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I just bought a new Pioneer Upconvert DVD player to run through my Sony VPL-VW11HT Projector. If my projector does not have an HDMI input, what will give me the best results. Will it be significantly better than my progressive scan DVD if it is not running through the HDMI input? TIA
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I just bought a new Pioneer Upconvert DVD player to run through my Sony VPL-VW11HT Projector. If my projector does not have an HDMI input, what will give me the best results.

Upscaling over component is hard to find these days. It is no longer allowed for reasons of Digital Rights Management.

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Will it be significantly better than my progressive scan DVD if it is not running through the HDMI input? TIA

Define "significantly". Your projector upscales the standard definition signal from the DVD player. Moving this function into the player might (or might not) give a better result, but the difference will be minor.

See this sticky at the top of the forum for more details: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=477740

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As wmcclain stated, most upconvert DVD players will only output an HD resolution over HDMI. Meaning your pioneer will only output 480i or 480p over component- essentially without hdmi your pioneer IS AT BEST a progressive scan DVD player.

There is one readily available alternative in the neodigits Helios h4000 (available at costco I believe). It's supposed to be a quality drive but as the above poster suggested the question will really become: is the scaling and/or deinterlacing better in your player or your projector. Best advice is to try it out (obviously buy from a seller with generous return policy).

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How about using HDMI to DVI cable would that work?
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How about using HDMI to DVI cable would that work?

Googling shows no digital inputs on this device.

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Googling shows no digital inputs on this device.

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Correct, Component or S-Video is as good as it gets... So, I am assuming I will not do any better with an Upconvert DVD vs. my current Progressive Scan DVD.
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Correct, Component or S-Video is as good as it gets... So, I am assuming I will not do any better with an Upconvert DVD vs. my current Progressive Scan DVD.

That is probably correct. You could look at differences in deinterlacing performance, which actually matters more than scaling. This site has progressive scan test reports, but some recent models are not shown: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi

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I guess it always gets down to the ability of different device image processors to up scale/up convert.

Our PJ throws a nice HD/HT image but it doesn't upscale as well as our up converting dvd player. Same is true re our 1080p HD TV - it up scales okay but dvd player does it better.

Our Panasonic AE-900U's image @ 120 inch diagonal image is significantly better with up conversion via HDMI when compared 480p component input.

Could be a stand-alone up scaler/up converter would do a visibly better job - or maybe not.

Just our opinion the significant improvement of standard def dvd with quality up conversion would make it worthwhile to consider up grading the projector or trialing a stand-alone up scaler/converter.
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