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Advice needed: good analog set-up?

Hi there, I'm looking to upgrade my set-up (crappy Sony plastic turntable from the early '90s and a '70s Pioneer amp that's gone crackly in the left channel) and a friend has offered to sell his refurbished Sony set-up (see pics). I'm only after the turntable and amp but he wants to sell both with the speakers for $800 ono (he bought for $1500 last year). Wondering if anyone would be kind enough to tell me if this is a decent set-up, and decent value for money? Thanks!
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The turntable looks interesting visually. I would say pass on the other gear.
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IMO, that is way too much money for that. The Amp is only 30 WPC and probably would not bring much more then $100 for the pair. The speakers were once built by Bose so they probably were fairly expensive to start with but may not be highly desired today. The TT looks nice. Your best bet is to get the model numbers and check the SOLD listings on eBay. That will give you an idea of what those pieces are worth. If you are going to spend $800, you can get some very good, highly regarded equipment. For a few hundred dollars, you could assemble a nice receiver, turntable and a good pair of speakers. Check your local Craigslist for equipment and ask our opinion on it. Another great site, especially for vintage equipment is Audiokarma.com - post there too.
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If your amp is crackly only when you turn a knob it may just need a little DeOxit. Nothing wrong with 70's Pioneer gear. I have a 70's Pioneer amp and 1980 Pioneer receiver.

Idiot's Guide to Using DeOxit

Or here's a short YouTube on how to DeOxit an amp.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKmqVBx9tsU
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I'd pass
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IMO, that is way too much money for that....
Agree, way too much.

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For $800 you can do much better than what your 'buddy' is trying to pawn off on you. For under $300 Onkyo's TX-8160 (refurbished) is a decent stereo receiver. I have the older TX-8050 that I hang onto just because it works so danged good! The Marantz TT42 TT was a pleasant surprise to me - I didn't think I'd be getting much for $190 refurbished - it works great and sounds good too! I see the price has gone up but IMO it's still a good bargain. It sounds every bit as good as the Music Hall 2.2 I bought for my son for Xmas last year.

After buying those two items check out your local Craig's List for a decent set of speakers with what is left. I find it amazing the quality of speakers found on Craig's List for cheap. I picked up a pair of Infinity IL40's last month for $200! They were in decent shape and sound like the ones I bought many years ago for much more than $200! Actually I traded a 32" flat panel TV and an el cheapo DVD player for the pair.

Post your location - maybe someone will peruse your local Craig's List and alert you to some very good bargains. Then you can play some very good quality music to your buddy so he'll know what good sound is too!

Edit: Here's a recommendation for the Marantz TT from a well known website that reviews TTs. http://www.recordplayerreviews.com/ The TT42P is the preamp model. If you don't need a built in preamp get the TT42.

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Thank you one and all for the feedback, really appreciate it! I'm based in Australia, so no Craigslist here unfortunately! Ebay yes, though. Thanks for letting me know I'd be blowing my cash with this set-up!
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Thank you one and all for the feedback, really appreciate it! I'm based in Australia, so no Craigslist here unfortunately! Ebay yes, though. Thanks for letting me know I'd be blowing my cash with this set-up!

I'm admittedly an audiophile, but I've also been interested in budget systems and getting the absolute most bang for your buck.

I have four systems including a budget system, which consists of Elac B6s for $277 (Amazon), Yamaha AS301 integrated amp for $299 (Amazon), Teac Tascam CD200 CD player for a little over $200 (Amazon) and a Musical fidelity Roundtable Turntable for $299 (Music Direct). All currently available product, bought new, not refurbished, and sounds quite good and very balanced. And playing every day, all day. All of this stuff I would think would be available to you.

I did one little upgrade from the included AT95e cart to a Ortofon Blue as I already had the Ortofon. And the Yamaha is available in silver outside of the USA, which I much prefer. The Yamaha has a sub out so add a sub (or two) and you're all set. I even use this for classical at low volume (as in right now) and it's quite satisfying.








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I keep the three box sets of Mercs that Wilma Cozart Fine remastered back in the 90s up here and the 150 CDs provided me with plenty of low level listening enjoyment for my work day. I gotta keep the volume down due to incoming phone calls so it's important that I have tonal balance at low volumes. I don't use any tone controls and never ever the loudness switch.

And, btw, I use the built in phono stage in the Yamaha AS301 and it's plenty good enough.



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It's not cheap Down Under!! For around $1000 check out JB Hi-Fi. Sherwood RX4508 Receiver w/phono $347, Pro-ject Essential II $429 or a Sherwood PM 9805 TT $244. And either the $419 Wharfedale AT-400 floor standing speaker w/the Sherwood TT. Or the $329 Wharfedale
Diamond 220 w/the Pro-ject TT. I was going to suggest Elac B5's but $599 in Australia! Can't imagine what my rig would have cost me down there.

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I'm admittedly an audiophile, but I've also been interested in budget systems and getting the absolute most bang for your buck.

Proof that a modest system with a perfect set-up can produce satisfying sound.

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Hi there, I'm looking to upgrade my set-up (crappy Sony plastic turntable from the early '90s and a '70s Pioneer amp that's gone crackly in the left channel) and a friend has offered to sell his refurbished Sony set-up (see pics). I'm only after the turntable and amp but he wants to sell both with the speakers for $800 ono (he bought for $1500 last year). Wondering if anyone would be kind enough to tell me if this is a decent set-up, and decent value for money? Thanks!
My 2 cents would be get a decent to good modern turntable. I am biased on the DJ style tables myself like the Stanton T.92, helpful for you because it has a Phono stage built in, but find something in the $300 range give or take. Check ebay for a vintage receiver, they shouldn't be to hard to find, and then pair with speakers of your choice. Many of the people here missed the analog part of your post especially when it comes to receivers.
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Proof that a modest system with a perfect set-up can produce satisfying sound.

I just got my trusty DB meter to check and I'm listening at 50-60db at the MLP so less in my office. This is my mark of a balanced system is its tonality at very low volume. Hell, there are bass heads on here with youtube vids and their noise floor with nothing playing is much louder than I'm listening. Me thinks this is a far better way. It's all balance.
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Hi there, I'm looking to upgrade my set-up (crappy Sony plastic turntable from the early '90s and a '70s Pioneer amp that's gone crackly in the left channel) and a friend has offered to sell his refurbished Sony set-up (see pics). I'm only after the turntable and amp but he wants to sell both with the speakers for $800 ono (he bought for $1500 last year). Wondering if anyone would be kind enough to tell me if this is a decent set-up, and decent value for money? Thanks!
Those speakers are not very good, and neither is the turntable.

The amplifier might be OK, but it is low-powered and might not be so hot either.

I suggest that you get either a Music Hall MMF 2.3 turntable or a Marantz TT-42P turntable ($400-500 in the US).

For an amplifier, one of the NAD or Cambridge Audio integrated amplifiers would be good ($400-500).

I have no idea what speakers are available to you, but Elac, Pioneer, and Wharfedale have some good low-priced speakers.
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Marantz TT42p TT $359 USA price vs. $600 Aus.
NAD 316BEE USA price $379 vs. $599 Aus.
Elac B5 USA price $229 Vs. $500 Aus.
A sub $1000 system will set you back about $1700 in Australia. Want a pair of standard LS-50's? Sale price is $2000. Regular price is $2600.
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Hi there, I'm looking to upgrade my set-up (crappy Sony plastic turntable from the early '90s and a '70s Pioneer amp that's gone crackly in the left channel) and a friend has offered to sell his refurbished Sony set-up (see pics). I'm only after the turntable and amp but he wants to sell both with the speakers for $800 ono (he bought for $1500 last year). Wondering if anyone would be kind enough to tell me if this is a decent set-up, and decent value for money? Thanks!
How about this

Technics Receiver http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VERY-NICE...UAAOSwdGFYwUVd

Or thie Kenwood KR-4400 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-K...0AAOSwzqFY9EkU

pick any turntable and a decent pair of speakers and your good to go.
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