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Mike Zaaaaayyyy's Avatar Mike Zaaaaayyyy
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I received a large box from OPPO today smile.gif

earlier this week I got an email from OPPO that the HA-1 Headphone Amp was in stock: I ordered the PM-1 headphones and the HA-1 amp and a couple of accessories

The first thing I noticed was how light the headphones are (once you remove them from the huge display box) : for Planar Magnetic headphones they are surprisingly light...and comfortable

As light as the PM-1's are, the HA-1 is heavy: massive and well built: The display is very cool: you can select the info screen (status screen), a spectrum display, or VU meters: it comes with an IR remote control.

I just listened to them for a few minutes but they sound excellent so far: perhaps more later: my first impressions are very positive: my opinion only of course smile.gif
I will be getting my pm-1 tomorrow, can't wait will post pics as soon as I get em
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Ok so I got the big surprise oppo box today,my first impression was the looks and the weird but the smell of a new car, I first connect it to my bdp-105 and sounded great but was missing the deep bass,that is until I plug it into my iPod 5,and sounded unbelievable, I thought it would be the other way around,now I'm trying to post pics,
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[IMG][IMG][IMG] Enjoy,these things sound amazing,can anyone explain why the iPod 5 sounds better then the bdp-105 through the pm-1?
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Enjoy,these things sound amazing,can anyone explain why the iPod 5 sounds better then the bdp-105 through the pm-1?
(answered here... http://www.avsforum.com/t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/10800_100#post_24753161)
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Ok so I got the big surprise oppo box today,my first impression was the looks and the weird but the smell of a new car, I first connect it to my bdp-105 and sounded great but was missing the deep bass,that is until I plug it into my iPod 5,and sounded unbelievable, I thought it would be the other way around,now I'm trying to post pics,

I tried the PM-1 into a 105D: it was playing Monuments Men in DTS-Master: I assume the headphone out was a stereo down mix: it sounded very good: there is plenty of gain available from the 105D headphone output to drive the PM-1
Mike Zaaaaayyyy's Avatar Mike Zaaaaayyyy
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Tonight I was comparing my Pm-1 to Bose qc15,yea that's right,listening to the new coldplay album through iPod 5 and bdp105,bose was too much bass hungry and all over the place,and vibrated my ears too much,overpowerd the vocals as well,as for the pm1 they had less bass but still was punchy and tight and rich and satisfied and 10 times more dynamic and clarity..Plus vocals were more lifelike. .


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OppoPM1.pdf 95k .pdf file

 

More PM1 measurements from InnerFidelity... I wonder why they are so different(esp frequency response) than those other magazines have made.


Attached: OppoPM1.pdf (94.6 KB) 
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The Oppo PM-1 headphones achieved a 5 star rating in the July edition of UK's What HiFi magazine wink.gif
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Smooth, refined presentation; plenty of detail; massive scale; excellent bass; comfort; gorgeous build quality...

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The Oppo PM-1 headphones achieved a 5 star rating in the July edition of UK's What HiFi magazine wink.gif
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Originally Posted by What HiFi 
Smooth, refined presentation; plenty of detail; massive scale; excellent bass; comfort; gorgeous build quality...

http://www.whathifi.com/review/pm-1
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http://www.innerfidelity.com/content...etic-headphone

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http://www.hdfever.fr/2014/06/16/test-oppo-pm-1/
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The Oppo PM-1 headphones are great, but they are not on the same audio quality-level as LCD-3. Oppo HA-1 however really shines with the Audeze LCD-3! Some of the best I´ve heard ever, regardless of price.
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The Oppo PM-1 headphones are great, but they are not on the same audio quality-level as LCD-3. Oppo HA-1 however really shines with the Audeze LCD-3! Some of the best I´ve heard ever, regardless of price.
Since they cost about $850 more than the PM-1, I should hope they would sound better.
Of course price doesn't always equal performance.
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Since they cost about $850 more than the PM-1, I should hope they would sound better.
Of course price doesn't always equal performance.
Just tested the PM-1 against LCD-3, LCD-X and LCD-XC. PM-1 were closer to the sound signature of LCD-X. Keep in mind - these are all great high-end headphones, but there is a reason you pay $850 more as you mentioned. This applies both for build-quality and sound-quality.
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Just tested the PM-1 against LCD-3, LCD-X and LCD-XC. PM-1 were closer to the sound signature of LCD-X. Keep in mind - these are all great high-end headphones, but there is a reason you pay $850 more as you mentioned. This applies both for build-quality and sound-quality.
You think the LCD-3 has better build quality? They're pretty heavy though, aren't they.
At least the PM-1 is easy on the neck, lol. I honestly have never heard the LCD-3,
but they are quite popular for the high end range of cans.

Be sure to check out the PM-2 when they are released too.
Then the price difference will be $1200-$1300 difference between them.
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You think the LCD-3 has better build quality? They're pretty heavy though, aren't they.
At least the PM-1 is easy on the neck, lol. I honestly have never heard the LCD-3,
but they are quite popular for the high end range of cans.

Be sure to check out the PM-2 when they are released too.
Then the price difference will be $1200-$1300 difference between them.
I always listen to the new products coming out, and will check out the PM-2. Regarding the LCD-3; it is important that it is the F-edition (Fazor technology introduced for the LCD-X and LCD-XC editions late last year). All LCD-3 with serial numbers starting with 271xxxx contains this upgrade (it is not only Fazor added, a lot of other tweaks as well). Everybody that listened to previous editions of LCD-3 should listen again. More air/transparancy, better timing, and more detailed clean bass (the "muddy" low-frequency part is completely gone).
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When comparing DACs, which one sounds better ... the BDP105 player or the HA-1 amplifier, when listening to either RCA or XLR outputs?
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When comparing DACs, which one sounds better ... the BDP105 player or the HA-1 amplifier, when listening to either RCA or XLR outputs?
Myself and a few others have reported better clarity and resolve in favor of the HA-1.
A lot of that though, seems to depend on just how resolving your own system is.
For me personally, it sounds marginally better, for others a little more.
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But Smarty, is it worth an extra $1,200 more if you already have the BDP-105?


Also how do the two compare sound-wise through the headphone outputs? I know the 105 was critized for not having enough drive for low impedance headphones. Apart from this (and assuming its true), how do the HP sounds compare between the two players?


Thanks,
David
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But Smarty, is it worth an extra $1,200 more if you already have the BDP-105?


Also how do the two compare sound-wise through the headphone outputs? I know the 105 was critized for not having enough drive for low impedance headphones. Apart from this (and assuming its true), how do the HP sounds compare between the two players?


Thanks,
David
For some people, the 105 will be sufficient enough, but the HA-1 does have some features that the 105 doesn't.
Like high gain for headphones that require more power, analog audio inputs, Bluetooth, front USB port for connecting a
mobile device directly to the unit, balanced headphone output, DSD128 and DSD256 on the async usb,
and probably a couple more things I can't recall at the moment.

As for how the HP output sounds comparatively between the 105 and HA-1...
Again, the HA-1 has a high gain option as well as the choice of balanced output.
I think the unbalanced headphone outputs will be very close to the same, but the balanced will sound quite a bit better.
It also of course depends on what headphones you are using. You will need some very high quality cans like the PM-1 or PM-2 to hear the difference.

As always, the monetary investment is subjective. If the differences are worth it to you, then it may be worth the price paid.
Personally I have never owned a dedicated HP amp. The HA-1 is a 1st for me and thus I went from nothing to spoiled very quickly, lol.
The HA-1 is just a magnificent piece of kit as they like to say in this industry.
I have also not used the HP amp in the 105 very much in the past, but since I will now have the HA-1 right in my office next to my PC,
it will get lots of use while I work and play on my computer.
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^ BTW, this is a thread dedicated to the Oppo PM-1.
Here are a couple more threads dedicated to the Oppo HA-1...

--- OPPO HA-1

--- http://www.head-fi.org/t/717834/oppo...essions-thread
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Just tested the PM-1 against LCD-3, LCD-X and LCD-XC. PM-1 were closer to the sound signature of LCD-X. Keep in mind - these are all great high-end headphones, but there is a reason you pay $850 more as you mentioned. This applies both for build-quality and sound-quality.
I agree, these LCD-3's are among the best you can buy.
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I agree, these LCD-3's are among the best you can buy.
Did you audition them on youTube?
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For some people, the 105 will be sufficient enough, but the HA-1 does have some features that the 105 doesn't.
Like high gain for headphones that require more power, analog audio inputs, Bluetooth, front USB port for connecting a
mobile device directly to the unit, balanced headphone output, DSD128 and DSD256 on the async usb,
and probably a couple more things I can't recall at the moment.

As for how the HP output sounds comparatively between the 105 and HA-1...
Again, the HA-1 has a high gain option as well as the choice of balanced output.
I think the unbalanced headphone outputs will be very close to the same, but the balanced will sound quite a bit better.
It also of course depends on what headphones you are using. You will need some very high quality cans like the PM-1 or PM-2 to hear the difference.

As always, the monetary investment is subjective. If the differences are worth it to you, then it may be worth the price paid.
Personally I have never owned a dedicated HP amp. The HA-1 is a 1st for me and thus I went from nothing to spoiled very quickly, lol.
The HA-1 is just a magnificent piece of kit as they like to say in this industry.
I have also not used the HP amp in the 105 very much in the past, but since I will now have the HA-1 right in my office next to my PC,
it will get lots of use while I work and play on my computer.
Thanks Smarty ... indeed headphone listening is new to me as well. And since all my sources are on shiny disks and the 105 player is 20ft away in my rack making for a super ling headphone cable, I think, i'll postpone my entry into the headphone world for now.
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Did you audition them on youTube?

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Thanks Smarty ... indeed headphone listening is new to me as well. And since all my sources are on shiny disks and the 105 player is 20ft away in my rack making for a super ling headphone cable, I think, i'll postpone my entry into the headphone world for now.
Nothing wrong with using the 105 for headphone listening needs either. The head amp in the 105 is still very good.
I have the exact same issue of distance in my theater room, and on the occasions when I want to use headphones in that setup,
I have a 1/4' extension cable I use for that. It cost me like 10 or 15 bucks and I can't tell the difference between using it or
a direct connection with my headphones.
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Did you audition them on youTube?
How did you know that? The video did not have any sound but the way the guy was acting when wearing them got me excited! so I kept on watching the video more and when the guy pointed at his arm showing us that he had chillbumps.. I was sold! I had to have them then and now I do have some LCD-3's.

I buy my cars like this too, no need to do any test drive after watching one of these exciting car You Tube Videos !
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How did you know that? The video did not have any sound but the way the guy was acting when wearing them got me excited! so I kept on watching the video more and when the guy pointed at his arm showing us that he had chillbumps.. I was sold! I had to have them then and now I do have some LCD-3's.

I buy my cars like this too, no need to do any test drive after watching one of these exciting car You Tube Videos !
I have to admit that I bought my Sennheiser HD650 based on reading, so maybe watching isn't such a stretch in these days of modern times.

Cheers.

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