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I would just try another cable to ensure it is not related to a bad pin, connection, or dropped bandwidth. Snow, sparkles, or other isolated visual errors are almost always associable to a bad cable.

All firmware revisions which are 08-0709 incorporate instructions which are compatible with all hardware revisions. It is only an issue with reverting to older firmware where the single chip solutions will have dropout and other errors at 1080p.

What exactly are sparkles?
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Sparkles = colored colored dots. You will usually see these around edges which are around high contrast areas.
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Sparkles = colored colored dots. You will usually see these around edges which are around high contrast areas.

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Damn this is a great player, Just watched the 20th Anniversary DVD of "Child's Play" on it and it looked amazing. Granted the DVD is of a high quality anyway, but still!

My only grumble is that sometimes when I try to close the tray the blue circle around the eject button on the player stays on and the tray won't close till I push it in with my finger.
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The eject button on the player requires a more deliberate push... pausing for a half-second as you press it, perhaps to avoid ejecting after an accidental press.

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Ah I see. I'll start doing that from now on and see if it eliminates the problem. It is strange. The "Close/open" text is displayed at the top left of my screen but the tray just won't budge until I push it with my finger.
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De-interlacing Mode 2:2 Even / 2:2 Odd / Auto
Video Mode Video 2
TV Type Auto / PAL (no differences)
720p
Latest PAL firmware

I watched more then 25 PAL discs.
Forcing one of the 2:2 Modes brings good movie quality but then the subtitles are combing.
Chanching to the other 2:2 Mode brings good subtitles but then the movie is combing.
Auto does not perform well either

Can anybody help me please?
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I can't stand the errors in the subtitles
In the past, I used Yamaha, Silvercrest and Pioneer and they didn't have these error!
All had Mediatek decoders.
I now this because I like to open up things
It's frustating that Oppo can not fix this.
But I trust them and keep on hoping.
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Subtitles can suffer from sync to frame issues. As you have noted, you can improve the sync to frame with subtitles, but at the expense of video quality. In the current state, you will just need to which is more important: video or subtitles.
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I can't stand the errors in the subtitles
In the past, I used Yamaha, Silvercrest and Pioneer and they didn't have these error!
All had Mediatek decoders.
I now this because I like to open up things
It's frustating that Oppo can not fix this.
But I trust them and keep on hoping.

I agree, the subtitle issue is getting quite annoying. I hope they can fix it, although I'm not sure they'll be able to.

However, this issue really must be fixed in their upcoming blu-ray player...

cheers

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Having a hearing loss,I use sub titles with every movie i pop in..
And to tell the truth,it really doesn't bother me all that much....I know that the price of this player dictates that subs should be perfect....but I will start to worry when pencils are made without erasers....
To me,it's a very small price to pay for the superb PQ I get with the OPPO playing thru my 60" elite..If I had a choice between a flawless sd Player,or my present OPPO...guess what my choice would be?? And what would you guys do??:
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The eject button on the player requires a more deliberate push... pausing for a half-second as you press it, perhaps to avoid ejecting after an accidental press.

Gary

Nope it's definitley faulty. It won't even close when you turn the power off now. Being replaced wednesday.
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started an instant problem with my 983, when i turn on the player the regular picture appear on the screen but after a moment the video signal goes out, i thought maybe it was an active screensaver so i press the eject button to load a disc but still no picture appear so i checked the hdmi connection and the connection looks fine then i turn it off and on again the picture appear and suddenly it happened again no picture, so i unplugged it and leaved it for an hour and i tried it again and it works fine now, used it for 3 hours and it never happened again, why is it i experieced these? i asking these because i'm afraid it might happened again.
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This is a classic HDCP handshaking error. Try replacing your HDMI cables and trying another software installation.
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Any chance Oppo will consider a firmware change to eliminate the User Operation Prohibition (UOP) on DVDs (such as the fbi warning or coming attractions)?
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Any chance Oppo will consider a firmware change to eliminate the User Operation Prohibition (UOP) on DVDs (such as the fbi warning or coming attractions)?

Don't know.

Do you know about the STOP then MENU button trick? Or hitting MENU as the "DVD-Video" message appears during loading? These techniques can bypass a few of those annoying UOP's.

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This is a classic HDCP handshaking error. Try replacing your HDMI cables and trying another software installation.

thanks Neuromancer, may i know what does HDCP handshaking error means? does that mean my hdmi cable was defect? when i bought these player last september i watched several movies with these new hdmi cables without experiencing these problem except last sunday, and it has the latest firmware on it before the new beta firmware.
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may i know what does HDCP handshaking error means?

HDCP (High-Definition Digital Copy Protection) is an anti-piracy protocol that requires an HDMI-equipped device like the 983H negotiate a "handshake" with a display that identifies itself via HDCP as being an approved display device.

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i have searched theis thread as best as i could, but i have not read all 145 pages. i am ready to buy this player, could someone list the current bugs/issues this player has as of today using the current firmware.

1) no seamless layer change (although many have reported pretty good)
2) subtitle combing (is this for pal only?)
3) hdmi handshaking (although i don't see this as an oppo problem)

thank you all very much for the help.

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1) no seamless layer change (although many have reported pretty good)

I've seen it, but it is too quick for me to measure. Some small fraction of a second.

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2) subtitle combing (is this for pal only?)

On NTSC discs I see subtitle breakup about once per hour.

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3) hdmi handshaking (although i don't see this as an oppo problem)

Working pretty well, I think, although problem combinations are always a possibility.

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i have searched theis thread as best as i could, but i have not read all 145 pages. i am ready to buy this player, could someone list the current bugs/issues this player has as of today using the current firmware.

1) no seamless layer change (although many have reported pretty good)
2) subtitle combing (is this for pal only?)
3) hdmi handshaking (although i don't see this as an oppo problem)

thank you all very much for the help.

I have experienced neither 1 or 3. Subtitles breaking up is very rare and brief when it occurs. Considering the complexity of the player and the multitude of features, it's very bug-free.
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I have experienced neither 1 or 3. Subtitles breaking up is very rare and brief when it occurs. Considering the complexity of the player and the multitude of features, it's very bug-free.

This is also my experience.
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. . . 3) hdmi handshaking (although i don't see this as an oppo problem)

The only "won't work with" I'm aware of is the Yamaha RX-Z11. I'd get confirmation on the Denon 4308, which won't work with the similar-to-983-VP-chipset DVDO Edge.
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I am interested in controlling my new DV-983H with the remote that came with my Onkyo PR-SC885 preamp. I have been able to do this successfully with my Panasonic blu-ray player and my DirecTV receiver. Onkyo lists "1251" as the correct Oppo code. However, this does not work. Nor do any of the codes suggested on page 47 of the 983H's manual. Can you offer any further suggestions?
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Turn on "Alt RC Code" in the 983H setup and use some of the codes listed for Toshiba DVD players - it won't get you all of the controls, but it will get you all of the standard controls.

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You can also try codes from Marantz and Philips, though I have found the Toshiba controls to be the most usable.
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Hello all first time poster.

I currently have the Sony BDP-S350 for watching up-converted DVDs and am wondering if the upconversion quality on the Oppo dv-983h is worth upgrading or am I better off just sticking with the S350. Btw I am viewing a 50 inch 1080p plasma tv from 10 feet away.

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Hello all first time poster.

I currently have the Sony BDP-S350 for watching up-converted DVDs and am wondering if the upconversion quality on the Oppo dv-983h is worth upgrading or am I better off just sticking with the S350. Btw I am viewing a 50 inch 1080p plasma tv from 10 feet away.

Thanks.

"Worth" is subjective. What kind of improvement are you looking for? In general, the difference between better quality players is more subtle than dramatic.

Are you using a calibration disc? I would put some time into that before buying new hardware.

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"Worth" is subjective. What kind of improvement are you looking for? In general, the difference between better quality players is more subtle than dramatic.

Are you using a calibration disc? I would put some time into that before buying new hardware.

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I have used a calibration disc with great results. The reason I'm considering the dv-983h is that I want the best possible picture quality for DVDs and I'm just curious if the Oppo would give me that in relation to the S350 or is the difference so subtle it's barely detectable.
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Turn on "Alt RC Code" in the 983H setup and use some of the codes listed for Toshiba DVD players - it won't get you all of the controls, but it will get you all of the standard controls.

Thanks for the quick response, guys. I should have noted that Alt RC Code is turned on. I tried the Toshiba codes (again) and still no joy. One more remote on the coffee table isn't that big a deal, but still...
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