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http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2014-08/...oming-to-tivo/


Vudu is coming to TiVo, according to zats.
This would be great!
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Vudu is the first streaming service (announced) to get Dolby Atmos. Mentioned in the early part of this release whose focus is really on blu ray.

http://investor.dolby.com/releasedet...leaseID=869623

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Dolby Atmos movies will be available this fall on Blu-ray Disc™ and through leading content service provider VUDU, the first streaming service to announce support for Dolby Atmos films.

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Vudu is the first streaming service (announced) to get Dolby Atmos. Mentioned in the early part of this release whose focus is really on blu ray.

http://investor.dolby.com/releasedet...leaseID=869623
Somewhat related to this story is an article on the TNW website titled 10 things you need to know about the Dolby Atmos home theatre system.

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Will there be streaming options?

That’s up to Netflix, Hulu, Amazon and the rest of the companies that stream video to our homes. According to Dolby, a 5.1 audio stream takes up 384kKbps and an stream with Atmos meta-data takes up the same space. So all studios need to do is give the Netflix’s and Hulu’s of the world a new audio stream for their movies. Netflix told TNW it has “no plans at present” and Hulu and Amazon haven’t replied to our queries yet. But if Atmos gains wide adoption, expect them all to support the audio feature in the future.
http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2014/0...-sound-system/
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If this Amazon/UltraViolet partnership comes to pass, I wonder if my past Amazon digital purchases would show up in my Vudu account?

Wall Street Journal reporting that Amazon is in talks to join UltraViolet

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Is the PS3 app now able to bitstream DD+ on a download HDX file? I know a year or two ago, you had to use LPCM because it could not do it, but I thought I read in late May 2013 that DD+ was finally coming to be bitstreamed to the Vudu app.

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If this Amazon/UltraViolet partnership comes to pass, I wonder if my past Amazon digital purchases would show up in my Vudu account?

Wall Street Journal reporting that Amazon is in talks to join UltraViolet
I wish they'd hurry up with a download service for movies that allowed great PQ and lossless audio. Some of us stuck on 6mbps DSL or worse, with no end in site.

Maybe HEVC will fix this...

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I wish they'd hurry up with a download service for movies that allowed great PQ and lossless audio. Some of us stuck on 6mbps DSL or worse, with no end in site.

Maybe HEVC will fix this...
Not sure who "they" is, but there is one service that has this (Kaleidescape) for purchases but not rentals.

I agree that the lack of good downloading options is a drag! I put together a list of the devices and services that offer it, in a separate thread. In short, Apple comes closest in my opinion, to what you want, in the rental space. For purchases, it's Kaleidescape, but obviously the price of entry is pretty substantial.

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Not sure who "they" is, but there is one service that has this (Kaleidescape) for purchases but not rentals.

I agree that the lack of good downloading options is a drag! I put together a list of the devices and services that offer it, in a separate thread. In short, Apple comes closest in my opinion, to what you want, in the rental space. For purchases, it's Kaleidescape, but obviously the price of entry is pretty substantial.

They is everyone in movie streaming, including the studios.

Vudu started with download only, and did nothing more to improve it (Vudu HDX downloads started in 2008...). Amazon obviously allows download of TV shows and movies, but... Now I know this is not all on Vudu, but once again a groundbreaking product is released, and treads water.

I never even mention Kaleidescape because of what their hardware costs. I simple box to handle 1080p/24 output as well as DTSHD and Master is all that is needed, you could supply your on external HDD. I mean you want me to spend several thousand dollars to buy a device that just downloads a ripped blu-ray?

To be honest, one should be able to own a simple device setup like a blu-ray player, that doesnt not have an optical drive, that can download a blu-ray file (with lossless audio) for a decent price. The hardware needed is not pricey, and the movies could be $10. Good for the environment, good for people that can't stream well, and move is owned and can't be shared among registered devices.

The movie industry is worse than the record industry at this point. The 30 day waits and removal of lossless audio on rentals just proves that.

There is no cost effective way for someone to own blu-ray quality downloadable files, and they wonder why people pirate and rip movies.

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They is everyone in movie streaming, including the studios.

Vudu started with download only, and did nothing more to improve it (Vudu HDX downloads started in 2008...). Amazon obviously allows download of TV shows and movies, but... Now I know this is not all on Vudu, but once again a groundbreaking product is released, and treads water.

I never even mention Kaleidescape because of what their hardware costs. I simple box to handle 1080p/24 output as well as DTSHD and Master is all that is needed, you could supply your on external HDD. I mean you want me to spend several thousand dollars to buy a device that just downloads a ripped blu-ray?

To be honest, one should be able to own a simple device setup like a blu-ray player, that doesnt not have an optical drive, that can download a blu-ray file (with lossless audio) for a decent price. The hardware needed is not pricey, and the movies could be $10. Good for the environment, good for people that can't stream well, and move is owned and can't be shared among registered devices.

The movie industry is worse than the record industry at this point. The 30 day waits and removal of lossless audio on rentals just proves that.

There is no cost effective way for someone to own blu-ray quality downloadable files, and they wonder why people pirate and rip movies.
I agree it would be nice to be able to rent, via download, lossless audio and actual blu-ray video (not just "HD").

It seems everyone is moving away from that model. For a Home Theater setup (ie, not a mobile device or computer) Amazon only offers download rentals on Tivo (big initial and ongoing expense), Vudu on PS3, etc. From what I can see, Apple is the best bet -- and the only one that is continuing to invest in the downloadable rental model. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Amazon pull Tivo support at some point, and Vudu to stop supporting the PS3 download option.

Which is to say: The options are moving in the OTHER direction, away from downloading rentals at all.

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VUDU does allow downloads of rentals (or at least they once did) to a very small subset of devices, one of them being PS3 and presumably PS4. (I recall that another was a strange old LG BDP with a built in HDD).

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I agree it would be nice to be able to rent, via download, lossless audio and actual blu-ray video (not just "HD").

It seems everyone is moving away from that model. For a Home Theater setup (ie, not a mobile device or computer) Amazon only offers download rentals on Tivo (big initial and ongoing expense), Vudu on PS3, etc. From what I can see, Apple is the best bet -- and the only one that is continuing to invest in the downloadable rental model. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Amazon pull Tivo support at some point, and Vudu to stop supporting the PS3 download option.

Which is to say: The options are moving in the OTHER direction, away from downloading rentals at all.
Amazon support on TiVo is actually expanding. Within the next few weeks they will have an Amazon Prime streaming app for TiVo. As well as a Vudu streaming app for TiVo too.

Now whether Amazon keeps a download option, or Vudu will have a download option is another story. Worst case I could dust off one of my three Vudu boxes I got seven years ago for downloads. But it would only be in DD instead of DD+.

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Yeah, streaming support is great and expanding on nearly every platform, for nearly service.

Download support is the issue. I have no doubt that more and more streaming options will appear, and there be more and more support.

But for those of us that want higher quality or have imperfect internet, downloading is preferable: higher video bitrates, lossless audio, no buffering, etc. I think the last time Vudu offered downloading on a NEW home theater platform was about four years, Fall 2010, when the PS app appeared. They've added many other devices since then, but none appear to support downloading of rentals.

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I'm sure that the wishes of their content providers is a big factor. They don't particularly like downloading DRM protected rental because they're afraid that the DRM will be broken and the file put up for free download. Of course, the same thing is true of purchased downloads but at least someone paid full price.

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