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Integrated recommendations w Paradigm

Hey guys, looking for some input. I am moving my MK9 se3's from a home theater setup into a dedicated 2 channel setup in my bedroom. I'm looking at integrated amps and DAC's, but am all over the place on what to get. I know the speakers are rated 15-200 watts at 93 db. My question is, will something like the Marantz PM6004 or 6005 with 45 watts/ch be enough to drive these at high volume for extended periods of time? By high volume, I mean at volumes that would be uncomfortable to stand directly in front of the speakers for longer than a few seconds. They are going in a fairly large room. Well, it's a long room, but only about 15' wide and the ceiling is only about 9 feet high. It's probably 25-30' long. I've read a couple of reviews that said the 6004 would shut off on them at higher volumes, but they didn't mention what speakers they were trying to drive.
I listen to mostly metal (newer stuff, not 80's "metal," so lots of fast double bass drums and electric guitar riffs - KSE, Periphery, After the Burial, Lamb of God etc) and found the Yamaha AVR to be a little harsh w the Paradigms.

I'm looking at units like the
-Onkyo a9050 (75w)
-Yamaha (as500) w an external DAC
-Marantz 6004 (45w) with an external DAC (POSSIBLY the 6005, but for just a little more money I can get a used 6004 and a better external DAC: grant fidelity, arcam etc)
-another option is using the Marantz na7004 as the DAC and preamp and connecting a budget power amp of some kind to it - Onkyo has a 75w power amp on Amazon w good reviews for $300.

Anyway, suggestions? Anyone here have these Paradigms that can make an experienced recommendation?
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which brands/models have you auditioned? Your speakers will be easy to drive- question is, how loud do you want to play them?
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Hey guys, looking for some input. I am moving my MK9 se3's from a home theater setup into a dedicated 2 channel setup in my bedroom. I'm looking at integrated amps and DAC's, but am all over the place on what to get. I know the speakers are rated 15-200 watts at 93 db. My question is, will something like the Marantz PM6004 or 6005 with 45 watts/ch be enough to drive these at high volume for extended periods of time? By high volume, I mean at volumes that would be uncomfortable to stand directly in front of the speakers for longer than a few seconds. They are going in a fairly large room. Well, it's a long room, but only about 15' wide and the ceiling is only about 9 feet high. It's probably 25-30' long. I've read a couple of reviews that said the 6004 would shut off on them at higher volumes, but they didn't mention what speakers they were trying to drive.
I listen to mostly metal (newer stuff, not 80's "metal," so lots of fast double bass drums and electric guitar riffs - KSE, Periphery, After the Burial, Lamb of God etc) and found the Yamaha AVR to be a little harsh w the Paradigms.

I'm looking at units like the
-Onkyo a9050 (75w)
-Yamaha (as500) w an external DAC
-Marantz 6004 (45w) with an external DAC (POSSIBLY the 6005, but for just a little more money I can get a used 6004 and a better external DAC: grant fidelity, arcam etc)
-another option is using the Marantz na7004 as the DAC and preamp and connecting a budget power amp of some kind to it - Onkyo has a 75w power amp on Amazon w good reviews for $300.

Anyway, suggestions? Anyone here have these Paradigms that can make an experienced recommendation?




To my ears, the sound quality of the Onkyo and Yamaha is totally harsh and unacceptable; I would never recommend them. Marantz is considerably better from my listening experience.

The Music Hall 15.3, however, is an excellent-sounding amplifier for only $549, and it will give you the power you need with speakers rated for 93 db/watt. I recommend it.

The Audioengine D1 DAC is very good, and only $169.
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Here's a link that I found very useful when explaining amplifiers and how they work. It's explained over many posts and requires a bit of reading, but once you go through it all you should understand a lot better what you need for an amplifier.

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. My question is, will something like the Marantz PM6004 or 6005 with 45 watts/ch be enough to drive these at high volume for extended periods of time?
Not likely.


I have to wonder, at the volumes you describe, if you will be able to stand those speakers at all.

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Hey guys, looking for some input. I am moving my MK9 se3's from a home theater setup into a dedicated 2 channel setup in my bedroom. I'm looking at integrated amps and DAC's, but am all over the place on what to get. I know the speakers are rated 15-200 watts at 93 db. My question is, will something like the Marantz PM6004 or 6005 with 45 watts/ch be enough to drive these at high volume for extended periods of time? By high volume, I mean at volumes that would be uncomfortable to stand directly in front of the speakers for longer than a few seconds. They are going in a fairly large room. Well, it's a long room, but only about 15' wide and the ceiling is only about 9 feet high. It's probably 25-30' long. I've read a couple of reviews that said the 6004 would shut off on them at higher volumes, but they didn't mention what speakers they were trying to drive.
I listen to mostly metal (newer stuff, not 80's "metal," so lots of fast double bass drums and electric guitar riffs - KSE, Periphery, After the Burial, Lamb of God etc) and found the Yamaha AVR to be a little harsh w the Paradigms.

I'm looking at units like the
-Onkyo a9050 (75w)
-Yamaha (as500) w an external DAC
-Marantz 6004 (45w) with an external DAC (POSSIBLY the 6005, but for just a little more money I can get a used 6004 and a better external DAC: grant fidelity, arcam etc)
-another option is using the Marantz na7004 as the DAC and preamp and connecting a budget power amp of some kind to it - Onkyo has a 75w power amp on Amazon w good reviews for $300.

Anyway, suggestions? Anyone here have these Paradigms that can make an experienced recommendation?
Get a NAD T758 receiver.

That will drive your speakers much better and sound nice.
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