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Just wanted to see if anybody has tried this machine that I recently discovered on the Philips website? Nice to see that even Philips has decided to go back to black equipment.
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It's not available for sale yet, with the exception of Amazon.com where you can preorder one for $70 shipped.
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Well, when somebody gets one, please tell me if it supports USB 2.0 or long filenames (unlike the DVP5960).
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According to the manual, it's compatible with USB 2.0 and USB 1.1

Here is the manual.
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According to the manual, it's compatible with USB 2.0 and USB 1.1

Here is the manual.

So after reading the manual I am still confused about its abilities.

It says it supports USB 2.0 devices, but it does not say if it supports them at the HI-SPEED mode or just in the 1.1 SLOW mode.

The manual goes out of its way to refuse support of USB hard drives. It says they are not supported. Does this mean it will not work (meaning the drives are too slow or that they dont support large drives ((they do say they only work with 2k sector sizes)) or that they purposely refuse to work with hard drives).

It also seems to still only use 8.3 file names. I wish these companies would pay MS the royalty to support long filenames on Fat32.

So basically this machine just adds support for DIVX Ultra and 1080P to the capabilities of the 5960. (and maybe drops support for hard drives?)

Is 1080p support even important when upscaling DVDs vs 1080i?

Waiting for an in-depth comparison vs the 5960 when its out.
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Yeah I was trying to find out when this would hit the street. haven't been able to find out yet.
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Have you tried to email philips?
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Have you tried to email philips?

Read somewhere that someone asked Customer Service at Philips, and they couldn't give them a release date. Maybe I'll give it a shot though.
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I had put the Item in my shopping cart to buy , and it says

Delivery estimate: April 30, 2007 - May 18, 2007

so take that for what it's worth I guess..
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From the looks of it they are offering the same remote as the DVP5960; I don't have as many issues with the size of that one as much as others but, I do mind how long it takes to interact with the machine. The main thing I like about this machine (besides the 1080P) is the fact that it Black....... thank God for that!
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Read somewhere that someone asked Customer Service at Philips, and they couldn't give them a release date. Maybe I'll give it a shot though.

I've emailed them asking for the release date.
The answer: it's already available.
Yea, right!!!
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I've emailed them asking for the release date.
The answer: it's already available.
Yea, right!!!

You should write them back and ask where it's available.

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You should write them back and ask where it's available.

I'll try to call when I get a moment and report back.
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Just called their CSR. She's checked several databases. There is no release date as of yet, at least their CS people are not aware if there is one.
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Just called their CSR. She's checked several databases. There is no release date as of yet, at least their CS people are not aware if there is one.

ah, I just ordered it from Amazon, maybe someday in April or May it will arrive on my doorstep, I'll probably forget about it by then
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The decoding chipset has a maximum input bit-rate of 15Mbits/sec, only slightly more than the USB1.1 limit. I suspect the USB hardware/interface is exactly the same as with the 5960, which truly is adequate for almost anything one generally throws at it, and seems not to be the cause of occasional stuttering etc on this player (though might be on the Oppo 970)

As for HD compatibility, the 5960 works on some HDs and not on others; I would expect the same to be true for this machine, and the explicit statement by Philips is just to reduce the number of service calls they get. - DR
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I just bought the 5960 but I"m returning it. If you have a dvd recorded in 4:3 aspect ratio, the player will only stretch or zoom it, and you can't control it through the tv either. It makes my 4:3 dvd's look awful. I even tried setting the TV mode through the player as 4:3 pan and scan but it still stretches it. Does anyone know if the 5982 has an aspect ratio control? I found the following review which talks about this (near the end):

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=8&gl=us

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ah, I just ordered it from Amazon, maybe someday in April or May it will arrive on my doorstep, I'll probably forget about it by then

Amazon will (should) send you an email when it ships.
Also, if the preliminary shipping date changes, Amazon will send you another email notifying of the new shipping date.
Please let us here know if you hear anything from them.
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I just bought the 5960 but I"m returning it. If you have a dvd recorded in 4:3 aspect ratio, the player will only stretch or zoom it,

This is only a problem at upscaled resolutions; drop the resolution back to 420p and all is well. It is a well-known negative aspect of this player, shared by many other inexpensive players. The cheapest player I know of that has all the "universal player" features of the Philips and does pillarboxing is the Oppo 970...for over twice the price! - DR
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I just bought the 5960 but I"m returning it.

And why are you posting this here?
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Amazon will (should) send you an email when it ships.
Also, if the preliminary shipping date changes, Amazon will send you another email notifying of the new shipping date.
Please let us here know if you hear anything from them.

Will Do.
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And why are you posting this here?

I was just quoting M4P. Should I have replied to his post in a different thread???

If you really meant to ask M4P why he was posting about the 5960, I think it is relevant in the sense that it would be very interesting to know if Philips has added pillarboxing to the 5982. This would be a bigger improvement (IMO) than going to 1080p. - DR
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I think it is relevant in the sense that it would be very interesting to know if Philips has added pillarboxing to the 5982. This would be a bigger improvement (IMO) than going to 1080p. - DR[/quote]

Yeah this would make a bigger difference to me as well. I mean its not that big of a deal to change the HDMI setting to 480P in order to have the ability manipulate the aspect but, when I had an Oppo it was a feature that I really enjoyed for convenience sake.
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It will also be interesting to see if this player will use the same "Region Free" hack that the 5960 uses. That machine does a pretty good job with PAL DVD's as I would expect this one to as well.
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I just bought the 5960 but I"m returning it. If you have a dvd recorded in 4:3 aspect ratio, the player will only stretch or zoom it,

This is only a problem at upscaled resolutions; drop the resolution back to 420p and all is well. It is a well-known negative aspect of this player, shared by many other inexpensive players. The cheapest player I know of that has all the "universal player" features of the Philips and does pillarboxing is the Oppo 970...for over twice the price! - DR

Yeah but the main reason I bought the player was for its upscaling so if I downgrade the resolution to 480P, then the tv is doing the upscaling, right? I definitely would be interested in knowing if the 5982 will have the option for pillarboxing. I checked out the manual that someone had posted a link to but could not find anything that discussed it.

I don't know, my old 480P dvd player looks pretty decent so I wonder if upscaling is really all that it's supposed to be, and maybe I should just let the tv do the upscaling?

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I don't know, my old 480P dvd player looks pretty decent so I wonder if upscaling is really all that it's supposed to be, and maybe I should just let the tv do the upscaling?

This is always a difficult question; in theory, the DVD player should do a better job of scaling than the TV, since the player has access to more information (the whole mpeg stream), but in practice this isn't always the case. (Also, you should compare to your old player with different kinds of material, eg video material, since the Philips is better than many players on things like 3:2 pulldown.)

I think people with a decent progressive player should not expect miraculous picture improvement with any of these budget MTK-based players, even the oft-lauded Oppo; IMO the main reason to buy the Philips is the nice set of 'universal player' features. - DR
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This $70 1080p player may push me over the edge to buy a $1500+ 1080p LCD. Wait... does not sound right.
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Still no release date yet....... UUGH!!!!
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Still no release date yet....... UUGH!!!!


Nope, haven't heard anything either!
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so is this good multysystem dvd plyaer or no
buy or no buy?
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