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Denon will have the following models coming out sometime this summer:

DVD1730 - $169
DVD1930ci - $349
DVD2930ci - $849
DVD3930ci - $1499

All have upscaling via HDMI. The 2930 and 3930 will be using the Silicon Optix Realta T2 chip.

Should be unvield in September. Interesting....

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Cool. Thanks for the info. Is the T2 chip the same as what's being used now in the 5910 and external scalers coming out? (I don't know if they share the same "chip" or features).


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Cool. Thanks for the info. Is the T2 chip the same as what's being used now in the 5910 and external scalers coming out? (I don't know if they share the same "chip" or features).


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Only the 3930 will have the T2. The 2930 will sport the new SI Reon chip.

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Only the 3930 will have the T2. The 2930 will sport the new SI Reon chip.

Isn't the REON one of SO's chips, rather than SI?
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Ok, this is nice to hear, and I assume they are 'Universal' players, but I need to know which ones will support:

D-Link
480i over HDMI

Also... what do we know about the Reon chip? Any better than the current DCDi Faroudja(sp?)?

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Isn't the REON one of SO's chips, rather than SI?

Yes. The Reon is made by Silicon Optix and problably less costly and has less features than the Realta.

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From the SO web site. I left out feature descriptions that don't apply to a DVD player:

"Reon-GX supports a comprehensive video and graphics processing feature set, providing a highly integrated, cost-effective solution for mainstream consumer products. Key features include dual independent video or graphics inputs, fully automatic 1080i-to-1080p de-interlacing with 3:2/2:2 pull-down, advanced scaling and frame rate conversion, advanced PIP/PAP/POP view modes, bitmapped OSD, an integrated ARM CPU and gamma correction for high quality image output."

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Sounds like the 3930 has the potential to be a phenemenal player and even better than the 3910.

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If I didn't already own the 2900, I would be all over the 3930.

A bit astray, but why is Denon naming them the 2930 and 3930,
jumping over the '20' suffix? They have the 19'20', correct? Just
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If the 3930 is using the T2, is that for deinterlacing too? I.e., no more Faroudja and MB?

If it's not worth waiting until the last minute to do, then it's not worth doing.

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Ok, this is nice to hear, and I assume they are 'Universal' players, but I need to know which ones will support:

D-Link
480i over HDMI

Since no Denon currently outputs 480i over HDMI, I assume these new ones won't either.
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If the 3930 is using the T2, is that for deinterlacing too? I.e., no more Faroudja and MB?

Yes, say goodbye to Faroudja/MB. Serves Faroudja right for not fixing this problem (now none of the high end players use Faroudja - Denon, Pioneer Elite, Onkyo, Marantz).
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Although tempted to upgrade from the 3910, it just doesn't make sense now with HD/BR on the horizon. A Denon HD/BR player would be sweet!
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Only the 3930 will have the T2. The 2930 will sport the new SI Reon chip.

where do you get this info ?
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Although tempted to upgrade from the 3910, it just doesn't make sense now with HD/BR on the horizon. A Denon HD/BR player would be sweet!

I'd agree with that as well - hang onto the gear you've currently got for another 1-2yrs and then upgrade once they iron out the bugs in the first generation on HD/BR players.

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Does anyone know if these players will support HDCD?

Can I wait until September.......?
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Isn't the REON one of SO's chips, rather than SI?

According to SO site the Reon is "powered by Teranex".

Teranex is the same company that makes the Realta.

http://www.siliconoptix.com/chipProd...A602CE81142155

There is an interesting link to a video clip regarding this chip on the SO site.

Not sure what this means. Are they the same company or are is Reon buying Teranex technology for their chips
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Since no Denon currently outputs 480i over HDMI, I assume these new ones won't either.


If your assumption is correct... it's a real shame.

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The 5910 doesn't support 480i over HDMI? If not, yeah, I guess the 3930 probably wouldn't either.

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Does anyone know if these players will support HDCD?

Can I wait until September.......?

Since the 2910, 3910, and 5910 all do, I would assume the new players will as well.
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Although tempted to upgrade from the 3910, it just doesn't make sense now with HD/BR on the horizon. A Denon HD/BR player would be sweet!

It attracts me as a final (probably) SACD/DVD-A player since (1) support for those formats is not likely in the future and (2) I have a wall of SACD/DVD-A discs.

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where do you get this info ?

Denon dealer training on Monday. I hope they are right!

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Denon dealer training on Monday. I hope they are right!


Did they give you any dates?
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Did they give you any dates?

I'd guess September.

Actually, they told me CEDIA.

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I'd guess September.

Actually, they told me CEDIA.

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When is CEDIA?
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Can anyone answer Larry's question on the 3930's T2 chip?

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Greetings,


I will consider the 3930 as well. I love my 3910 and DVD A/SACD. Currently HD DVD/BD is something I don't see really taking off for a while. The first generation units will have issues that will need addressing. On top of that software will be limited and expensive initially. I will wait on making the move to either format. Once I do I will seek a capable but lower end player and use it to compliment my setup to start.

The 3930 ( potentially ) will remain in my system until such time as a complete replacement is justified by solid performance and reasonable studio support. I honestly son't see that happening any where near the end of this year or the beginning of next.


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Since no Denon currently outputs 480i over HDMI, I assume these new ones won't either.

I thought that this was a limitation of the Faroudja chip that the current Denon players are using.

By the way, does anyone have any info on what digital audio interfaces these players will support - i.e, Firewire or HDMI 1.2 for SACDs? Also, any info on bass management capabilities?

Thanks in advance,
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Can anyone answer Larry's question on the 3930's T2 chip?

Somebody already did. The 5910 uses the Realta chip. The 3930 will use the Reon. I believe the new scalers are using the Realta - have to check over in the video processor forum.

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Only the 3930 will have the T2. The 2930 will sport the new SI Reon chip.


What is the T2?
Anyone?

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