behringer NU DSP 1000 does 160/320/520 WPC at 8/4/.2 ohms and weighs only 3.1 KG.

http://www.behringer.com/assets/NU1000_NU3000_NU6000_NU12000_NU1000DSP_NU3000DSP_NU6000DSP_NU12000DSP_WebBrochure.pdf
Knucklehead90's Avatar Knucklehead90 07:19 PM 01-13-2014
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These would appear to be the replacements for the long running 3390 and 3490 recievers. The new ones are 85 and 120 wpc. Same apparent specs with some improved streaming and connectivity options. The 3490 has been a workhorse, I'm sure it's replacement will as well. Now if they had just put room correction in it like the 990, I'd be sold for my 2 channel setup.
I agree. I think HK is missing the boat by not including room correction in these new receivers. And no DAC in the lower model -- WTH were they thinking?

I have had a 3390 in the bedroom setup for about 3-4 years. The only reason I replaced it with a Denon AVR was because of the bass management. I got tired of hearing that 60-75hz peak resonating all round the room. The Denon 1713 killed that peak. The sound is much more balanced and the peaks are gone. I could not get rid of that with the HK's full range 'sub' jack. Dicking around with two dials on the sub won't cut the peaks. The AVR did the trick.

I have the HK990 in the living room. The job it did in integrating a single 12" sealed sub and speakers in my room was nothing short of awesome. As good as any AVR or processor I've used prior and I've had my share of Audyssey XT and XT32 and YPAO machines.

In case you don't know HK is selling refurbished HK990s for a great price when you consider what some pay for separates - a DAC preamp and amp take up lots of real estate. And depending on what audio gear you're looking at you can save money by going the one box solution. I don't have the room in the audio rack for all that stuff. Been there - done that! A single box solution for me!

Some call the HK990 an expensive and unnecessary expense that a cheap AVR can easily match. But not many cheap AVRs can power my 4ohm speakers to my satisfaction. I've tried it and didn't like it. And thats the difference. But the choice is mine. Find fault with that if you like - I don't care.
eljr's Avatar eljr 07:31 PM 01-13-2014
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The detailed info is here:

http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/HK_3700_SS_EN.pdf

I'm sure the dealers love these because of the > AVR prices for < AVR value. They schlep people into them based on simplicity and questionable claims about amplifier sound quality, and then thepeople are back looking for the missing features in a year or two or sooner. Can we all say "niche market".?

why pay for what you don't need?
bigcam406's Avatar bigcam406 09:37 PM 01-13-2014
agreed
commsysman's Avatar commsysman 08:09 AM 01-14-2014
B & H Photo still has some 3390 receivers available for $240, but the 3490 is only available direct from Harman-Kardon's website at full price, $449.

Everyone else seems to be out of stock.
FMW's Avatar FMW 10:00 AM 01-14-2014
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why pay for what you don't need?[/quote

Because you don't have to. There are all kinds of AVRs for less money.

arnyk's Avatar arnyk 11:00 AM 01-14-2014
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The detailed info is here:

http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/HK_3700_SS_EN.pdf

I'm sure the dealers love these because of the > AVR prices for < AVR value. They schlep people into them based on simplicity and questionable claims about amplifier sound quality, and then thepeople are back looking for the missing features in a year or two or sooner. Can we all say "niche market".?

why pay for what you don't need?

Who says that you don't need it, or won't need it over the life of the product?

Besides, they want more money for less, even if you take the AVR and run just 2 channels.

Why pay more money for what you want?
eljr's Avatar eljr 01:47 PM 01-14-2014
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why pay for what you don't need?

Because you don't have to. There are all kinds of AVRs for less money.

You need to learn to work the quotes.
eljr's Avatar eljr 01:51 PM 01-14-2014
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Who says that you don't need it, or won't need it over the life of the product?

Does not matter. If he does not want nor need it now, why have it?

Makes no sense to me.

I know it bugs me when I buy something and it has tons of stuff I don't need but am paying for.

and don't tell me the extra stuff is free, it's not. Nothing is free in this life.

on another note, I need your wisdom over in another thread concerning a sub hookup.

I'll post my question in a few.
FMW's Avatar FMW 01:58 PM 01-14-2014
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Does not matter. If he does not want nor need it now, why have it?

Makes no sense to me.

I know it bugs me when I buy something and it has tons of stuff I don't need but am paying for.

and don't tell me the extra stuff is free, it's not. Nothing is free in this life.

on another note, I need your wisdom over in another thread concerning a sub hookup.

I'll post my question in a few.

Because it costs less.
eljr's Avatar eljr 02:54 PM 01-14-2014
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Because it costs less.

You learned to use the quotes! Good stuff.
Knucklehead90's Avatar Knucklehead90 03:19 PM 01-14-2014
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B & H Photo still has some 3390 receivers available for $240, but the 3490 is only available direct from Harman-Kardon's website at full price, $449.

Everyone else seems to be out of stock.
Harman Audio has refurbished 3490's for less than that and it comes with the full 2 year warranty and includes shipping. The 3390 is not currently available refurbished or new on that site - doesn't mean they won't get more in though. They had the 3390 refurbished for $199 - pretty good deal IMO.
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