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post #541 of 2203 Old 12-23-2005, 10:47 AM
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Thanks Dana, right again. HOWEVER, if you just start moving through the discs without going into either the Display or Explorer views, it exhibits the behavior that I've outlined. I shouldn't have to go into either view if I know what disc I want to play - those are extra, unnecessary movements that I didn't have to do with the F727. On the previous unit I could just start rotating the carousel and move to the desired slot. In addition, the display panel would show the title in addition to the disc number, obviating the need to go into an extranneous mode just to decipher the title.

Again, realizing that the behavior between this and my former unit is different and will take some getting used to, but my point is that the design is pretty poor and not well thought out. It is painfully obvious that they had little or no end user input into the interface design.

I know, I know... get over it and get used to it! The serenity prayer comes to mind...

Thanks again for the input!
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Serenity now!!

Agree...clearly Sony could have used more input from usability/customer testing, or had the input and no time/$ to implement what they suggested...since I did not come from a different experience w/another megachanger, I've been happpy overall w/how the Sony does it. Innocence (or it was ignorance, right?) is bliss.

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P.S. I read the manual cover to cover before even actually receiving the unit, again while playing with it the first time, and once more last night (I'm a techie from way back), so am very familiar with the content and details outlined.

Acckkkk!! You have WAY more patience than I do...impressive! I tried to read the manual front to back just once and experienced flashes in my peripheral vision, a loud thrumming in my ears, and moments of vertigo....
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I'd like to get a 995 but it will get more use as a CD player than for DVD movies and I don't want to give up any audio quality. My existing older Sony DVD player has discrete lasers for CD play and for DVD play. Literature on the 995 doesn't say anything about whether it has this feature. The DAC isn't an issue; I'll use the 995's coax audio out to a stand-alone two channel DAC. Can anyone tell me if it uses a single laser for both CDs and DVDs or if has one for each? Any other comments on CD audio quality will be appreciated.

I looked at the Pioneer F727, but the price is 50% higher and its design is at least five years old.
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I'm using with a Westinghouse 37" LCD monitor that is supposed to be HDCP-compliant. It will not output more than a 480p signal. Contacted Sony online and they took me through all the setup steps (which I'd already done) and found it couldn't work, so they told me to call the 'video specialist group' or something like that. So, I called and opened a case and got a call back the next day telling me the problem is this player does not upscale DVD content. They say it will play high-def DVD's, any content that is recorded at 720 or 1080, but that it does not upscale.

This is in direct contradiction of the current marketing on their website, as well as the manual and the info printed on the side of the box. I am starting to think about a class-action suit for deceptive trade practices. The only thing this unit is good for is eliminating shelves full of DVD cases, otherwise it does NOT live up to expectations.

I have my 995 connected via HDMI - DVI cable and a component cable to a DVDO iScan HD+ video processor. I did this to see if a 1080i signal would look better than a 480i signal. When I look at my input signal on the DVI interface of the VP it is 1080i, so the Sony is up-converting the signal. I'm using my VP to do the de-interlacing by inputting a 480i signal then a 1:1 pixel map to my projector. The 480i input looks best.

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Well, I can now confirm the lost data scenario... I turned on the unit this afternoon to set up my A/V surround settings, and pressed Folder to abort the loading of the current disc. I then pressed Display, then Enter, and the display on the unit said Folder All but the message on the screen indicated it was 'Loading'. I left it like that for about 30 minutes (there were no audible indications it was doing anything), then tried pressing Stop, Folder, Return, etc. on the remote to no avail, then tried pressing Stop, Return, Folder, Disc Eject, Open/Close on the unit also to no avail. I then pressed the Power Off button a couple of times without response, and held it in for about 5 seconds without any indication or change. I then went to make a sandwich and found that the unit had powered off in the mean time, and when I powered back up all the information that I had previously entered was gone (including about 60-70 of my CD titles and artists that put me on my initial rant). All discs were indicating the ubiquitous ?, so for the last couple of hours it has been going through the Load process once again.

I'm not too sure I'm going to enter all the information again - I've got the lists in Excel and printed out and might just reference them for now.
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Bummer... See what happens when you talk trash about the Sony? It gets even. If I had to re-enter all my discs I'll be a very unhappy camper.

Trying to protect myself...when you say:

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Well, I can now confirm the lost data scenario... I turned on the unit this afternoon to set up my A/V surround settings, and pressed Folder to abort the loading of the current disc. I then pressed Display, then Enter, and the display on the unit said Folder All but the message on the screen indicated it was 'Loading'...

...are you saying you've done this same series of commands before and lost data, or ? I've used a similar sequence of keypresses before and haven't lost any data yet.

I tried to replicate your steps but they didn't actually work for me...

1. ...pressed Folder to abort the loading of the current disc
- Brings up the list of DVDs in Explorer view
2. ... I then pressed Display
- Doesn't do anything - no change to screen though player lights up to indicate received a command
3. ... then Enter,
- Brings up the context menu for the currently hightligted disc (Back, Play, Details, File, and Edit options)
4. ... and the display on the unit said Folder
- As noted, pressing Display doesn't do anything when in explorer view

Tried above steps starting from a blank screen, assuming maybe you'd cancelled the Explorer view before pressing Display in step 2 above. When I did that I ended up in the disc number field w/the "---" prompt waiting for me to enter a disc number.

Are you doing this on the device, or on the remote?

Do you think it's possible you have a bad unit? I haven't lost any data in several weeks of use, unplugged the unit a few times to move it, etc., and all has been solid so far. Oops...I did lose title data for one disc, one that the Sony initially recognized on its own and then seemed to forget (Hang 'Em High, Clint Eastwood). That's the only data issue I've had so far...knock on wood (my head).
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Actually, I'm saying that I've now experienced what others have previously experienced. I've seen several posts about the 'Loading' hang, followed by either powering down or unplugging the unit, followed by the sheer dismay of finding that the hours of data entry had been replaced by simplistic question marks

I don't think that it is a repeatable event, but it is definitely a software 'feature'. I'm not sure which button press caused it, but I have to believe it is a timing issue. I'm sure you could try a thousand times to recreate and would be unsuccessful, as would I, but I'm also equally convinced that it is more common than obscure (given the number of similar reports I've already seen). The initial steps were performed on the remote, and I had a feeling when I saw the "Loading" message pause on the screen that I might be in trouble. I don't believe the unit is defective - I think it is part and parcel of the design.

And you may be right... the Sony might be just spiteful regarding my reviews, although given the infantile interface design I hardly believe that it could read!

Don't get me wrong - I entered into this with the best of intentions and expectations, otherwise I would have never sold my F727. I only want to ensure that anyone else contemplating the purchase has an opportunity to know its limitations and quirks, as well as its strengths. I read a great many reviews before deciding to make the purchase, but overall there were none that I found that outlined the plethora of issues to lead me to believe my experience would be such. Que sera, sera.
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OK, thanks for the clarification.

In my opinion you're overstating the design issues ("plethora" seems a bit much) w/the deck...it isn't nirvana, it ain't chopped liver, either.

I certainly hope you don't experience any more data problems if you decide to keep it.
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?????? What happens if you put in a blank DVD disk.....and when you go turn off 995 just go to blank disk and turn off!!!In theory shouldn't it load the blank disk very quickly..so there should be almost no wait time to select another movie correct??
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I'll find out tomorrow....I'll know this 995 within a month or so.....so if it can be made easier I'll find it...stay tuned
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This player is almost more trouble than it is worth. The only good thing it is for is to store DVDs. You are pretty much forced to buy this thing or wait for sony or pioneer to make a new model.

I can't believe people are being forced to put in a blank DVD for a "placeholder" this is ridiculous.

I can't believe this thing doesn't have cd-text.

You should be able to put any disc title in whether there is a disc in there or not. An icon should pop up indicating whether there is a disc in that particular slot. So I take a few movies on a trip and I have to leave the player on and the door open so I don't lose all the info? Are you kidding me?

If anybody is unsure about buying this thing I suggest you wait until something better comes out. This player is an exercise in frustration.

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One other anomaly or quirk that contradicts the information in the manual - has anyone noticed the behavior of the Disc Change indicator? Mine comes on when the player is powered up, and to this point I've never seen it go out. Whenever I push the Disc Change button nothing happens at all... the indicator stays lit, there is nothing additional displayed on the display or screen, and it appears to have no effect. According to the insertion instructions you are supposed to push the button (at which point the indicator is supposed to light up), then rotate to the appropriate slot and insert the disc. I don't get it... is it just me? I saw the same behavior on a 985 that I received (and returned) a couple of days before I got the 995.

This one I think I do understand.

The Disc Change button and the Direct Search button (directly underneath) work in tandem. If you press Disc Change then when you turn the dial the discs change.

If you press Direct Search then the Disc Change light goes off and when you turn the dial chapters or tracks can be accessed.

So basically, Disc Change is for the entire player and Direct Search is for the particular disc that is loaded.

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Well, I'm in for one or two (been a fan since my 985-purchase), and I've wanted to try a decent upscaling dvi-or-hdmi player, anyhoo...
Does anyone have more than 2 of these and/or 1-2 AND a 985? I know the 985 was selectable for up-to 3-per-remote on Rear (and this 995 on Front) BUT did Sony keep the Codes similar? IOW, can I use a new/995 remote to control up-to three of the 985/995/995's?
Also (995-specific, I don't think it's 'on' the 985?) is the CustomPictureMode worth playing-with? :
"Standard: Displays a standard picture
Dynamic 1: Increases the picture contrast and the color intensity
Dynamic 2: Further increasing the picture contrast and the color intensity
Cinema 1: Enhances details in dark areas by increasing the black level
Cinema 2: White colors brighter, black colors richer, and color contrast increased
Memory: Individually adjust/store settings: picture, brightness, color, and hue"
Anyone have any 'love' for above?
Lastly, it apparently makes no-diff [re: HDCP] if player-output is HDMI/DVI (and if dvd isn't content-protected [backup-dvd's makes this moot?]) BUT, what needs to be 'present' at display for upscaled-input? Does the dig>vga-input (or any dvi/HDMI-input) HAVE to be HDCP-compliant -- for the connection to even-function?
I have an well-aged-NEC plasma with only s-vid/component/vga-rgb inputs, and rather-hope the 480p/720p/1080i-scaled output will 'improve' over the ancient-scaling/'AccuBlend' in the display (possibly via dvi>vga-cable/adapter OR 'transcoding' [needed?] the HDMI/digital progressive-or-interlaced signal to the vga?) OR, if not 'practical', make use of the HDMI (somehow) to a DIY-LCD-projector [soon, I hope]. Can any HDMI/dvi output from an upscaling-player be easily converted to input on ANY vga-input (compliancy for some, and not others?)? Or, maybe a 'upscale-to-component-player' is what I really-need for this plasma? [Wish I knew exactly how all-this can be accomplished, and the HDCP-'limitations' for commercial v. 'backed-up' dvd's...? Sans 'hacks', I mean...]
In order to even-'see' 480p-output from ANY player on my NEC 4210W PlasmaSync, I HAVE to 'backup' any of my original-dvd's...otherwise the signal is trashed (!?!) using Component-input (amusing, no?). 4210W's are SUPPOSED to scale 480p/720p/1080i into it's 853X480-Native (via component, presumably) and up-to-SXGA (over vga, presumably) and convert-all to Native via 'AccuBlend' (but its 'scaling', apparently, is 'suk' -- thus my interest in some upscaling-player and/or 'real'-scaler "someday").
Anyone here with advice about any of 'this stuff'? 'Pre-EDTV' gets a somewhat 'complicated', it seems...!

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Yeah but the 995 can not play back a DVD-Audio disk with true DVD-Audio sound, it will only just play them like a "normal" DVD.

I am still not convinced that the 995 does not play DVD-A 5.1 tracks. I tested with Fleetwood Mac -Rumors on DVD-A. I play it, and set my Sony STR-DE845 receiver to the DVD input, and I get the DVD Dolby track. When I switch over to 5.1 channel, I get the DVD-A 5.1 channel mix. The 995 is definitely putting out a 5.1 signal to my receiver as well as the regular Dolby track through the optical output. Check it out for yourself and correct me if I am wrong.
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I had a 985 and was very pleased with it compared to my older JVC. After 6 months it went south so Sony sent me a 995 as it's replacment. I have a question if I am running HDMI to my Plasma can I still run a coaxial or optical cable to my home theater reciever? I am expecting my ne Dell W5001c on the 28th and am trying to plan out how my components are going to hook up.
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Yes it will output audio out the digital output when using HDMI . I have mine
hooked up that way . HDMI to plasma and digital audio to HK-8000 .

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I am still not convinced that the 995 does not play DVD-A 5.1 tracks.

It don't matter if you are convinced or not, but the 995 definitely does not play back a DVD-Audio disk in the true DVD-Audio format. Sony owns and supports the SACD format, and they do not support the DVD-Audio format, other than it will play the normal type 5.1 tracks that are also on a DVD-Audio disk. ALSO, you can not get true DVD-Audio sound through either a optical or coaxial digital connection, it requires either i-Link or a 6 cable analog connections. And you said that you are using a optical connection, so even if it could, which it can't! You could not even get it with that type of connection anyway. Just look in your owners manual where it lists what formats the 995 plays/supports, and you will not find DVD-Audio as one of them in the list.
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Can any HDMI/dvi output from an upscaling-player be easily converted to input on ANY vga-input (compliancy for some, and not others?)?

Although some DVI devices can be, all depending upon what kind of DVI signal is actually being outputted by the device. But DVD players DVI is not that kind. But as for HDMI, and then when you add the HDCP it has...... You are just not going to find any easy way to do it.
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Was the issue with a movie playing automatically when the unit is turned on ever solved, or anyone have a way to jerry rig a solution?

I think if its unfixable that Ill just leave the unit always on, my question being, how much power do you think the unit takes just sitting there idoly? still outputtinga picture but not playing a movie?

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It's Energy Star compliant so I'm sure its not burning much power.

I leave mine on all the time.

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Although some DVI devices can be, all depending upon what kind of DVI signal is actually being outputted by the device. But DVD players DVI is not that kind. But as for HDMI, and then when you add the HDCP it has...... You are just not going to find any easy way to do it.

A lot of peep's report 'good-image/scaling' after connecting a dvd-player, simple dvi->vga-cabling via 480p (apparently to a 'sync-on-green-style' LCD-monitors often 1280X768 or greater?). I've never seen it work, myself...?
As for splitting dvi-from-HDMI, it's fairly standard/compliant, and HDCP shouldn't 'kick-in' unless content is non-SDTV or other HD/Commercial-content from dvd/player. Standard/backup'd dvd's shouldn't HDCP-provoke...? Hope not...!
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I just looked in the manual. States 25 watts of power. so if left on it is like having a 25 watt light on all the time.

Also has anyone tried a blank dvd in like disk one and then changing to disk one before turning off to see if it load faster.

I am thinking about buying one this week and I thought about making a dvd that say something like "Welcome to My Theater" with background music.
That way until I was ready to actually watch the movie when I had company over it would start on my previous movie.
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But 25 watts is probably its max power usage, which is probably when playing a movie, but with no mechanical movement and it just displaying a screen saver id imagine it would be quite abit less.

I just got the player yesterday, Im pretty pleased other than the few odd quirks that sony should have easily been able to ring out.

Like it sorting movies that start with "The ...." under "T". and the autoplay thing, yarg, but leaving it on isnt too bad maybe even better.
Cant wait to ditch my CRT, cause the straight lines of the menu are warped by the bad geometry.

I entered in the names of some movies and then unplugged it for 15 mins, kept the info for ones I had entered in, not for ones it found on its own. Its not very good at finding the title of a disc, not even paramount ones.

On a sheet in the box it reads, "Simple, Organized", haha, organized maybe, but simple, not quite. The remote is terrible, why the disc explorer and player itself need seperate modes i dont understand, but im just gonna teach my learning remote the functions that Ill need all under one mode.

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Since most people are having trouble recognizing movie titles are people manually entering "The" at the beginning of the title or at the end after an apostrophe?
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The blank disc works....just remember to go to this blank disk before turning off!!!!!!I 'm going to load all 227 disk by tommorrow and start typing!!!...p.s ...I read somewere in this thread that there was only 4 or 5 catagories for DVD movies to choose from...there is about 10 that I saw..and about 10 for music!
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Since most people are having trouble recognizing movie titles are people manually entering "The" at the beginning of the title or at the end after an apostrophe?

I entered them w/leading "The" and now wish I hadn't...if I was doing it again I think I'd do the trailing ",The" approach.

My wife disagrees, however, and likes movies titled w/their "real" title, and claims they are easier to find that way.

Go figure...opposites attract.

One limitation...you can't edit the titles of films recognized by the player, so that could lead to a few inconsistencies if the player recognizes titles w/a leading "The."
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After weeks of searching i've given up...

I have a brand new 995 here "in the box", but i need a region free unit...
Since for this one there is no hack (yet), i want to trade it for an older model, which is hackable for PAL and region free.

If there is someone who has an older Sony (or even another multi-disc brand with at least component out) that would like the HDMI function, please feel free to e-mail me. I would like to trade with your older unit.

Greetings,

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I am a new owner of the 995. Great forumthanks everyone.

I have a 135 discs loaded and labeled. Also have the list on spreadsheet as recommended. Overall, the unit works great. No problems and it really cleaned up the mess of CD/DVD cases.

I did notice that Photo CDs do not auto start, so there is another idea for slot one.
But the image quality, which look great on the computer, is very poor on the 995.
Anyone else have this problem? ( HMDI, 1080 feed)

On music files (MP3s), playback is great but I still can not get a list of files on the disc. I would also like to use a DVD disc (vs. CD) to increase capacity. Anyone know of a good (as in free) format converter (mp3 to vob) or another idea?

Finally, I love jgibo1s idea on the Welcome to my Home Theater banner..way cool. Jgibo, please share your experience when completed, may be even the vob.
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Question. I'm debating on picking up one of these units, but I want to make sure its kid friendly. Is the interface intuitive enough for kids to scroll through and select a movie? Is there any where that there is a screen capture or image of the interface I can see? Are the discs "parent password controlled" for those discs you don't want your kids to access?

Also, its my understanding that there is no RS232 interface. I'm thinking about a HTPC down the road, is there anyway to interface the two via DVD Lobby or something similar?

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I also just received the 995 and am wondering if I should consider "upgrading" to the ES model. I have searched high and low and the only reason I can find for going to the ES would be the RS232 input.

What are people with the 995 doing for organization of their DVDs? Are people mainly using the interface provided by the changer, or are they using their Pronto remotes, etc. for organization (wondering because I also just purchased an MX-850). Screenshots of the interface would be greatly appreciated.

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My kids are 12 and 14, and use it w/out any issues. My wife uses it as well, which would match up w/an 8 year old in technical years.

Seriously, if they are old enough to use the remote for turning on watching TV or DVDs now, you can show them which button on the remote brings up the disc explorer movie listing, and navigation in the explorer is up/down arrow keys or page up/page down and then select and choose play. Simple to use...I wish it sorted by name within Genre, but the ability to change sorts from name to disc # to genre quickly helps make it easier to find a disc.

We have about 200+ discs in our changer now, and are loving the lack of a plethora of DVD boxes to store, keep organized, open/close, and find we are making better use of our DVD collection now that it is very simple to find, load, and play one.

Picture of explorer attached that I "borrowed" from another thread.
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