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Old 05-25-2004, 04:17 PM - Thread Starter
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I ordered a new momitsu V880 2 days ago from Extremephono and already recieved it!
Opened it up and hooked everything up in about 10 minutes to my Hitachi xwx20B RPTV and WoW! It blows away my Panny XP-30.
I can't believe it! I wasn't expecting to really see any difference but 1080i thru DVI is great!
Anyone interested in a new panny XP 30???

I will check back and let you know if I ever have any issues with it but it seems to work perfectly.
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Old 05-25-2004, 05:47 PM
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Welcome to the club, enjoy the excellent pq and features.

I've got mine hooked up to my Hitachi 51s500 rptv with 1080i over DVI and get blown away every time I watch a well mastered dvd.

And now I can buy dvds from all over the world looking for the best transfer also.

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See... we told ya !!

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So far I think my DVD collection only includes USA DVDs. What am I missing now that I have a Momitsu?

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Now, if they only would add high resolution audio playback to these nice players ... that would be a killer unit, especially if they manage to maintain the attractive pricing.

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So far I think my DVD collection only includes USA DVDs. What am I missing now that I have a Momitsu?

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Played my first region 2 Pal disc a week or so ago. Really cool to be able to 'beat the system'! No special setup. Simply put it in and it played, and the picture was terrific. Gotta love that Momitsu (those of us whose units work, anyway )

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but I digress......
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So far I think my DVD collection only includes USA DVDs. What am I missing now that I have a Momitsu?

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"Kill Bill" Region 2 - Full Color.
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Thanks guys!
You know I really hope that Jim Noyd,Vinc., Samsung and Panasonic have checked out the V880 if they hope to compete and see what we are looking for in a dvd player.
That blacker than black pluge stripe on DVE is more visable thru the DVI than on any player I have seen!
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That blacker than black pluge stripe on DVE is more visable thru the DVI than on any player I have seen!

what is that mean?? I have DVE, but I don't know how to use it.

Edit: I mean I know what blacker than black is - what is black pluge stripe?

I haven't watch the DVE yet, but does it have the insturction how to tune the TV?

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Old 05-26-2004, 04:19 PM - Thread Starter
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There are 3 stripes of various percentages of black for setting the black level(brightness) of the picture.Many players do not display the darkest below black bar.The momitsu thru DVI does which means the blacks are not crushed and you will see all the picture detail available if you set it up correctly.
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Steve, glad you like it, I love mine as well. Just a heads up, some movies only play if you have region 1 turned on not region 0 (Spiderman is an example). When this happened to me, I thought it was broken but I just needed to switch my region from 0 to 1.

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steviec: Is your impression about the Momitsu still the same?
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Old 07-08-2004, 03:53 PM - Thread Starter
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Wel I have owned 2 of them and I basically do feel that the v880 does what it is suppost to do and has a great picture.However,due to some rare skipping and lock up problems( which I attribute to the loader) I decided to go back to the more reliable xp30.
If a player doesn't work mechanically perfect all the time it doesn't matter how good the picture is and I don't want to fool with it.Just my personal opinion.
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so the region free things as well as the PAL vs NTSc would also work the other way around in other words, can I use a V880 in Europe with a PAL TV set and play any dvd ?

thx much
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I wish I could join the party but I'm very disappointed in my V880. I just got it this week to upgrade from my Toshiba SD4900(great player) and have not been able to see much of an improvement in picture quality.

Unfortunately my front pj doesn't have dvi input but supports 1080i and 720p through component. I understand that dvi is the ideal connection but I've been told by several forum members that the picture is still outstanding via the component out.

Don't get me wrong the picture is great and it is SLIGHTLY better than my Toshiba but for over $200 more I was looking for the "WOW" factor. Instead, it's more of a "pretty good" factor. I'd like to return the Momitsu but I'm going to get hit with a bs re-stocking fee. Oh well, live and learn.
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Windwaves, I don't think you can play NTSC DVDs on your PAL TV. The V880 will send the signal, but your TV can't handle the refresh rate. Those of us with projectors can handle a greater selection of refresh rates 50, 60, and some 72 hz or higher. At least this is my limited ( and I do mean limited) understanding.

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JGDragov, What display device are you using? On my Sony HS20 the DVI signal was far superior to the component. With DVI I do get a major wow factor.

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A bit curious....

if the momitsu V880 is getting a few people such great images, my question is why did it get such low scores on all the bench mark tests?! Seems wierd

I highly doubt the v880 BLOWS AWAY the XP30. Are you sure you where running the xp30 IN PROG scan mode? I have no doubt that a DVI connect will be sharper, to what degree over a excellent prog scan player? I doubt that much..

and myself am waiting for panasonics DVI player out next month.

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I'm using a NEC LT240K front projector. I admit I had my doubts about the 720p and 1080i images through component outputs but there are a lot of cool people on this forum who swear to it's legitimacy.

I'm not saying that this isn't the case I just know that what I'm seeing is a very good picture which is virtually what I have with my 4900. Maybe my eyes aren't very discerning when it comes to 1080i and 480p I just thought or hoped they would be.
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Hi, JGDragov,

As your projector has a VGA input, I suggest you buy a DVI-to-VGA adapter (it costs about US$10 only) and make use the DVI output of your Momitsu (using its analog RGB signals). Also, as the native resolution of your NEC is 1024 X 768, you can use the 768p output from the DVI of Momitsu to have a 1-1 pixel mapping. I think it may give you an improvement of picture quality over your current component connection.
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Originally posted by Run4two
Windwaves, I don't think you can play NTSC DVDs on your PAL TV. The V880 will send the signal, but your TV can't handle the refresh rate. Those of us with projectors can handle a greater selection of refresh rates 50, 60, and some 72 hz or higher. At least this is my limited ( and I do mean limited) understanding.

Jim


Most PAL TVs made in the last 8-10 years or so are dual format PAL/NTSC and play each signal at the right refresh rate. TVs made for the domestic US market are NTSC but rarely play PAL properly.
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Thanks kwokyan.

I've contemplated your suggestion myself. I'm just a little down on the V880 right now and even an investment of $10 makes me feel like I'm out more money.
It's like I said the picture is fine, and like you said the adapter and 768 output could improve the picture. I just feel like I might be chasing something that is only going to be so good without a dvi to dvi connection.
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Originally posted by kwokyan
Hi, JGDragov,

As your projector has a VGA input, I suggest you buy a DVI-to-VGA adapter (it costs about US$10 only) and make use the DVI output of your Momitsu (using its analog RGB signals). Also, as the native resolution of your NEC is 1024 X 768, you can use the 768p output from the DVI of Momitsu to have a 1-1 pixel mapping. I think it may give you an improvement of picture quality over your current component connection.

It'll be the best $10 you spend. I found the analog DVI to be much better than the component outputs.
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I am interested in the 880 but have seen posts suggesting there will be image degradation when the DVI cable exceeds 5m. As I would need a 12m cable, I'm reluctant to buy the 880.

Anyone have any experience or opinions regarding using a long DVI run on the 880?
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Originally posted by wolfgang armbru
I am interested in the 880 but have seen posts suggesting there will be image degradation when the DVI cable exceeds 5m. As I would need a 12m cable, I'm reluctant to buy the 880.

Anyone have any experience or opinions regarding using a long DVI run on the 880?


Hi,

I am using a 14m. DVI cable from the Momitsu to a HT1100. PQ is still great. Before this, I tried a 15m. DVI cable from a another supplier. It did not work. Therefore, be careful when buying DVI cables >10m.

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Originally posted by JGDragov
Thanks kwokyan.

I've contemplated your suggestion myself. I'm just a little down on the V880 right now and even an investment of $10 makes me feel like I'm out more money.
It's like I said the picture is fine, and like you said the adapter and 768 output could improve the picture. I just feel like I might be chasing something that is only going to be so good without a dvi to dvi connection.

JGDragov,

I think the biggest mistake you made is believing that the component output of the V880 produces a fine picture, especially when upscaled to 720p or 1080i. It has been reported many times here and in official reviews that the V880 component output is significantly inferior to it's DVI output and that there are many other DVD players out there that provide a better component picture. Take kwokyan's advice and get the DVI-VGA cable. You will see a significant improvement!

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I have not seen a "significantly" better pq with dvi over component with my v880. The pq is slightly better, more stable, but very close on my Hitachi 51s500 rptv.

The v880 is very noticably superior to my prior 480i/p player with the 1080i signal.

imo, the v880 over dvi is slightly superior, but the component is excellent and I would be very happy with it.

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After over 8 months of usage of my Momitsu V-880, I have learned that I get the best picture using 720P over component.

I had been using DVI with the 768-Wide setting for a native-rate signal.

Imagine my surprise to learn that I could get an even BETTER picture by using 720P over component. Even 1080i component doesn't play as well.

Given the multitude of combinations between TVs/displays/projectors and differences in cables, I think it's impossible for anyone to make definitive judgements as to which is the best connection method.

I am grateful that the V-880 allows choices in order to select the best combination for me.

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N.S. Ng,

I am in need of a >10M DVI cable, could you please tell me what brand cable worked for you.

Anyone else?

Thanks!
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