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Dirac - thanks for the exhaustive response. Your DVI-D blade is quite flexible - it even supports native Panasonic resolution, so people do pixel-to-pixel scaling (1366 x 768) via that blade using HTPC or outboard scalers.

I wish you luck with your setup - Oppo technical support is quite amazing and the company is worthy of our support.

You should be able to get the HDMI blade on ebay.
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You should be able to get the HDMI blade on ebay.

I hope if I get a new one on Amazon, it will have the latest firmware, HDMI, and HDCP revisions and whatever is causing the problem, it will have been solved by now. Will be sure and post back, whatever I decide to do.
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Oppo next to create a new Blu-ray player

Posted Feb 20th 2008 8:19AM by Richard Lawler
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Oppo fans left on the HD format sidelines can rejoice, as word comes that the company will add a Blu-ray player to its well-received line of DVD upscalers. According to the VP of product development, the company is "very early" in their development cycle, and we should expect more details sometime this summer. While sooner would definitely be better than later, we can't argue with a timeline that leads us to expect nothing less than a fully featured BD Live compatible player from a company with a reputation for delivering more bang for the buck.
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Oppo next to create a new Blu-ray player

Posted Feb 20th 2008 8:19AM by Richard Lawler
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Oppo fans left on the HD format sidelines can rejoice, as word comes that the company will add a Blu-ray player to its well-received line of DVD upscalers. According to the VP of product development, the company is "very early" in their development cycle, and we should expect more details sometime this summer. While sooner would definitely be better than later, we can't argue with a timeline that leads us to expect nothing less than a fully featured BD Live compatible player from a company with a reputation for delivering more bang for the buck.

WOW -- looks like it's time for another 1500+ post anticipation thread. Who's going to start it -- or has it been already started?
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Oppo next to create a new Blu-ray player

Posted Feb 20th 2008 8:19AM by Richard Lawler
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Oppo fans left on the HD format sidelines can rejoice, as word comes that the company will add a Blu-ray player to its well-received line of DVD upscalers. According to the VP of product development, the company is "very early" in their development cycle, and we should expect more details sometime this summer. While sooner would definitely be better than later, we can't argue with a timeline that leads us to expect nothing less than a fully featured BD Live compatible player from a company with a reputation for delivering more bang for the buck.

Now we're talking! That will be my 1st BR player
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WOW -- looks like it's time for another 1500+ post anticipation thread. Who's going to start it -- or has it been already started?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=997188

Better there than here.

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Does any one have a list of the discrete IR codes for the DV-980?

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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=997188

Better there than here.

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Definitely. But I'm going to subscribe to this one also and follow along with the rest of us Oppo fanboys.

I have a 970 and love it, but just bought a new 58" 1080p Sammy and was considering upgrading to either the 980 or the new 983. Now I'll almost certainly go for the 980 in the iterim until the new Oppo BD player hits the streets.
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Does any one have a list of the discrete IR codes for the DV-980?

DV-980H Discrete IR Codes.
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Does any one have a list of the discrete IR codes for the DV-980?

Nevermind
I just found them on Oppo's site.

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I have a question regarding the 980H's build quality.

My current living room "situation" is that I'm very tight on space, especially under the TV. I am thinking of stacking my Cable Box and DVD player on top of each other. My cable box is the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4250HD. Apparently it weighs 4.25 lb according to the data sheet. Since it's smaller than the OPPO (according to pics I've seen anyway) can I put it on top of the Oppo 980H? Or can I put the Oppo on top of the cable box?

Before you ask; I haven't even ordered the 980H yet so I just wanted to see what people thought before I bought one.
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Since it's smaller than the OPPO (according to pics I've seen anyway) can I put it on top of the Oppo 980H?

I'd do it. It's a sturdy metal box.

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I'd go ahead and set the cable box on top of the OPPO - I've done similar with their players and had no problems.

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I'd do it. It's a sturdy metal box.

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I'd go ahead and set the cable box on top of the OPPO - I've done similar with their players and had no problems.

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If you are using 1080i you can't Zoom. All processing is being used to decode at a native HD resolution.


thanks necromancer. yes i was watching the pic at 1080
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For those who use external hard drive.
There is a way to force the Oppo to play files from an USB hard drive in a required order: copy files one by one. Copping folders or a bunch of files in one shot won’t do the trick.
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...Since it's smaller than the OPPO (according to pics I've seen anyway) can I put it on top of the Oppo 980H? Or can I put the Oppo on top of the cable box?...

I have 3 machines piled on top of each other on a small, but open, cabinet. On the bottom is a Samsung 5000, next is the Oppo, and on top is a FiOS DVR. It's bigger (same width and depth, but taller and heavier) than the Oppo. Not only that, but standing vertically to the left of them on the same shelf is a Wii. I've had no problems so far (over 2 months), with either weight, space, or ventilation.

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For those who use external hard drive.
There is a way to force the Oppo to play files from an USB hard drive in a required order: copy files one by one. Copping folders or a bunch of files in one shot won't do the trick.

There is an ordering bug right now in the DV-980H. A future update should fix this, which will cause all files to follow a standard numerical/alphabetical ordering scheme.
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I've done some searching in this thread, but its a big thread - so forgive me if this is a question that's been asked before (just point me at the link please).

HD-Jpeg looks like a marketing term. As best I can tell, it is only used in relation to upscaling devices (DVD players). It seems to indicate that instead of 1st scaling your picture to NTSC standard size, then upscaling that to the output resolution - it tries to show you the picture scaled to the output resolution.

I'm using the Oppo 980, with HDMI connection to a 1080p projector (looks great btw). I have several .jpg images on a USB stick (drive). I have tested with output resolutions 1080i and 1080p - both seem identical in terms of the resulting resolution / detail in the image on screen. Contrary to some earlier comments in this thread about requiring 1080i to get "HD-Jpeg" to work without scaling.

However - maybe I've done something wrong here? A .jpg file that is 1980x1080 appears "double boxed" on the screen. By that I mean that there is a several inch black border around the image - the 1920x1080 image has been scaled to fit into a smaller window. Attempts with 1280x720 result in the same "double boxed" appearance.

I can tell using a 1920x1080 dot pattern, that the image has indeed been scaled (vs. cropped).

The projector is set to 100% scaling - so 1:1 mapping. DVD images fill the entire screen without any boxing. Divx playback also fills the screen as expected - no extra borders.

I have the latest firmware: DV980H-0B-0903

I haven't tried using the zoom function on images, but you'd think a 1920x1080 image would just 'fill the screen'..

Two questions:
a) Anyone have success getting 1920x1080 images to show on the Oppo 980?
b) Does anyone know the 'native' resolution they scale .jpg to? 720x480?

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There is an aspect ratio error in the DV-980H. So even 1920x1080 pictures displayed at 1080i (the only resolution for HD JPEG) will have some kind of windowboxing associated to it.

At any resolution other than 1080i the images are scaled to 640x480 then scaled to the output resolution.
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There is an aspect ratio error in the DV-980H. So even 1920x1080 pictures displayed at 1080i (the only resolution for HD JPEG) will have some kind of windowboxing associated to it.

At any resolution other than 1080i the images are scaled to 640x480 then scaled to the output resolution.

So there is no way to get a 'full screen' image when viewing .jpg files? Bummer, as it seemed like the simple way to get a new boot screen "captured". Guess I need to encode a Divx or other video file with my new boot image. (anyone have the Oppo default image handy?)

Any hope of seeing this fixed in a firmware update? Or is this a hardware limitation?

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There is an ordering bug right now in the DV-980H. A future update should fix this, which will cause all files to follow a standard numerical/alphabetical ordering scheme.

Looking forward to that fix


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Any hope of seeing this fixed in a firmware update? Or is this a hardware limitation?

This should be software addressable. I just know OPPO has been putting all of their efforts into getting the damned DV-983H out the door, so software developments for the current systems have been put on the back burner temporarily.
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I got an OPPO 980H yesterday. I haven't had a lot of time to mess with it but from what I'm seeing, I'm pretty happy.

That said, I do have a question about SACD. I have an HDMI 1.1 receiver so the OPPO is sending PCM to my receiver. When playing 2-channel SACD, my receiver says it is getting 88.2hz audio. When I play SACD on my PS3 in 2-channel it is 176.4hz.

Am I wrong that a lot of 2-channel SACD is 176.4hz? Does the OPPO not support audio this high? I confirmed that the exact same disc is giving me different results in each machine.

What am I missing?

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SACD's native sample rate is 2.8224 megaHerz. What that is downsampled to during a PCM conversion is a choice made by the manufacturer of the player. There is no standard, though usually it will be some integral multiple of 44.1 kHz (f). 88.2 is 2f, 176.4 is 4f (SACD sample rate itself is 64f). There is no reason whatsoever to expect an audible difference between these two sample rates, which both capture frequencies far in excess of what humans can hear, and which both push anti-imaging filtering far beyond the problematic region near 22 kHz. So don't worry about it.
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I got an OPPO 980H yesterday. I haven't had a lot of time to mess with it but from what I'm seeing, I'm pretty happy.

That said, I do have a question about SACD. I have an HDMI 1.1 receiver so the OPPO is sending PCM to my receiver. When playing 2-channel SACD, my receiver says it is getting 88.2hz audio. When I play SACD on my PS3 in 2-channel it is 176.4hz.

Am I wrong that a lot of 2-channel SACD is 176.4hz? Does the OPPO not support audio this high? I confirmed that the exact same disc is giving me different results in each machine.

What am I missing?

Thanks,
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SACD's native sample rate is 2.8224 megaHerz. What that is downsampled to during a PCM conversion is a choice made by the manufacturer of the player. There is no standard, though usually it will be some integral multiple of 44.1 kHz (f). 88.2 is 2f, 176.4 is 4f (SACD sample rate itself is 64f). There is no reason whatsoever to expect an audible difference between these two sample rates, which both capture frequencies far in excess of what humans can hear, and which both push anti-imaging filtering far beyond the problematic region near 22 kHz. So don't worry about it.

Thanks for the insight. I don't totally understand SACD. I just want to make sure I take full advantage of it.
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I hope someone can answer this for me. I have currently been a 981 oppo owner for a year, while the picture is indeed very nice, i tend not to like the green push in it and just sold it so I am looking for a cheap solution till either better bd players come out this summer/fall or when oppo releases theirs. I have a 42" 1080p LCD television and my question is if I bought the 980 would i loose much percieved picture quality going to the 980 on a 42" lcd set from the 981? I really thought about getting the 983 but seems like a lot to spend when I only need it for mabey 5 months or so. I could always give the 980 to my parents when I get a bd player. Please someone that has experience with the models and knowledge of 42" 1080p lcd sets let me know.
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I hope someone can answer this for me. I have currently been a 981 oppo owner for a year, while the picture is indeed very nice, i tend not to like the green push in it and just sold it so I am looking for a cheap solution till either better bd players come out this summer/fall or when oppo releases theirs. I have a 42" 1080p LCD television and my question is if I bought the 980 would i loose much percieved picture quality going to the 980 on a 42" lcd set from the 981? I really thought about getting the 983 but seems like a lot to spend when I only need it for mabey 5 months or so. I could always give the 980 to my parents when I get a bd player. Please someone that has experience with the models and knowledge of 42" 1080p lcd sets let me know.

The 980 should serve you well. It has a "sharper" looking picture compared to the "film-like picture from the 981. It should look very good on your tv. No Faroudja like the 981, so no green push and no macroblocking either. Oppo has some comparison charts ect.. on their website. Maybe check those out too.
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Am I wrong that a lot of 2-channel SACD is 176.4hz? Does the OPPO not support audio this high? I confirmed that the exact same disc is giving me different results in each machine.

The PS3 oversamples. The DV-980H, like the DV-981HD, do 24-bit/88.2KHz PCM conversion from DSD. This is the nominal decoding for SACD.
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