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post #301 of 6369 Old 08-01-2007, 06:25 PM
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onlybestrated e-mailed me today said they will be accepting pre-orders soon. Said all Canadian retailers should be getting stock around August 27th though SolutionsAV is taking pre-orders now. SolutionsAV price is very good, only slightly higher than price on OPPO web site. I don't know what onlybestrated will be pricing them at yet they won't tell me. I am wary of SolutionAV as they have no stated return policy on their web site and orders are by e-mail and phone only. Sounds a bit shady to me.

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Why wouldn't you just order direct from Oppo? Is there a reason not to?
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Why wouldn't you just order direct from Oppo? Is there a reason not to?

You can pick it up from SolutionsAV as well if you are close by. That's another savings of $12 for shipping. This makes it much cheaper than getting it directly from Oppo as the shipping charge alone is $37 USD. Plus at that level of cost there will be likely another +$20 of customs.
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Why wouldn't you just order direct from Oppo? Is there a reason not to?

In my experience, they are not shady in any way. They do have a stated return policy on their site. I have bought 4 players from them. This is from their website. By the way, I don't work for them nor do I get any kind of commission. I just like to see people get the best price and this is the best price that I have seen, all things taken into account:


Why buy your OPPO DVD player from Solutions A/V?

Having been in the home theater business for a number of years, and having used all of the Oppo units since their respective introductions, we are in an excellent position to provide the best customer service, both pre and post sale.

Though Oppo maintains a Minimum Advertised Price policy, we price as closely to this price as possible so it is directly in-line with US retail. We have the lowest shipping rates available, and local pickups are always free.

Because we personally fulfill all local and shipped orders and do not sub-contract to logistics warehouses, we put ourselves in an ideal position to offer the highest quality of service, making ourselves accessible for any questions or concerns that may arise..

We offer a 15-day no hassle return policy without any restocking charges. Because the Oppo units are not widely available, we want to ensure that the element of financial risk is removed when you consider giving an Oppo unit a try in your system. Please see below for more details.

We also offer an exclusive 1-year direct exchange warranty as an upgrade' to the factory warranty for no additional charge. Local clients can simply have their units exchanged within the 1-year warranty period, and clients across Canada can ship their units back to us at which point a new one will be promptly shipped out.
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guyrobinson,

Thanks for the info. I'll definitly keep it in mind if I pull the trigger.
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Gonk,


I just thought of something I do not believe was addressed in your review (I'm at work, so I admittedly scanned through it quickly) ...


The 970 had the 'feature' of having to physically eject an SACD and go into an options menu to switch between 2channel output and multichannel output.

Has the 980 improved upon this? My current Sony SACD changer has a nice little button for switching between this.
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SACD still requires that you either double press Stop or Eject to change the SACD priority.
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Thanks for the info. Double pressing stop isn't that bad.




One more question. I've read that the 970/980 support PAL (with the appropriate code for region disabling) ... but what does that mean?

Does it actually output 576i/50 ... or does it convert to NTSC?
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You can set your output to PAL 576i/50Hz or have the player do a NTSC 480p/60Hz conversion.
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Excellent!

I'm trying to determine if the HQV Reon used in the new Onkyo/Intergra products (I'm getting an Integra 9.8) will deinterlace and scale PAL 576i/50. Assuming it can (and does better than the Oppo) ... this will be the perfect DVD player for me.
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Hi Neuromancer,

Thanks for the information about Oppo. They sound like they are a very good company.

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They are more like a local mom and pop store than a company in many respects. Refreshing this day in age of outsourcing and tight margins.
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I'm still poking and prodding at the 980H to get a feel for what all made it into the production firmware, but I had some time today (keeping a sick child at home after pulling an all-nighter at work) and finished pulling together a 980H review. I'll probably be adding to it (didn't get a chance to toss in some comments about the alternate remote codes), but it'll be a slow process in all likelihood.

Nice review, do you happen to have the HQV test disc? I'm curious to see how it scores compared to the 981.
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Compared to the DV-970HD (which has no 2:2 Cadence support) the DV-980HD is light years ahead. If the DV-970HD is "0", and the OPDV971H and DV-981HD are "10", then the DV-980H is "5" on the scale of PAL de-interlacing and scaling.

So if I use an external device for de-interlacing and scaling, say an AVR like the Onkyo TX-SR875 with Reon chip, the less advanced PAL playblack of the DV-980H wouldn't matter, would it? Video quality of PAL DVDs would be as good as with any other player?
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Nice review, do you happen to have the HQV test disc? I'm curious to see how it scores compared to the 981.

I do not, although I've been thinking about picking it up...

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I'm still poking and prodding at the 980H to get a feel for what all made it into the production firmware, but I had some time today (keeping a sick child at home after pulling an all-nighter at work) and finished pulling together a 980H review. I'll probably be adding to it (didn't get a chance to toss in some comments about the alternate remote codes), but it'll be a slow process in all likelihood.

Any chance of reporting on the results using PAL material for us overseas chaps?
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Any chance of reporting on the results using PAL material for us overseas chaps?

I had a similar request via e-mail this morning, but the first step is to actually get some PAL material to look at. As it happens, I may have a way of doing that, but it'll take me some time to do that and be able to come to any conclusions. Some other beta testers (neuromancer or wmmclain, for example) may be able to offer more information sooner.

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gonk,

You can capture a background from any source that is decoded by the DVD player. I made backgrounds from DivX, XviD, OGM, and JPEG images. I can't wait to see what kind of backgrounds people send back to OPPO.

Also you may want to note that the firmware is now contained in a "980.BIN" file (this is to ensure that people do not flash their firmware with the wrong model firmware) and can be done through USB.

Thanks for both, neuromancer - hadn't tried the "Capture" button on the latest firmware. I'll make some adjustments later today.

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I got my DV980H yesterday and shipped my 970HD back the same day. I didn't notice any difference per se in the 1080p 980 vs. 1080i 970, but the design of the 980 is much better, and no underscan out of the box was a nice feature...as well as keeping all of the other features too. For the 970 you lost features when you were forced to revert to earlier firmware updates to get rid of underscan.
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I got my DV980H yesterday and shipped my 970HD back the same day. I didn't notice any difference per se in the 1080p 980 vs. 1080i 970, but the design of the 980 is much better, and no underscan out of the box was a nice feature...as well as keeping all of the other features too. For the 970 you lost features when you were forced to revert to earlier firmware updates to get rid of underscan.

Actually on the part you didn't notice much difference between 1080i (970HD) and 1080P (980H) says a lot, if you seen other low end players 1080P output usually has some graininess, where as 1080i is clean. You could increase the sharpness a bit to see if you prefer that on your display when viewing 1080P.

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So if I use an external device for de-interlacing and scaling, say an AVR like the Onkyo TX-SR875 with Reon chip, the less advanced PAL playblack of the DV-980H wouldn't matter, would it? Video quality of PAL DVDs would be as good as with any other player?

If you are using an external scaler, then the 2:2 Cadence support is moot, as your external device (Onkyo 875) will be doing all of the de-interlacing and scaling.
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For the 970 you lost features when you were forced to revert to earlier firmware updates to get rid of underscan.

And you also lost lines of resolution in the process.
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Neromancer - You've mentioned that the MediaTek chip used was custom made for Oppo. Looking at the pictures of that chip in gonk's review, it appears to be a MT1389OP2 (the base is a MT1389...I assume OP2 is "Oppo v2"?). According to the press release for the MT1389 here it is a 12-bit/108MHz chip and can do GMC (one-point) and QPEL. Have these features been retained for the 980?
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For PAL, the 981 has noticeably better deinterlacing. It is not a subtle difference. Motion, diagonal lines, general picture quality all seem better on the 981 for each of my few PAL titles.

BTW, what would those PAL titles be, if you don't mind me asking?
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According to the press release for the MT1389 here it is a 12-bit/108MHz chip and can do GMC (one-point) and QPEL. Have these features been retained for the 980?

OPPO has always supported GMC and QPEL, but for DivX only. XviD support is still non-existent, much to my anime watching chagrin.
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OPPO has always supported GMC and QPEL, but for DivX only. XviD support is still non-existent, much to my anime watching chagrin.

Right...saw that the only endorsements were for DivX. Can the 980 play XviD encodes w/out GMC but with QPEL? Also, how come 12-bit/108MHz isn't listed as one of the features of this player? Thought it might be a good selling point unless it's not there.
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BTW, what would those PAL titles be, if you don't mind me asking?

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Right...saw that the only endorsements were for DivX. Can the 980 play XviD encodes w/out GMC but with QPEL?

QPEL should work with XviD. I know for a fact that GMC does not (it even warns you when the player loads a GMC XviD).
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Also, how come 12-bit/108MHz isn't listed as one of the features of this player? Thought it might be a good selling point unless it's not there.

OPPO doesn't have some of the specifications listed on the website. Don't know why.
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Is this player like the 970HD requires that the user set the picture resolution to the highest scaling in order to get maximum channels and resolution from DVD-A and SACD discs via HDMI ?

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Is this player like the 970HD requires that the user set the picture resolution to the highest scaling in order to get maximum channels and resolution from DVD-A and SACD discs via HDMI ?

I asked this question earlier in the thread. This link will take you to my question, and Neuromancer's response.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post11122396

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They all seem to be TV movies/series, so I wonder if the source material is somehow compromised, more than your average PAL DVD movie? Not that it really matters.
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