Originally posted by Auditor55
2) I believe that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will play SD DVD's just fine, on par with most players available today.
You already stated that current players aren't good enough for you, including two world-class machines (3910 and 59AVi), so there goes that argument
Given that you cannot tolerate the 3910, I don't think you will be happy with a $200 player, even in the short-term.
Today's SD DVD players, in my opinion,
have hit the ceiling, that is why there isn't much difference between a $200. player and one costing $3,500.
That is simply a rediculous statement. There was a huge difference in my $2000 Sony 9000ES compared to every other player I've tried between $100 and $5000, and it's quite dated now. I bought that years ago and never regretted it. In fact I got to enjoy great video and great SACD for 4 years while the "wait for it" people were waiting for the perfect player to come along for $200. Now they are still waiting apparently.
If they really have hit the ceiling then wouldn't now be the optimal time to buy a good one?
3) At least in the case of HD-DVD, the first player by Toshiba will cost $999.
The Denon 5910 is $3,500. I believe the Toshiba will be a superior piece of equipment over the 5910 or all existing 480P and "gimmicky" upscaling players.
What?! It took almost 8 years of evolving to get DVD video and audio technology to the 5910 level. The fact that one can make SD look great on a 90" screen is amazing to me. What makes you think the 1st generation HD players won't have serious issues? It's going to be almost like starting all over again (new compression formats, bugs, buggy titles, format wars, etc). They probably won't even be universal players to begin with. Just how much longer are you willing to wait?
4) The Toshiba is HD-DVD, folks who have purchased D-VHS players and tapes have already given testimony of how they blow SD DVD's away, but they are tapes, so the format was kind of still born.
We're sure it will be great but let's not talk about software that doesn't exist yet. There are plenty of players out there with great picture and sound right now, capable of playing every disc released to date. I've got my HDTV on cable which is nice, but I'd rather watch a DVD of something I actually WANT to see. It doesn't perform so bad in comparison either, sometimes better!
If a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD will make DVD's look the same as they are now, but have the ability to record and also offer true HD PQ at cheaper price than these souped of SD players, I think that's a big advantage over what we have now.
I think an inexpensive HD player would make a nice complement, eventually, to a system already containing a world-class universal player bought today. You could buy an economical digital "transport only" unit knowing you've already got great audio and SD covered. Finding one that does everything to your satisfaction will probably be difficult, especially for the first couple years, not to mention expensive. But for now you can benefit from years of audio and video refinement, product maturity and a vast library.
I know you're thinking HD players will inherit this and just pick up where DVD left off. Hopefully it will get off to a better start than DVD did. But remember when DVD first came out people were amazed by the picture but said LD and CD players had better sound (some still do) - even though they could easily share the same audio technology!
I double dare you to buy the first cheapie Toshiba HD-DVD player that comes out. I bet you will be the first to say "This sucks, my Apex was better" or "I'm waiting for _______". There will always be hi-end machines and low-end machines. Pay now and enjoy, or pay later.