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Question Cable Suggestions for Parasound Halo Int and Oppo UDP-205

I'm planning of building the following setup.

Parasound Halo Integrated 2.1 Channel Integrated Amplifier
(http://www.parasound.com/hint.php)
Oppo UDP-205 4K Ultra HD Audiophile Blu-ray Disc Player (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/)
Focal Aria 06 BOOKSHELF 2-WAY LOUDSPEAKER (https://www.focal.com/en/home-audio/...akers/aria-906)

This is the first time I'm building a 2 channel audio system (will add 4K OLED later, SVS Sub too)

So I would like your thoughts on which connection to go for RCA/XLR & would love to hear on cable suggestions. My initial round of finding got me AudioQuest & Kimber Kable.

Thanks in advance.

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Cable Suggestions for Parasound Halo Int and Oppo UDP-205

Don't they normally say 10% of your budget?


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Hi - Just ordered the Halo Int. Could you suggest some cable to match what I've planned from - audioadvisor or musicdirect.

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KKPB (RCA)
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KKPBBAL (XLR

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Hi - Just ordered the Halo Int. Could you suggest some cable to match what I've planned from - audioadvisor or musicdirect.

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KKPB (RCA)
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KKPBBAL (XLR
Monoprice.com. If you want a little better try Blue Jeans cables.

Audioquest, Kimber, and other "high end" cable manufactures are shams. Blue Jeans cable uses the same cable stock and connectors as do the broadcast and mastering industry. And it's not expensive. How can you do better than using the same cables the material was mastered with?

And that 10% of your budget is another scam by audio shops. Think about it, what ties the cost of cables to the cost of equipment?

The cables you noted above are shoddy! Open twisted wires? Good audio cables are shielded and have been for the past 100 years. While the open twisted pair will work just fine in your application, it offers nothing over a Monoprice cable other than better quality connectors mechanically speaking. And you can get those better connectors from Monoprice as well. Now Kimber may tell you that shielded cables have high capacitance and that's bad for audio. But what they don't tell you is that the capacitance in a 6 foot interconnect with modern low impedance gear is irrelevant.
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I've used the same cables for years--be they connecting to cheap speaker/components or to 1KW pro audio gear

Yes, I've hooked $40 Rapco professional speaker cable to a $20 chip amp--sue me!

Then again, I've built speaker cable out of 12 AWG extension cord connecting $1,000 plus amps to $1,000 plus PA speakers in a pinch so what do I know?

Jesus and Allah demand 10 percent of your earnings so it makes sense to blow 10 percent on wire--right? Uhhhhh, do you want what works correctly or what your flavor of sky god demands? 12 AWG two conductor copper wire should work for home use no matter what amps, watts or flavor you demand--good starting point.

For me, my old Rapco 12 AWG cable has been run over by vehicles, ran the PA system for years withhout problems so I used it for my HT system without a second thought.

If you plan on running SpeakerPower professional 240 volt 8KW amps at 2 ohms, might want to go with 10AWG two conductor cord--if not 12/14/16 guage is your friend. For me, using 12 AWG has not been an issue for the past 25 years as long as I don't go below 4 ohms and 50 feet.

For home use with runs less than 50 feet, I'd look at 14 AWG zip cord--if you plan on running below 4 ohms, then it becomes a matter of what impedance, the length of the cable and power applied. Good luck with your build, get the correct guage out of the way first, make it copper wire of the correct guage and enjoy your hobby. There is no percentage, there is the proper guage of copper wire depending on length, amp capacity and voltage.

12 and 14 guage for most home installations is overkill but it is the cheapest component and lasts for longer than you'll be breathing so you'll be fine with a bit of overkill. Enjoyy running the cable...part of living the dream.
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Guys I've ordered these for my setup.

Kimber Hero interconnects, Ultraplate Black RCA's 1-meter pair $150 New x 2 (1 for my Vinyl later)
Kimber 8TC speaker wire with S-BAN bananas, 12-foot pair $299 Demo

From Sound perspective. In addition to the RCA what cable is required for the audio to flow from UDP-205 to Halo Int?

https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-...05-back-hr.jpg
http://www.parasound.com/product-ima...black_back.jpg




From Sound perspective. In addition to the RCA what cable is required for the audio to flow from UDP-205 to Halo Int?

Denon AVR-3313
Boston Acoustics A 26 Bookshelf Loudspeaker
Sony 32" (80cm), 16:9 EX650

Dell Alienware X51 i5 Nvidia GTX660
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Guys I've ordered these for my setup.

Kimber Hero interconnects, Ultraplate Black RCA's 1-meter pair $150 New x 2 (1 for my Vinyl later)
Kimber 8TC speaker wire with S-BAN bananas, 12-foot pair $299 Demo

From Sound perspective. In addition to the RCA what cable is required for the audio to flow from UDP-205 to Halo Int?

https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-...05-back-hr.jpg
http://www.parasound.com/product-ima...black_back.jpg




From Sound perspective. In addition to the RCA what cable is required for the audio to flow from UDP-205 to Halo Int?
Well I would return them if you can. You grossly overpaid for what you need.

You can buy the same functional cables for well less than $50 total and there will be absolutely no difference in measured* performance.

*And we can measure electrical audio signals well beyond the limits of human hearing.

P.S. Your amplifier has heavy duty gold banana jacks on the back. But look at the interior view, The PC board the banana jacks are on connects to the amplifier board with that white connector using tin plated contacts. These are standard 0.156 connectors and cost pennies. You can get gold plated pins but as you can see here the manufacture just used the cheaper tin versions. Also note the same tin plated contacts on the power connector. So much for high and power cords!

And look at the internal wiring. Is that audiophile wire? I think not. It's just plain old PVC copper tin plated hook-up wire. So what's the point of the Kimber speaker wire versus lamp cord?

And what's the point of of those heavy gold banana posts when the internal connection is a 10amp max tin contact? Now this tin connector will not degrade your sound. It's perfectly adequate for the purpose. But it just goes to prove all the hype in these audiophile products that make no difference electrically.

Just trying to save you money.
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Interconnects: Blue Jeans Cable

Speaker wire: lamp or zip cord - gauge dependent on run -using bare wire (make sure there aren't any extraneous wire beyond the connections) to binding posts.....golden.

If aesthetics is more important than what has been suggested, let your pocket book be your guide

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I'd second Monoprice. I bought their premium RCA interconnect, 6ft. When I bought my burson audio headphone amp from Moon Audio, they sent me a premium RCA cable. Sonically, no difference from the monoprice one. The monoprice one was about 5 bucks.
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I'm using speakerwire from both Monoprice and also from SVS Sound. RCA connectors from SVS Sound as well. Very good quality, five year warranty as well. Had a connector come loose and they replaced it, no questions asked. https://www.svsound.com/products/sou...rconnect-cable

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This question looks extremely familiar. Do you have this posted in other forums, because I'm pretty sure I responded to this, but don't see it here?

Where are you geographically? No point in giving USA links if you are in the UK.

https://www.avforums.com/threads/cab...#post-25319198

Whether this is you or not, my answer is the same, though my links might be different.

I think ultimately it breaks down like this -

So, you need -

HDMI from Oppo to TV,

Optical
from TV to Parasound for Movies

RCA or XLR from Oppo to Parasound for Music

If you need USA links, we can provide that, but the other thread has many UK links to cable.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Paul7777x also posted to Van Damme StarQuad XLR on Ebay, but that Ebay sale is from a company called DesignACable, which has its own website. Very good cable selection -

https://www.designacable.com/

https://www.designacable.com/studio-...ono-leads.html

https://www.designacable.com/studio-...mic-leads.html

https://www.designacable.com/compone..._cable_type=68

Van Damme Blue being very popular Speaker Wire -

https://www.designacable.com/compone...ker-cable.html

2.5mm² = £2.45/meter

Here is Van Damme StarQuad XLR Cable from DesingACable -

https://www.designacable.com/studio-...one-leads.html

StarQuad XLR cable
come in a variety of colors and are available in lengths from 25cm to 40m. £13.75 for 1m.

SORRY - Most of that was intended to be posted in the UK Forum. Still as long as it is posted, I might as well leave it.

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