Pioneer HLD-X0 found personally superior, sonically, to any other high-end audio laserdisc transport source - AVS Forum
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post #1 of 9 Old 09-28-2012, 05:58 PM - Thread Starter
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My current schosen ownership of three high-end LD players was chosen to be Theta Voyager, Runco LJR 1 DA (own nice DAC's), and the pioneer HLD-X0. The Pioneer HLD-X0 performance has been clearly revealed and I found it sonically superior to any other high-end audio laserdisc transport sourceI have heard (Yes even HLD-X9, but is the second best player to me. I have the Theta and Runco, for I am a fanatic about good LD audio. I dont mind a bit about having to turn disc and end of side A with the X0. It's like playing vinyl and turning over the disc. Only, you get great video to boot! For the performance of the X0, when matched with good high-end components, is dog garn impressive. I use Jadis amplification (large 120W tube amp) and to fill the room with sound, from the X0's initial signal, are Thiel CS 7.2's. I will likely never replace the rigid 80 lb. Pioneer HLD-X0 LaserDisc player, for nothing sounds better playing all the music LD titles (i.e. concerts) that aren't available to enjoy on DVD.

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I'm enjoying the audio from the X9, how different does the X0 sound?

BTW, with the low resolution of laserdisc, what video processing are you doing to make it watchable on today's equipment?

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Both units have multi-bit DAC's and separate power supplies for analog verses digital. The X0 has lower noise levels with DNR Off meaning the sound floor could be lower in the X0 so low level detail would be more easily heard. Both are better than all the other bit-stream DAC's in all the other newer players.
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So would the digital output be any different between the players, or just the analogue?

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They both sound very good to me. Where I chose the HLD-X0 over the HLD- X9 is usuing the digital out (into a 192Khz/24bit DAC), where the simple weight/rigidity of the HLD-X0 is rock stable (80 pounds or 36 Kg). The difference is negligible to most listeners and/or the cost of associated components is too great for most to detect. The X9 is the favorite amongst most out there. I just like the X0 for stability characteristics my system pick up on. Kurtis Bahr knows more about these machines ( I feel after reading various associated threads) and is a better one to substantiate my sonic claims, for I am just an old chemist.
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If I wanted to capture the digital signal to record it to computer, what is the best thing to use?

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Both units have multi-bit DAC's and separate power supplies for analog verses digital. The X0 has lower noise levels with DNR Off meaning the sound floor could be lower in the X0 so low level detail would be more easily heard. Both are better than all the other bit-stream DAC's in all the other newer players.
Correct, Kurtis. Both players have the Burr Brown PCM 1702 DAC chip, implemented with two or four of the chips ( I forget ...) running in parallel to reduce distortion. The X9 has the high-quality "K" select version of the 1702. The X0 has the highest-quality "PK" version.

The 1702 and its implementation in both units remains one of the top DAC processors, right after the BB PCM 1704. Except for a few even more carefully implemented and expensive setups, the X0 and X9 provide some of the best digital audio reproduction available.

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Does any of this affect the Ac3 output, or is it much the same on all players?

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Does any of this affect the Ac3 output, or is it much the same on all players?

The AC-3 is modulated on an Analog channel and all processing is external. So just use better quality video cables and the external boxes are what matters.
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