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1.My Aperion 533-pts sound great but when listening to hip/hop, rap, and new song releases over my Polk XM XRT-12 receiver it sounds like the songs have way too much bass. Is it because the way the tracks are recorded? Older songs don't sound that bassy.

2. Secondly, do you guys prefer more bass when listening to HT then say you would when doing 2 channel music listening. I find that i like to dial in more bass when listening to 5.1 HT. How about you guys?
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Are your speakers placed close to a wall and far away from the corners? If so, try a 6dB cut when listening to music at 75dB SPL and above. Many older tracks were mastered before subs became popular due to HT. I suspect that those tracks were mastered & post-checked with consumer equipment available in those days. If there is a pro audio engineer reading this, correct me if I am wrong.

More bass up to a point, is probably better for HT. For music, it could sound very unnatural when the drum overwhelms the singer(s).
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No, he is experiencing the lack of Dynamic range and exactly what he thinks: Today's pop mixes are mixed hot on bass.

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That's why i have single driver speakers. I love bass.

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Which direction do you have the 8" powered woofer facing; toward the inside or toward the outside? How close are these to walls and/or corners?

They are rear ported AND they have powered woofers that do not face forward, so placement is going to be VERY important with these speakers.

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That's why i have single driver speakers. I love bass.

That's why some pop recordings are heavy in bass as the other poster wrote, to sell to people who like bass.
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They are rear ported AND they have powered woofers that do not face forward, so placement is going to be VERY important with these speakers.

Actually, once you get the ports/drivers far enough from the wall (6-8"), the direction they fire isn't really important. Bass is pretty omnidirectional all the way up to 300hz, so whether it's firing forward, backward, sideways, upside-down, or cockeyed, you'll still get lots of SBIR the closer the driver is to the wall.

Ideally, you want the speakers to be far enough off the wall such that the rolloff melds with the SBIR. Most full range speakers will start to roll off at around 60-80hz in an anechoic chamber. To match the boundary reinforcement with the rolloff, you're looking at having the drivers around 3.5 feet off the front wall (which generally means the speaker is 2-2.5' off the front wall).

You'll notice that most full range speakers and most monitors start rolling off at the same place, but what's different is how fast they roll off. One of the reasons why speakers, like the PSB Image towers, seem so bass heavy is because they don't start rolling off until around 50hz.
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Actually, once you get the ports/drivers far enough from the wall (6-8"), the direction they fire isn't really important. Bass is pretty omnidirectional all the way up to 300hz, so whether it's firing forward, backward, sideways, upside-down, or cockeyed, you'll still get lots of SBIR the closer the driver is to the wall.

Ideally, you want the speakers to be far enough off the wall such that the rolloff melds with the SBIR. Most full range speakers will start to roll off at around 60-80hz in an anechoic chamber. To match the boundary reinforcement with the rolloff, you're looking at having the drivers around 3.5 feet off the front wall (which generally means the speaker is 2-2.5' off the front wall).

You'll notice that most full range speakers and most monitors start rolling off at the same place, but what's different is how fast they roll off. One of the reasons why speakers, like the PSB Image towers, seem so bass heavy is because they don't start rolling off until around 50hz.

which kind of Fullrange speakers? Single driver? Multi Driver?

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which kind of Fullrange speakers? Single driver? Multi Driver?

Multi-driver. I haven't ever bothered looking into single driver speakers. Too much distortion for my taste (at least on the music I listen to).
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Theres something cool about having the furnature rattling from the pounding subwoofers.

I once had a pair of old fullrange YORX/GPX bookshelf speakers which had quite a bit of bass for a single 4 inch paper driver! At Normal listening volume you could her BOOM BA BOOM BA BOOM Coming from the back of the room. Maybe it was because they were front Ported.
They did live up to the Bass reflex speakerlable that was Printed on the front. (I miss those little speakers)

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I have noticed that modern pop songs have more bass to them than other types of music. Its not just you, and its not just over your XM tuner.

I am one that prefers my bass to be toned down in 2 channel playback. I don't have a powered sub in my 2 channel set up for this reason. I realize you can calibrate the sub, but it just seems that with a sub most music has too much bass. Its too dominating. I prefer the bass to blend with the rest of the sonic spectrum.

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