Originally Posted by chuna
If we were to release the Z500 without HDMI., HDCP etc we would have released this long time ago, but the fact is HDMI, HDCP, certifications for HDMI all take a lot longer to do than a simple DVI interface which has no regulations , no certification etc. HDCP is also not an easy task to implement.
Excuse me but what's the point in this HDMI/HDCP if next year you'll have another player as you write below? Currently the percentage of HDCP-enabled display devices is under the generally considered one-digit error margin, I believe.
There are also other things that we decided to do to the firmware which all took time. Again like I said if we wanted to do a Snazio type device, we could have just bought a 3rd party license and released it instantly but thats not where we are going with this. We decided to do things a bit differently for reasons explained above and then add things like FLAC audio support, a better remote which we had to design from scratch.
I see you're trying to grab a lot but I don't see the reasons. Why? Only reason I can think of is that you thought you can save money on in-house development
As for the announcement, at that time, we did not consider HDMI, HDCP, and also the remote etc.
Now this is really interesting: how do you mean this? As far as I know nobody without stable experience wouldn't risk to add extra functionality to an already designed, announced product, especially not during his first firmware development.
you didn't have that experience, so question raises itself: how come you thought you could make it not only cheaper than Syabas-like company but even adding more features on-the-fly and still banking on a timely release?
Frankly, this sounds pretty crazy to me.
We decided to make a lot of changes and as a result put our development time out by a lot. As for 8622, if you know anything about firmware development, we cant simply stick a chip in there and voila it works.
Well, apparently I know enough to not to think that I could not only do a better job on my own than a company makes it for a living but even add more and more extras during my first development...
According to your own statement over at your forum this is going to be your first in-house firmware, right?
Just doesnt work that way, Code has to be changed and will take more development time.
No, sh*t... you guys are working on this for quite some time now. If tools would be ready it could have been enough for a second release too.
Sure Sigma announced that months and months ago but the fact is even they when they announce doesnt mean the samples and SDK are available instantly. Their samples are just being available now.
Well, that's sux but not unknown in this industry.
And when did they announce this? You get the point.
Well, they don't have to deal with plenty of competitors, you do.
If we are chasing chipsets like this we may as well stay in Vapor mode cause then users will say why not stick this chip in there and that.
You misunderstood something, I think: I was asking
about this as a possible explanation for the delay, I wasn't suggesting it.
Just because H.264 is available doesnt mean that everyone will rush to buy that as both HD DVD and Blue Ray also adopt WMV9.
No but since it's a commodity, comes on a commodity price, there won't be too much price difference and thus there'll be a substantial percentage of the buyers who will rather buy the latest one, even if you price your Z500 accordingly, narrowing further down your profit margin.
Not only good product sells but marketing sells as well, keep in mind.
We will come out with a H.264 solution next year.
Cool - but then why bother with HDMI/HDCP? It won't be important for at least 1-2 years yet now you're spending time, energy, resources, TTM - in other words money.
I am not worried at the moment about prime time windows. I am more into making sure the player works well and the features work well and the player has satisfaction amongst its users. That to me is more of a key than primetime windows.
As you should do know now, I fully agree - your reputation is on the line after this long delay.
Nota bene it's somewhat still true for Kiss' reputation too, though theirs was already lost on their blatant code theft from the freeware GPL licensed Mplayer, especially when they ourageously not only denied the obvious, well-documented facts but claimed that despite the documents it's actually the other way around...
And as a result of missing primetime windows it doesnt sell, then so be it
is your company a non-profit organization?
but I do know a lot of users looking forward to this player and I am confident we will support it well since we control our own development unlike other devices that rely heavily on 3rd part developers plus a forum for every user to come in and ask questions for support etc.
I believe the same but that doesn't mean it'll be financially feasible.
It is very easy for a user who has no clue how a development cycle works to sit like an armchair quarterback and say why not do this and that.
Ouch, it's pretty low-level, pal...
FYI: apart from the fact that I wasn't saying why not to do this and that but I was saying why to do
this and that, it's still way less lame than when a developer has no clue about how his own development cycle works and keeps promising and adding more and more to his 'to-do' log, eventually missing its own promises numerous times. That's called amateur
developer circles, Mr Developer. (Yes, we develop software in-house too, though it isn't firmware for consumer electronics.)
There are lot of things that go behind the scenes that an armchair quarterback has no clue about. If only one understood how these things work they will know it is not easy to stick somehting in a unit and the software magically works.
Really? So how is that when somebody saw the things "behind the scenes" yet managed to miscalculate its own skills, schedule, the full development process by long-long months?
Isn't this even more armchair-like, when you supposedly knew the tricks and tips and traps yet still couldn't avoid them?
For us it is simple, we will release the unit when it is ready regardless of what the users say whether it is vaporware etc. And I already told you we made the mistake of announcing early which wont happen again till we know and finalize for future products.
I understood that - but then how is that you're calling me armchair quarterback after all these? :P All I did is raised some questions about the reasons of this long delay - and guess what, as it turns out, most likely I was right when I mentioned that perhaps you guys simply underestimated the importance of the lack of your direct experience in this field and/or overloaded yourself, underestimated the diffculty/lenght of the process, the total of all tasks.
And you are right it is all talk now, and you have every right to say things about it. When it releases then hopefully there wll be more action