Originally Posted by Quatre
using the Denon 757 1080p uconvert player on samsung 67" 1080p dlp tv, reg dvds at least the one I tried (Accepted) actually looked better on component then on hdmi upconverted to 720p,1080i, 1080p and even 480p which I guess isn't upconverted but the player lets me select any of those choices when using hdmi. so I guess just not upconverted over hdmi and the 3 choices of upconversion. they all looked about the same just the screen size changed a little. and none looked as good as component which I guess is 480p cus it isn't a player that can upconvert over component. if the upconversion was throwing it off maybe then I still don't understand why 480p (im assuming ) still looked slight better on component then 480p or any other of th 3 higher res on hdmi.
was using a monster brand hdmi cable though it is one supposedly made for/engineered for flat screen lcds and plasmas and I'm using it on a dlp but I don't think that should make a diff but just giving you all the variables and I can always switch the hdmi cable with the reg one I have on other tv which is a plasma. but I really don't think the hdmi cable makes a diff.
the bad picture on hdmi at first was partly due to the fact that some video setting was on which completely dulled/washed out the colors while it looked much more vibrant on component. why that setting was on by default that caused that I don't know but I'm sure many won't find how to adjust it/turn it off and will return the player.
turning that settin.g off made it better but I still don't think it was better on hdmi at any resolution compared to component not upconverted at all. I wonder why component didn't have that one setting turned on or at least the colors weren't washed out. I should check what the sttings are at for component I just didn't think they'd be diff from component to hdmi. either way I had to at least turn off that one setting that dulled/washed out the colors just while using hdmi. I wanted out of the box settings to be default and not need adjustment. not have some setting set by default that dulled the colors when using hdmi and even after turning that off doesn't look better then component and in some ways still worse.
aslo I couldn't use the tv zoom on hdmi to lessen the black bars above and below or get rid of them completely on zoom2 as I could on component.
why is it not looking any better on hdmi at any res compared to component? and possibly worse.
I can't believe someone said upconversion is just as good as bluray or hdvdd as I have xbox 360 hddvd addon and hddvds on that look amazing and ten times better then reg dvd upconversion.
speaking of the 360 and its hddvd when I try reg dvds on both that and the 360's normal drive both of which can upconvert to 1080p I get just a 4:3 screen that can't be changed. I am on vga input for 360 and therefore same for its hddvd drive so that could be part of it and the fact that I have the 360 set to 1920x1080 res.
but if I lower the 360 res(which I don't want to change it back and forth all the time as its fine for what its set for gsmes and all in fact tv is set to game mode for that input which is pain enough to change for hddvds so I'd rather use sep player for reg dvds) but if I lower res will that get me a fuller otr at least letterboxed screen instead of 4:3 square? what's the point of upconverting if it makes it 4:3. or will the 360 and its hddvd drive still upconvert dvds to 1080p even when I have a lower res set?
I'd like to compare the upconvrsion of the 360,its hddvd drive, and the denon 757 but like I said at the res I have the 360 set to I get jslust a 4:3 pic for dvds even though its set to widescreen on the 360 and the tv can't zoom it prob cus I'm on vga.
so if I'm not impressed with the denon 757 then what 1080p upconversion player should I try next? what is best? oppo 980? wouldn't mind having the ability to do 1080p over component when I want to free up that 2nd hdmi slot (first one used by hd dvr stb). but 1080p upconvert over component leaves only the kingwell player that I know of so I prob better stick with hdmi for for upconvert on the 1080p set to give me more choice and best possible hdmi 1080p upconvert player.
I just want the best pic possible for reg dvds on 67" 1080p tv and ability to go full screen or at least lessen the letterbox bars which is what I usually like to do for movies (keep some letterbox bars but just lessen their size and enlarge the pic)
for this I would think a 1080p upconvert player over hdmi is going to give me my best result I would think, but again I'm just not impressed with the pic using the denon.
I know its tough on 67" screen being so big, but I would think the 1080p upconvert over hdmi would help not be no better then no upconvert over component and possibly worse or at least less picture size adjust options. the higher res 1080p even an upconvert should look better on a larger tv then a non upconverted 480p.
so if 1080p upconvert player over hdmi is how I can get best possible pic for reg dvds on 67" 1080p tv then I guess the denon 757 is just not cutting it and I need to try a diff player.
what is the best 1080p upconvert player?