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Could someone post a review on Oppo DV971H Dvd Playerhttp://www.extremephono.com/Oppo_DV971.htm

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This player was identified some time ago and we are waiting for the bold first purchaser to come forward. It looks promising although with the same Faroudja FLI2310, it will almost certainly have the macroblocking problem of the other players using that chip. Macroblocking doesn't ruin my DVB318 for me so if the build quality is good, it is apparently manufactured by an experienced Chinese OEM Winbase Electronics, it might be better built than the Momitsu, LiteOn and Bravo upscaling players and ultimately be the leader of the inexpensive upconversion players.

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Once I know for sure it plays my DVD-R and +RW i will buy it. Casey at extremephono said he will test the player for me..
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I know it will do PAL to NTSC, but does anyone know if it is supposed to be region free out of the box?

If it is, I might have to try one to go along with my v880. I hear the Faroudja chip does better with anime. And since I'm starting to add more anime titles to my collection it might be worth it to add this player to my "quiver".

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According to the extremephono site the players have been delayed at customs until 12/21.

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subha,

The gist I got was that it would play -R. Some players wil digest anything, but even in a format they are suppoesed to play much has to do with the media you burned to and the speed it was burned. I've had much better luck with copies I burned at 2x than I have the ones I tried to push at 8x. Anytime you are burning a DVD slower is better.

I guess what I am saying is it is a bit much to determine copied DVD playability on one of your single disks. If Casey comes back and tells you that the Oppo wouldn't load your disk, I would need to know how you burned that disk before I would make a general comment on what it would play.

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Wensteph,
I did try burning at different speeds a while ago and that didn't help much. However i would like to inform you that the DVD-R and +RW plays fine on Sony DVD players. I have one right now whose model# i can't remember (got it from Costco). It also played on the Sony HDMI player, and probably all JVC models, as well on Pioneer.

I had trouble playing it on Panasonic, Denon, Toshiba, Samsung.

And yes i have seen cheap DVD players like Cyberhome handle these disks, and yes these disks do play on PCs as well.
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The Panasonic 97S will play both + & - R disks. Even though the manual states
that only - will play. I have the unit at it plays both with no problems.
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I tried Panasonic S97 with both my DVD-R and +RW, it did not play them at all. The +RW was not even loading..
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I will take it back. Yes it did play the -R, however it skips one chapter to the next within a few seconds of playing a current chapter. which is the typical behavior i have seen on most players.
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subha,

I've got probably the same Costco Sony. You're right, it will digest anything. The Momitsu is the same way, I've never had trouble with it playing one of my dupes.

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Even my panasonic RP-82 has some issues playing DVD-R that my Norcent DP 501M played. So..

Im interested in the Oppo..

I wanted to clarify..when is the Faroudja used?


Video Processing: Oppo OPDV-971H DVI DVD player's DVI output reproduces the highest quality upconverted images in 480P, 576P (PAL), 576I (PAL), 720P, and 1080I output resolutions. Using the top of the line FLI 2310 Faroudja DCDi (TM) technology, video is analyzed on a single pixel granularity to detect presence or absence of angled lines and edges, select the optimal filtering to eliminate motion artifacts. In the film mode, DCDi (TM) properly handles 3:2 and 2:2 pulldown as well as detecting and correcting bad edits. For video-based material, FLI2310 removes the coloration artifacts produced by common video decoders.

Doesnt say here..but is it only used in 480i?
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I think it might be a disk or recorder issue for those who can not get the
R-or R+ disks to work. I have had no problem with any disks I recorded.

I would suggest that you update the firmware on your recorders. Many recorder manufactures are updating firmware to accommodate newer
disks.
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I wanted to clarify..when is the Faroudja used?
Doesnt say here..but is it only used in 480i?

It might be similar to the way the samsung's work in that the faroudja solution is only applied to the dvi outputs for progressive deinterlacing and scaling (therfore not 480i) and not the component output. Ive never read what they use for the component deinterlacing... possibly a zoran.
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Faroudja is used for deinterlacing, so it will be used on output signals 480p and up.
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Faroudja on 480p+ on DVI sounds really good.

So why is this player thread on page 3? Are we just sick of crappy quality upconverting DVDs?
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Because Oppo is a no name brand compared to other DCDi upconverting players like Zenith, Panny, Samsung, Denon, etc.

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Not much mention here because the player isn't on sale in the US and the imported players are in customs until 12/21. So it will be a few more days until the player is in the hands of the public.

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With specs like this..

Audio DAC
6 x 192KHz/24-bit
Video D/A Converter
6 x 108Mhz/12-bit

DVI-D x1, support 480p, 576p, 720p, 1080i output
Component (Y/Pb/Pr) x1, supports 480i, 480p, 576i, 576p

I'm hoping for at least RP-82 like quality output at 1080i.
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Because Oppo is a no name brand compared to other DCDi upconverting players like Zenith, Panny, Samsung, Denon, etc.

It is made by a Chinese OEM that makes several players for other companies including at least some from brands you just mentioned. The Oppo may actually end up one of the better players capable of playing all of those formats. It looks like the best but we won't know until somebody gets one and posts a review.

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I think the mention of "Chinese" makes people run as far "west" as possible. Little do they know that all these hack DVD players came from China or the like.
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I personally like the chinese players from lesser known companies as it seems as though they bend little rules like macro off and secret codes.....imo it is because they dont have to fear political pressure from bending these little rules....

PS: I am wanting the zensonic 5oo myself to act as a server for all my movies....

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I agree that Chinese players can have unique abilities (I bought the Neuneo HVD108, Daewoo 5700, and LiteON LVD2001 myself), but there is somewhat more of a gamble ordering overseas compared major-name-brand players. We all know that a lot of the big name brands can be built in China, but there may be more support and better warranty with a big name like Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and Zenith vs. the no name brand.

Still Oppo may be the hidden gem that needs exploration and some brave beta testers The Zensonic 500 does sound nice for a network player (similar and possibly better than Iodata network player) using the newer Sigma chipset.

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Yes i agree also...an earlier poster was saying that this faroujda 2310 chipset had the macroblocking problem??I thought that was the 2301??Can someone please confirm?

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Yes i agree also...an earlier poster was saying that this faroujda 2310 chipset had the macroblocking problem??I thought that was the 2301??Can someone please confirm?

Both. The FLI2301 and the FLI2310 have the macroblocking problem.

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This player was identified some time ago and we are waiting for the bold first purchaser to come forward.

If I can call them and put it on a credit card, I may well go for it.

Caveats - I won't buy from a dealer I can't call, and I see no phone number on their web site.

I also will not use paypal, see http://www.paypalsucks.com for some of the reasons why.

While not necessarily a deal breaker, I have questions about their return policy. They apparantly have a 30 day money back gaurantee for the products listed on their "order now" page, but none of the DVD players are ordered thru that page -

If they will give me a 30 day return and put it on my credit card, as far as I am concerned it's a no-brainer.

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If I can call them and put it on a credit card, I may well go for it.

Caveats - I won't buy from a dealer I can't call, and I see no phone number on their web site.

I also will not use paypal, see http://www.paypalsucks.com for some of the reasons why.

While not necessarily a deal breaker, I have questions about their return policy. They apparantly have a 30 day money back gaurantee for the products listed on their "order now" page, but none of the DVD players are ordered thru that page -

If they will give me a 30 day return and put it on my credit card, as far as I am concerned it's a no-brainer.

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Hey Ken,

I've ordered from Extremephono before (a Momitsu DV-880) via PayPal and found them to be highly reliable. I've never had to call them because the Momitsu worked as advertised.

I currently have an Oppo on order from them. I will be posting a mini-review and pics next week. Hopefully by then I will have the player in my hands.


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Hey Ken,

I've ordered from Extremephono before (a Momitsu DV-880) via PayPal and found them to be highly reliable. I've never had to call them because the Momitsu worked as advertised.

I currently have an Oppo on order from them. I will be posting a mini-review and pics next week. Hopefully by then I will have the player in my hands.


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I look forward to your review with interest.

I have sent them an e-mail asking about credit card purchase other than paypal, and for a phone number, and will see how they respond.

However, I am unlikely to purchase anything through Paypal _grin_. There are any number of places I can buy DVD players of various sorts _bigger grin_

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I emailed them in the past for a phone number and they would not send them, and eventually I just ordered the player via paypal because of all the sucesses people here had (even though this was against my comfort zone, I don't buy from ebay people who won't provide a phone number incase of non-payment/delivery)

I received the player (V880) quickly, but was damaged because of the skimpy box and I had to remove the cover and reinstall the cover so that the drawer could open. The unit performed well after that, even thought the remote is annoying (I have the first version not the DLX or the network version of the momitsu.

I'm sure he's in it for business reasons not social hense the lack of customer service.
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