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Oppo will soon be launching their newest player, the 983. Its a 980 with some very big improvements. It uses ABT 102 deinterlacing chip and ABT 1010 scaling engine. I took some crappy photos I will post later today, but it looks like a 980 (except the USB port is moved to the read of the unit). The other difference is that it has RS232 and IR in and out ports on the rear. This player is basically the processing of a VP50 added right inline with a 980. So it will have an exceptional picture to be sure. They had one on display at the ABT booth this past week at Cedia.


Expected to sell for $300-349 (according to estimates by Oppo, of course it could be more or less as they determine what they need to sell it for)

Just enjoy HD in whatever form you can (Sat, Cable, D-VHS, OTA, HD DVD, or BD).
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Nice, very nice!

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I affectionately call it the "Swan Song" since it should be the last, great, universal DVD player on the market.
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I affectionately call it the "Swan Song" since it should be the last, great, universal DVD player on the market.

Do you have any nice photos to add Neuro?

Just enjoy HD in whatever form you can (Sat, Cable, D-VHS, OTA, HD DVD, or BD).
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I can take some, but I would have to get permission from OPPO first. I'll shoot them an e-mail about this.
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Oppo will soon be launching their newest player, the 983. Its a 980 with some very big improvements. It uses ABT 102 deinterlacing chip and ABT 1010 scaling engine. I took some crappy photos I will post later today, but it looks like a 980 (except the USB port is moved to the read of the unit). The other difference is that it has RS232 and IR in and out ports on the rear. This player is basically the processing of a VP50 added right inline with a 980. So it will have an exceptional picture to be sure. They had one on display at the ABT booth this past week at Cedia.


Expected to sell for $300-349 (according to estimates by Oppo, of course it could be more or less as they determine what they need to sell it for)

Very interesting . . . will be interested to see how it performs. Can hear the red versus blue arguments already.

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Oppo will soon be launching their newest player, the 983. Its a 980 with some very big improvements. It uses ABT 102 deinterlacing chip and ABT 1010 scaling engine. I took some crappy photos I will post later today, but it looks like a 980 (except the USB port is moved to the read of the unit). The other difference is that it has RS232 and IR in and out ports on the rear. This player is basically the processing of a VP50 added right inline with a 980. So it will have an exceptional picture to be sure. They had one on display at the ABT booth this past week at Cedia.


Expected to sell for $300-349 (according to estimates by Oppo, of course it could be more or less as they determine what they need to sell it for)

What is the timeline to shipment? I was just about to pull the trigger on 980. Should I wait?
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Will this player provide a vertical stretch for CIH set ups? How about displaying all subtitles in the image area also for CIH?. If that's the case I'm in!!!
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And... what about that Pioneer 58AV you told us about? Anything else ?
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Will this player provide a vertical stretch for CIH set ups? How about displaying all subtitles in the image area also for CIH?. If that's the case I'm in!!!

Not yet, no. This is something that I am pushing for, as the ABT solution is much easier to program for than the Faroudja chipset, and the scaling, de-interlacing, and aspect ratio controls are also much better than the MTK solution.

With the amount of time it will take for this player to come out, I would not be surprised if some constant height and AR controls are implemented.
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And... what about that Pioneer 58AV you told us about? Anything else ?

Easy answer: forget Pioneer
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Easy answer: forget Pioneer

Gladly!

If you guys can push for CIH support with vertical strech and subtitle positioning I'll get this unit as soon as it available for pre-order. Neither Pioneer nor Denon chose to support CIH.

Thank you. You made my Sunday night. Now I'm off to bed and get ready for the work week

Edit: I'm forced to have a HTPC to control the subtitles inside the viewing area. Would really prefer a player of the quality of Oppo to pull this. Plus with excellent video scaling to boot such as what Oppo is known for... man, this sounds great.
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This player is basically the processing of a VP50 added right inline with a 980.

Any frame rate conversion, or possibility of upgrading to it? For film based content, it would be nice to have a DVD player that output 24 fps at popular resolutions: 480p, 1080p, 720/768 (can it do 768?).

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Hmmm... Looks like I'm going to have to be on Santa's "nice" list for the next year so that I can get me a beta unit!
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How soon will this player be available? Looks great!
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OPPO has an estimated release schedule of "Late Winter". Likely no sooner than December.
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Any frame rate conversion, or possibility of upgrading to it? For film based content, it would be nice to have a DVD player that output 24 fps at popular resolutions: 480p, 1080p, 720/768 (can it do 768?).

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What displays accept 480p24 or 720p24?? I think 1080p24 started to be accepted because hidef DVDs are encoded at 1080p24 (analogous to 480i for SD DVDs).

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OPPO has an estimated release schedule of "Late Winter". Likely no sooner than December.

Neuromancer,

Is this release schedule for beta units or for general availibility? If general availibility... are you beta testing now?
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Not yet, no. This is something that I am pushing for, as the ABT solution is much easier to program for than the Faroudja chipset, and the scaling, de-interlacing, and aspect ratio controls are also much better than the MTK solution.

With the amount of time it will take for this player to come out, I would not be surprised if some constant height and AR controls are implemented.

Neuromancer,

Don't know how much you hang out on the constant height area of AVS... the ability to display subtitles in the image area is the one big drawback for us with anamorphic lenses that like to turn sub-titles on. For std DVD playback you are limited to HTPC (with TheaterTek) or a couple of very dated Samsung decks (this feature is called EzView by Samsung...surprisingly they omitted it from their Blu-Ray player with Reon. Must not be that simple).

If Oppo can implement vertical stretch and sub-title movement they would attract a lot of interest from the CIH community. I use TheaterTek now as a replacement for my Pioneer 59avi since I switched to a wide scope screen. It would be great to go back to a set top player instead of a computer for playback.
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Is this release schedule for beta units or for general availibility? If general availibility... are you beta testing now?

That is the actual release date of the product. I can't really comment on the beta testing as I am still under NDA on this product.
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Oppo will soon be launching their newest player, the 983. Its a 980 with some very big improvements. It uses ABT 102 deinterlacing chip and ABT 1010 scaling engine. ... This player is basically the processing of a VP50 added right inline with a 980.

Crap. If I had known this was coming, I wouldn't have gotten a 980H; I would have waited!

If it's not worth waiting until the last minute to do, then it's not worth doing.

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Kevin,
How's the 980H compared to your 59avi?
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That is the actual release date of the product. I can't really comment on the beta testing as I am still under NDA on this product.

You sure its not a FDA?

I have no info about the new pioneer as I didn't really care to ask them. I just know its $500 and suppose to be a brilliant player, but I think this oppo will outperform it (IMO) for $150-200 less. I think Neuromancer will tell us more when he is able.

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oh, also neuro- am I close on the projected price? Is $300-349 still target price?

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All my neutrality can say is that you are maybe "accurate" in your pricing. *cough*
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How's the 980H compared to your 59avi?

It will stomp it. Unless, of course, you like very large, heavy DVD players which really are too expensive for what they do, then you will love the new Pioneer, as it "feels" like an Elite player.
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This is interesting news. I take it that this chipset will eliminate the macroblocking for certain flat panels? Would it be safe to say that the image quality is more for larger panels since we know that the 980 gives such quality as it is???
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There will be no macroblock enhancement errors as there is no Faroudja chipset.

The ABT is a cadence chipset. Everything you throw at it will be appropriately de-interlaced and scaled. Aliasing and interlacing errors should no longer rear their ugly head, assuming that OPPO codes the unit properly.
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It will stomp it. Unless, of course, you like very large, heavy DVD players which really are too expensive for what they do, then you will love the new Pioneer, as it "feels" like an Elite player.

I would have to disagree. I just did a comparison between the 980H and the 79avi. After several days with the 980H I prefer the 79avi over the 980H. When you factor in cost the 980H is the clear winner of course but I will stay with the 79avi for now. I will definitely order a 983H when they become available for sure.

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What displays accept 480p24 or 720p24??

CRT projectors. I was more curious if it had the capability to output at 24 for displays that could do multiples thereof.
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I think 1080p24 started to be accepted because hidef DVDs are encoded at 1080p24

Wasn't anybody watching film based material at multiples of 24 prior to HD DVD and Blu-ray?

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