DVD 963 SA Arrived Today - Page 4 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #91 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 10:11 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pteittinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,790
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
deus-ex,

on paper it is capable of 720p, true. AFAIK the player does not support 720p out-of-box... but if we play nice, who knows, perhaps Philips' engineers give us the P-code which enables the higher resolutions :D

.p.

Please, feel free to call me by my first name, Petri.
pteittinen is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #92 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 10:46 AM
Member
 
MariuszP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Warsaw, Poland, Europe
Posts: 75
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
paulz:

More ways to generate RC6 code :D
http://home.hccnet.nl/r.de.haas/RC6/otherways.htm

Regards
MariuszP is offline  
post #93 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 11:20 AM
Member
 
fjollon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Sweden
Posts: 33
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
ainfante: You'r right, they are cheaper than the one I linked to. I have ordered one now... Thx :)

/fjollon
fjollon is offline  
post #94 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 12:42 PM
AVS Special Member
 
CKNA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: CT, USA
Posts: 4,059
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
In any case, I don't think you can get a better price anywhere else in the World (nothing like getting them at the source )
Right now no, but when it comes out in US it will be even cheaper than $419. J&R is already taking preorders at $399.
CKNA is offline  
post #95 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 12:42 PM
AVS Special Member
 
CKNA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: CT, USA
Posts: 4,059
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
In any case, I don't think you can get a better price anywhere else in the World (nothing like getting them at the source )
Right now no, but when it comes out in US it will be even cheaper than $419. J&R is already taking preorders at $399.
CKNA is offline  
post #96 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 03:54 PM
Newbie
 
freoh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: California
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I am absolutely new to this board. I am planning to buy my first dvd player. So I have narrowed it down to the Philips DVD963SA (DVD962SA if they get cheaper soon), or the Sony NS755V or Panasonic RP82. I just wanted to get a reliable unit now that the technology has matured. I can't find any information about the Philips' reliability (of the 962 obviously).

Looking at www.audioreview.com it seems that many players develop problems within 2 years. Or maybe people without problems don't post.

I just hate to buy features that I won't notice. I don't know about upgrades for each unit. I do appreciate build quality. My receiver is a NAD 761 and speakers are Energy Veritas v2.2. I plan to go HDTV when they come down in price. DVDA and SACD don't matter to me.

Do you expect the extra $200 cost for the Philips will show? Will one brand last longer than another? I was hoping to get rid of my Yamaha CD player but everyone seems to say that CD playback is worse on DVD players. I suppose it costs nothing to keep it.

Thanks for your time.
freoh is offline  
post #97 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 04:44 PM
AVS Special Member
 
keyser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Iceland
Posts: 1,743
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
How does the 963 compare against other top quality players like the pioneer 737 and 747? I have a 737 and was thinking of switching if the 963 is better( and the bonus of pal progressive).

The 963 has crystalclear right? What are your settings on that?

Since the faroudja chip can do scaling to many resolutions, do you think that it´s possible to scale on the philips with some hack (would be really plasma friendly).. has Philips commented anything on that?

Has anyone tried the player with a plasma?

Birgir "keyser"
keyser is offline  
post #98 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 05:46 PM
Member
 
sandeepg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: San Jose CA
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Has anybody dealt with the source posted by "ainfante" ? What has been your experience? I am thinking of ordering with them but just want to check around first.
I did shoot them 3 emails today and their response was amazingly fast,
I was impressed.

-Sandeep
sandeepg is offline  
post #99 of 1839 Old 11-04-2002, 07:27 PM
Member
 
paulz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: France
Posts: 74
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
soundman38 : thank you for answering me... I thank I became fool (how awfull my english language is !!)

mariuszp : thank U very much... you are fabulous... I will buy a onefarall this week !
paulz is offline  
post #100 of 1839 Old 11-05-2002, 05:23 AM
Member
 
puddleduck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cambridge, United Kingdom
Posts: 47
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I'm UK based and desperately trying to get hold of a player, so I fired off an e-mail to soundform.nl

They replied very quickly :)

Note the price seems to have gone up, and they are now out of stock. I'll probably place an order Friday, once I've got Paypal up and running.

Dear Andrew,

We ran out of stock yesterday at the end of the day, but we will have more Friday, so we can ship then. You’d then receive the package by Wednesday.

Please note that with UK customers we can only accept PayPal as a form of payment… If you don’t have an account already, you can open one in www.paypal.com.

Total price for Friday shipping (Wednesday delivery) would be 440 Euros + Dutch VAT (19%) = 524 Euros = 335 GBP at current exchange rates.

Best regards,

Soundform Sales.

______
-Andy

Home Cinema: Philips 963SA, Panasonic AE-300, Denon AVC-A10SE, AudioLab 8000PX, Velodyne CHT-15, Tannoy R3, Tannoy M1, Tannoy MXC
Bedroom: Marantz CD63 MkII KI, NAD 3020e, Mission M51
puddleduck is offline  
post #101 of 1839 Old 11-05-2002, 05:47 AM
Member
 
ainfante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 132
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Puddleduck:

I was scared for a moment when you said the price had gone up. It didn't. :) It's still 419 Euros + shipping + 19% VAT. :) In you case it's 419 + 25 + 19% = 524 Euros.

I'll probably order from them too soon...

Best regards,

Afonso.
ainfante is offline  
post #102 of 1839 Old 11-05-2002, 10:34 AM
AVS Special Member
 
keyser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Iceland
Posts: 1,743
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Does the 963 play SVCD?

Does anyone know if scaling will be possible on this deck.. via hack or somthing, or has Philips just left the scaling properties of the faroudja chip unused?

Birgir "keyser"
keyser is offline  
post #103 of 1839 Old 11-05-2002, 05:59 PM
ZR
Member
 
ZR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 109
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Of course it plays SVCD. It will also play MP-3(!).

As per the scaling, there is still no further infomation.
ZR is offline  
post #104 of 1839 Old 11-05-2002, 06:20 PM
Newbie
 
Kondrup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Denmark
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Hi, there.

Any signs of croma bug on this new wonder.

And what about difficult disks ? No hang-ups, stutters, audio glitches ?

Also, does it play DVD-R's, DVD-RW's etc.

Jake
Kondrup is offline  
post #105 of 1839 Old 11-05-2002, 07:59 PM
Member
 
napp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Europe
Posts: 108
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by ainfante
Puddleduck:
I was scared for a moment when you said the price had gone up. It didn't. :) It's still 419 Euros + shipping + 19% VAT. :) In you case it's 419 + 25 + 19% = 524 Euros.
Afonso.
Well, but are the 963's coming from them already Region-free and Progressive Pal modified? I've really little time to spend to input codes and I don't have a Pronto...

Thanks for the info!
napp
napp is offline  
post #106 of 1839 Old 11-05-2002, 11:15 PM
Senior Member
 
videoking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Massapequa Park,NY
Posts: 245
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I'm looking forward to a word about its ability to upsample Redbook cds and how SACD's sound on this player.
If it can do those 2 things well and produce a nice picture then its a grand slam.

videoking
_________________________

"I hate to disillusion you, but the Batmobile went only thity-two miles an hour" Adam West.
videoking is offline  
post #107 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 12:31 AM
AVS Special Member
 
H8nXTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA, U.S.A.
Posts: 1,142
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 11
I'm sure that it plays DVD-R and DVD-RW, but does it play DVD+R and DVD+RW? If so, Sanyo CRD-BPDV2 DVD+R/W burner, here I come when you're out!
I'm sure that it does not come pre-modified from the factory, the remote hack is not difficult or time consuming, you only need to do it once. If you want if premodified, you can order it from *************, but I don't think it's worth the extra $200+ (including tax/duties), plus expensive shipping charges.

On a side not, with the new HD burn on the new Sanyo DVD burner, fitting a entire movie on one side of a VCD will be nice. With the Yamaha CRW-F1 t@2 option, it sure would be nice if there where such a thing as double data sided CD-R and CD-RW. Movie on one side, t@2 "label" on the other! How come no manufacterer has done this? Yamaha even...
H8nXTC is offline  
post #108 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 12:53 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pteittinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,790
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
H8nXTC,

judging by the 962SA I've got, the 963SA will play everything you throw at it.

Please, feel free to call me by my first name, Petri.
pteittinen is offline  
post #109 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 01:02 AM
Senior Member
 
kwokyan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 329
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Hi,

Philips 963SA is finally available in Hong Kong now! It is multi-region and can output PAL progressive scan out-of-the-box. One interesting thing is that the firmware version is a bit different:
5580 4.81.17 021001P32302200 7.9.0

Obviously the 'p-code' is different; but what is the meaning behind? :confused:
kwokyan is offline  
post #110 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 01:52 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pteittinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,790
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
ZR and soundman38,

perhaps I'm feeling a bit thick at the moment, thanks to a throbbing headache, but I would really appreciate a concise all-in-one instructions on how to make the 963SA both region-free and PAL progressive scan using a Palm V (I've got the necessary software needed to make Philips-brand players code-free). The info is probably scattered around this thread but it seemed to me that there is some confusion around the matter.

Thanks!

.petri.

Please, feel free to call me by my first name, Petri.
pteittinen is offline  
post #111 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 01:55 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pteittinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,790
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
kwokyan,

thanks for the info regarding the HK firmware. Perhaps someone might be tempted to try and input the string "159 323 022 00" into their 963SA and see what happens.

.petri.

Please, feel free to call me by my first name, Petri.
pteittinen is offline  
post #112 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 02:02 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pteittinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,790
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
OK, someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but to hack the European 963SA, the steps would be:

1) PAL p-scan hack: press "play", "159 222 023 00", then press play again. The player is now region 2 only but has PAL p-scan enabled.
2) input RC6 code (from Palm, for example) and enter "222 222 005 255" with original remote.

Is that it?

Hmm... how would one input the "159 323 022 00" as an RC6 string?

I was just wondering whether it would be possible to modify the European 963SA using the string from Kwokyan's firmware, as the HK 963SA is multi-region and PAL p-scan out-of-box.

.petri.

Please, feel free to call me by my first name, Petri.
pteittinen is offline  
post #113 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 02:10 AM
Member
 
ainfante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 132
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
napp,

I double checked with Soundform, and yes, the players they sell come PAL progressive and multi-region out of the box, unless you ask them not to do that.

Afonso.
ainfante is offline  
post #114 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 02:11 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pteittinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,790
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
ainfante,

thanks for that nugget of gold!

.petri.

Please, feel free to call me by my first name, Petri.
pteittinen is offline  
post #115 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 02:36 AM
Member
 
MRaitio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kirjala, Finland, Europe
Posts: 49
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 11
963 SA is NOW available in very limited quantity at hivizone for US$619 + shipping, minus 5% discount for members, who have bought something before from the company.

Sony VPL-HW55ES + Stewart Firehawk 182cm, OpenElec + 5 * Intel NUC, Vu+ Solo2 & T90+8lnb, 28Tb Thecus N7510 NAS, Denon AVR 2310, AMX+ 3*Ipad, 3*KefQ1, 4*KefQ2DS, HSU VTF-3 MK3 turbo
MRaitio is offline  
post #116 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 04:03 AM
Member
 
MariuszP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Warsaw, Poland, Europe
Posts: 75
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
kwokyan:

P-code is different because it's region 3 player and the hardware is different (no scarts I presume). I agree that it would be interesting to see what happens, especially when changing 23 to 22 in pal progressive hack.

Regards
MariuszP is offline  
post #117 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 04:10 AM
Member
 
jhonkanen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Vantaa, Finland
Posts: 33
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally posted by pteittinen
ainfante,

thanks for that nugget of gold!

.petri.
Just ordered mine! Thanks ainfante and Petri for the information! Hope it arrives next week.

Cheers,
Jorma
jhonkanen is offline  
post #118 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 04:24 AM
Member
 
jonny m's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 46
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
pteittinen
yup, that looks right.
jonny m is offline  
post #119 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 10:31 AM
AVS Special Member
 
keyser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Iceland
Posts: 1,743
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
The 963 is multivoltage and can be region hacked. Does that mean it doesn´t matter where I buy it, I can plug it in(us machines in europe and vice verca) and hack it and play all DVD´s?

Birgir "keyser"
keyser is offline  
post #120 of 1839 Old 11-06-2002, 12:01 PM
Member
 
ainfante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 132
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Keyser,

In a word: yes. You can buy it anywhere. It will work everywhere.

Best regards,

Afonso.
ainfante is offline  
Closed Thread DVD Players (Standard Def)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off