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post #4531 of 6369 Old 07-21-2008, 10:45 AM
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Is it possible on the oppo 983 to get SACD and dvd audio playback via hdmi my amp is the rotel 1069 so it only has hdmi 1.1

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DVD-Audio yes. SACD no. In order to pass SACD audio via HDMI your AVR/AVP requires at least HDMI version 1.2.

Actually, the 983 sends SACD/DVD-A out as PCM which your Rotel should handle, even with HDMI 1.1

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so, one last question...is it worth it going from a 971H to a 980H if i am going from a 65" rear projection Mitsubishi (1080i) to a 67" Samsung DLP (1080p)?

i'm giving my Mitsubishi to my brother in-law and i want to keep the 971H with that TV, but now he's saying that he might not want the 971H...i'm trying to get him to pony up ~$100 towards the 980H for me...h3ll, i'm giving him the TV...the least he could do is fork over some $$ for the DVD player...oh well.

anyway, i may wind up keeping the 971H now instead.

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IMO, if you are just talking about PQ, there will be small differences between the 980 and 971. The 980 will be slightly more sharp/digital looking, while the 971 will be a pinch softer and more film-like. The uprade to the 980 is more of a whole package deal, with the biggest increase in features leaning more to the audio side. If you are on a budget, (if it were me) I'd just keep useing the 971. If you want to get into stuff like 480i over hdmi to feed an external scaler, and SACD via DSD, then maybe the 980 would be better. However, if you are just useing audio for movie soundtracks, then again I'd stick with the 971.

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thanks Smarty-pants...since i really only watch DVD movies and am not going to be doing anything else "fancy" (ie, SACD), i guess i'll just stick with the 971H and make things easier on myself. if i'm not going to gain much on the HDMI upconvert with the 980H, then it's prolly not worth it at this point.

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...is it worth it going from a 971H to a 980H if i am going from a 65" rear projection Mitsubishi (1080i) to a 67" Samsung DLP (1080p)?

Two more things to consider:
  1. A DLP should be fed with a progressive signal, so the 971 should be set to 720p, and the TV will have to scale the image to 1080p. Many TV's unavoidably overscan the image when scaling.
  2. Though the 971 will yeild the better, smoother image on a 67" display, it may be a bad combination with DLP (macroblocking). Be sure to calibrate the new TV, following the guidelines here: Suppressing the Faroudja Macroblock-Enhance Bug. If macroblocking is still an issue, then you might want to consider the 980.
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Two more things to consider:
  1. A DLP should be fed with a progressive signal, so the 971 should be set to 720p, and the TV will have to scale the image to 1080p. Many TV's unavoidably overscan the image when scaling.
  2. Though the 971 will yeild the better, smoother image on a 67" display, it may be a bad combination with DLP (macroblocking). Be sure to calibrate the new TV, following the guidelines here: Suppressing the Faroudja Macroblock-Enhance Bug. If macroblocking is still an issue, then you might want to consider the 980.
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darn it, Gary! i was all set on keeping my 971 and now you've got me thinking about the 980 again! i really don't want to have to "tweak" anything, so i may just have my wife get me the 980 for my birthday next month. ironically, she got me the 971 for my birthday ~3 years ago...hehe.

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I'm not saying you should or should not get the 980... but what's wrong with tweaking your system? It SHOULD be done no matter what player you have.

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darn it, Gary! i was all set on keeping my 971 and now you've got me thinking about the 980 again!

BUMMER!

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If I format an ext hd w/2 partitions, one FAT32 and one NTFS, will the OPPO be able to recognize the FAT32 partition ok?

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If the main partition is FAT32, the player should recognize it. However, do not quote me on this, as I have personally not tested this.
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Ok, thanks. I could test it on one of my current ext drives, see if it works ok.

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Version: MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: DV980-19-0722
Category: Minor Update
Release Date: July 25, 2008
Release Notes:

1. 2:2 Cadence Support

This version enhances the DV-980H's de-interlacing ability to add 2:2 cadence support. Both 2:2 PAL film cadence and 2:2 NTSC 30fps video cadence are supported. This is in addition to 3:2 NTSC film cadence already supported by the previous firmware releases.

2. User Selectable Forced De-interlacing Mode

This firmware version adds a setup menu item "De-interlacing Mode" in the "Video Setup Page". The default setting is "Auto", which is the recommended setting and the same as the previous firmware (plus 2:2 support). The new "Film" and "Video" settings can force the DV-980H to use "film" or "video" algorithm to perform de-interlacing. The "Film" option can be used when the you know that the source is high-quality 3:2 or 2:2 pull-down and want to avoid any loss of cadence lock while watching that source. The "Video" option can be used if you are certain the disc is made from footage originally shot with a video camera, not with a film camera.

3. User Selectable Pause Mode

This firmware version adds a setup menu item "Pause Mode" in the "Video Setup Page". The default setting is "Auto", which is the recommended setting and the same as the previous firmware. The new "Frame" and "Field" settings can force the DV-980H to show a static "frame" or "field" when paused. A static "frame" is assembled using two "fields". A static "field" is interpolated from a single field (half a frame). Depending on the encoding of the DVD, one mode may yield a clearer static picture than the other.

4. "Auto" Output Resolution

The player's default output resolution is now set to "Auto". With this setting, the player checks with the display device to determine the best output resolution over HDMI output. Experienced users, users who play both PAL and NTSC contents, and users who use the component output should still manually select an output resolution to ensure the best picture quality.

5. Stability Improvement

This firmware version addresses a problem of unable to resume playback after a movie is stopped in the "pre-stop" mode for a period of time. When a user presses the "STOP" button once during a movie to put it in the "pre-stop" mode, playback should resume if the user presses the "PLAY" button. With the previous firmware versions, occasionally playback will not resume upon pressing the "PLAY" button. Instead, the user needs to press the "EJECT" button twice to resume the movie. This version resolves the problem, and playback from "pre-stop" mode can be resumed reliably by pressing the "PLAY" button.

6. Bass Management for 96k Source

This firmware version optimizes the DSP (Digital Signal Processor) usage and adds bass management for audio sources that are encoded in 96kHz sample rate. When the front speakers are set to "Small" and subwoofer is set to "On", the DV-980H can redirect bass from the front channels to the LFE subwoofer channel. This improvement applies to DVD-Video and DVD-Audio discs. It is in addition to bass management already supported in previous firmware releases for sources with less than 96k sample rate (CD, DVD-Audio/Video and SACD).

7. Improved Transition between Audio Tracks

This firmware version improves the transition between audio tracks. For CD, the improvement is noticeable on certain discs that have very tight transition between two tracks, and discs that start with a very strong note. For SACD, the improvement honors the gap flag inserted between two tracks (often found between two symphony pieces on a classical music SACD), while at the same time maintains a gapless transition if no such flag exists.

8. HDMI Output for X.0-Channel SACD and DVD-Audio Discs

This version changes the way DV-980H outputs audio over HDMI for X.0-Channel (3.0, 4.0, 5.0 etc.) SACD and DVD-Audio discs. The previous version outputs 2.0-Channel for these disc over HDMI. The new version outputs 5.1-Channel with the unused channel muted. Multi-channel analog output for such discs had no problem before and is not affected by this change.

9. Improvements Based on User Provided Materials

This firmware version includes improvements made to enhance compatibility with some user provided materials. Although the product specification disclaims "Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used," OPPO tries very hard to accommodate customers' reasonable compatibility requests. This firmware version enhances compatibility to some DVD+R and DVD-R media, large Xvid files on USB drives, visibility/color of SRT subtitles, and recorded DVD with MPEG2 audio. These improvements are based on materials submitted by users. Thanks to all who provided materials for testing.

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you know if this fixes the random 1080i lighting up when output 1080p at times?
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It should, yes.
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I have the 980 hooked up to my living room tv that is a Philips 768p LCD model.
The AUTO RESOLUTION setting doesn't seem to be working properly. If I force the res to 720 or 1080, it seems to be fine. However when set to AUTO, it will only output 480p.

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The EDID handshaking could be off between the two units. The Auto setting itself is still a work in progress, and OPPO recommends manually setting it anyways.
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The EDID handshaking could be off between the two units. The Auto setting itself is still a work in progress, and OPPO recommends manually setting it anyways.

Haven't tried the new FW yet, but the beta version seems to have issues with the auto resolution setting. Sometimes it seems to be in auto even when it's set to 1080p, and forgets where it was set previously, jumping through the settings, etc. It never did this before the auto setting was implemented. I've had to manually re-set it to 1080p several times.
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Like I said, the auto detection is a work in progress. I ideally you will still want to change the output resolution manually (the player will not auto-detect unless you select the option again).

I haven't had issues connected through the VP50, but I have not tried going straight to the projector or the receiver to verify it works through them properly.
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Auto resolution in the new firmware worked fine for my setup. Mine is connected to an oppo hm-31 switch, then an onkyo AVR, and then a Pioneer 110FD plasma. The TV reported 1080p dot-by-dot and the lights on the oppo also indicated 1080p. If I turned off the TV the lights on the oppo would drop to 1080i. This is the same result I got with a Pioneer 51FD BD player (just bought today).
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Has anyone had any issues playing DVD+R dvd's? I thought I remembered reading something earlier in the thread. Specifically, I'm going to be buying Taiyo Yuden.

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Has anyone had any issues playing DVD+R dvd's? I thought I remembered reading something earlier in the thread. Specifically, I'm going to be buying Taiyo Yuden.

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TY works fine.

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Version: MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: DV980-19-0722
Category: Minor Update
Release Date: July 25, 2008

Neuromancer, are there any changes in this version over the most recent beta version? All the enhancements look the same to me.

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I tried few disks last nite, seemed to have fixed the wrong res light being lit. Always left the player on 1080p so never had a handshake issue.
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Neuromancer, are there any changes in this version over the most recent beta version? All the enhancements look the same to me.

Its basically an Official release of the previous Beta Firmware. There have been some minor tweaks here and there, but it is basically the same firmware.
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Its basically an Official release of the previous Beta Firmware. There have been some minor tweaks here and there, but it is basically the same firmware.

Understood...thanks.
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Has anyone had any issues playing DVD+R dvd's? I thought I remembered reading something earlier in the thread. Specifically, I'm going to be buying Taiyo Yuden.

Other than using Verbatim for double layer discs, I use T-Ys exclusively. I have been using the glossy inkjet printables with a Canon printer and the results are fantastic.......but you didn't ask about that......

Not a dud after 5-600 CD-Rs/DVD-Rs.


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The new FW sends out just PCM while playing VOBs witch definitely sounds worse than RAW.
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The new FW sends out just PCM while playing VOBs witch definitely sounds worth than RAW.

In my experience, each VOB is different. Some sends RAW, some sends 2ch. I just press the "AUDIO" button to select the Dolby or DTS track. Sometimes the subtitle would come up and I had to turn it off manually using the "SUBTITLE" button. Talked to OPPO supports a few months ago and they said it was due to the player not reading IFO from USB, just VOB so there was no navigation information.
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One thing I noticed with the latest firmware was the option to change SACD over HDMI (between PCM and DSD) was grayed out with the output resolution set to 720p. I typically pass 720p to my 1366x768 LCD. Once I changed the output resolution to 1080i or higher, the option was no longer grayed and could be changed. While at 1080i, I switched to option to DSD, and now the option is not grayed out even after switching back to 720p. No biggie, just an anomaly.
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It's grayed out because a disc was playing, not because of the resolution. When you switched the resolution, you must have stopped playback, and that unlocked the option. This is the same as all previous firmware.
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