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Having recently joined VUDU, I can tell you that it is a great back up. I cannot tell you how many times I have just decided to order movies on whim (and this coming from a non renter). In fact, I look forward to the day it evolves some more and hopefully takes a bigger share of my HI-DEF purchases/rentals.

With any luck 2009 will be the year that the studio's greed for purchase revenue overcomes their fear of allowing purchase of HD Digital Downloads. Even if they do, I'll likely just continue to rent titles - you have to want to watch a movie way too many times to justify the price - otherwise it's cheaper to just rent it when you want to watch it again. Hardly anything coming out of the studios these days is something I'd want to keep watching over and over again.

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Anybody have any thoughts on the xl2 or is there a thread for this?
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Anybody have any thoughts on the xl2 or is there a thread for this?

I don't think you'll find many XL2 owners on this forum. I do know that the XL2 is the same motherboard and specifications as the XL1, with the difference being the rackmounted case.

I do own an XL1, so I can answer practical questions about the difference between an XL1 and the original BX100. The main differences are:

1) Hard Drive - 1TB vs 250GB
2) IP Control for systems integration is only supported on XL1/2
3) Component on the XL1/2 supports full HD 1080p, but only 480P on BX100 (all boxes support full HD on HDMI)
4) The XL series have simultaneous output on HDMI and Component, when you connect to HDMI on BX100 the other Video outputs go dark.

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Thanks; I think the xl2 has more space as well. How many HDX movies fit on a xl1? Also any comments on blu ray to vudu hdx compare? I have a 60 inch elite kuro for viewing and a high end audio for decoding as well.
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Are you sure your VUDU is set for the max download bandwidth of 4mbs? Go into the service quality section and double check.

The VUDU box is capped at 4mbs. An HDX title typically takes my three boxes 3.5 to 4.5 hours to download depending on the length of the movie.

One of the things I hope they have planned for the future is an increase in the download speed. Of course instant HDX would be great, but at least cutting the download time of HDX titles in half would be welcome. So increasing the download speed to 8mbs would hopefully accomplish that.

VUDU has changed alot since I got it a year ago. Each software update brings more improvements. They certainly aren't sitting still.The box keeps evolving into something better and better.

Thanks aaronwt. I think i had a downpeak when I plugged the Vudu initially so my 4mbps connection was disabled. I ran the Service Utility again and I got 4mbps. Now I can download HDX movies in 3-4 hours.

I'm just curious if cap they have to 4mbps is because of bandwidth expense or something else. Cause it kind of defeats the purpose if we can't download HDX movies in real time or even faster. You would figure it would off-load their servers much quicker then capping it and occupying bandwith at 4mbps for even worse 2mbps for some.

This is one of the primary things I would like to see unclogged.

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Thanks aaronwt. I think i had a downpeak when I plugged the Vudu initially so my 4mbps connection was disabled. I ran the Service Utility again and I got 4mbps. Now I can download HDX movies in 3-4 hours.

I'm just curious if cap they have to 4mbps is because of bandwidth expense or something else. Cause it kind of defeats the purpose if we can't download HDX movies in real time or even faster. You would figure it would off-load their servers much quicker then capping it and occupying bandwith at 4mbps for even worse 2mbps for some.

This is one of the primary things I would like to see unclogged.

It gets a little bit complicated at this point because one of Vudu's goals is to make the impact of the service on the users home network negligible. Instant HD service requires the user to have 300KB upload bandwidth available for peeering. Instand SD requires 200KB, while delayed viewing SD requires 100KB upload (the minimum to be a functional Vudu appliance). In order to support instant HDX, you would likely need enough peers with 400KB-600KB upload available, without impacting their home networks. That is getting on the hairy edge of being able to deliver without dimming the lights on the typical broadband home service, especially DSL. Cable and FIOS are in better shape, but way too many folks are still on DSL.

The good news is you have a choice (i.e. instant HD or delayed HDX), plus the option of being able to access your Vudu account from anywhere in the world via the internet and start that download while your on the road.

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Accessing the account online really comes in handy with the HDX titles. Babylon A.D. was just made available today in HD and HDX. So I rented the HDX version online at work today, and when I got home this evening it was ready for me to watch.

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My Vudu will be delivered today , cannot wait to get it up and running, the ability to start downloading to the box by reserving online is great. I agree with the top poster on Renting vs owning, I was heavily into DVD and buying titles, 1200 later I shake my head at the money I spent vs how many times I've watched a title. I really only buy stuff I know I'll rewatch like Indiana Jones, Iron man etc. And if I want to own it I'll buy the Blu. Most new movies thou won't get alot of viewings, I just watch Pineapple Express last night, and OK movie but not something I'll need to watch again, perfect for rental. I just wish the Rental window was the same on all titles, Babylon was available immediately, Pineapple won't be for another month.
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My Vudu will be delivered today , cannot wait to get it up and running, the ability to start downloading to the box by reserving online is great. I agree with the top poster on Renting vs owning, I was heavily into DVD and buying titles, 1200 later I shake my head at the money I spent vs how many times I've watched a title. I really only buy stuff I know I'll rewatch like Indiana Jones, Iron man etc. And if I want to own it I'll buy the Blu. Most new movies thou won't get alot of viewings, I just watch Pineapple Express last night, and OK movie but not something I'll need to watch again, perfect for rental. I just wish the Rental window was the same on all titles, Babylon was available immediately, Pineapple won't be for another month.


Congrats on joining the Vudu crowd. Don't forget that for the first 3-5 days your Vudu will be downloading all of the software and catalog updates, so you will see some pretty constant network activity - and may not see everything available from the catalog. After your box is caught up to date, you'll be good to go.

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Accessing the account online really comes in handy with the HDX titles. Babylon A.D. was just made available today in HD and HDX. So I rented the HDX version online at work today, and when I got home this evening it was ready for me to watch.

I really hope that VUDU allows online access to the wish list on the box soon, since it is cumbersome to find all the movies that you want to watch. Frankly, I would be watching a lot more movies, if it wasn't such a pain with the existing online software.

Also, I am still trying to figure out why I have to log in every time I navigate to the VUDU site. I checked all my cookies, and it should remember me. You can't even do a movie title search without logging in each time, so overall, I find the online software very cumbersome.

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Congrats on joining the Vudu crowd. Don't forget that for the first 3-5 days your Vudu will be downloading all of the software and catalog updates, so you will see some pretty constant network activity - and may not see everything available from the catalog. After your box is caught up to date, you'll be good to go.

Within the 3-5 day period can you DL HD/HDX movies or is the box too tied up to do so?
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Within the 3-5 day period can you DL HD/HDX movies or is the box too tied up to do so?


You can DL HD/HDX out of the box - I just don't know how quickly you will get the complete catalog titles (first/fastest download). You need the catalog entry to be able to rent the movie. The longest part of the download is all the artwork and headers, which will take a few days. I'd estimate that within the first hour you'll be able to find anything, you just won't see the browser screens in their full glory until a couple days later.

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I would really love to be able to attach either my NAS device to Vudu and get cool Vudu UI interface with maybe covers on all my digital movies and shows, if not that at least the ability to stream and access my digital library over the network.

I think making Vudu also a media streamer would completely seal the deal for me. There would be no need for me to get anything else for renting purposes.

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I would really love to be able to attach either my NAS device to Vudu and get cool Vudu UI interface with maybe covers on all my digital movies and shows, if not that at least the ability to stream and access my digital library over the network.

I think making Vudu also a media streamer would completely seal the deal for me. There would be no need for me to get anything else for renting purposes.


Sounds like a great idea to me - perhaps the RIA interface to Vudu Labs will make this possible some day. I can't wait to get my hands on the RIA developers kit. If it can stream HD YouTube and OnDemmand TV content from the Internet, I don't see why it can't stream LAN media with a few 'tweeks'.

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You can DL HD/HDX out of the box - I just don't know how quickly you will get the complete catalog titles (first/fastest download). You need the catalog entry to be able to rent the movie. The longest part of the download is all the artwork and headers, which will take a few days. I'd estimate that within the first hour you'll be able to find anything, you just won't see the browser screens in their full glory until a couple days later.

It should update the catalog during the setup process, so you should be able to rent immediately. However, you won't have all the cover art or trailers initially and many titles (particularly ones that are new to the service) may not be instant (though the wait should be too bad).

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Hi Patrick, I'm sorry if it's not appropriate but any plans on what I suggest above for the Vudu box? I understand direct playback from external drive might have some legal conundrum but streaming our own content across the network shouldn't be a bit problem no?

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I can say your request is a fairly common one and that I agree it would be cool. But beyond that, we don't comment on features (planned or not) that aren't ready for release. Sorry.

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I can say your request is a fairly common one and that I agree it would be cool. But beyond that, we don't comment on features (planned or not) that aren't ready for release. Sorry.

Understandable. Thanks.

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Maybe I need to call Best Buy on this one, but I'd rather talk with you guys. Is the $200 movie credit deal still valid @ BB? I see that they still have it up, but the grey print says it ends on 12/31. Here we are 9 days later and they haven't pulled it from the website, so I'm wondering about this discrepancy.

edit: nevermind about $99 vudu at bb, I'm an idiot and didn't see that was just for the wireless kit. ;-)
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Hello-
VUDU owner for the last year (very satisified, I might add). Have a question regarding the VUDU Wireless Kit-got one for Christmas from my sister-in-law (who gave me the VUDU last Christmas-she's pretty cool ) and she was under the impression that this kit will allow me to view VUDU on any TV. When I looked at the box, as well as the VUDU product page, it looks like it is a wireless hook-up for the VUDU box for only the TV that the VUDU is connected to. I currently have a Netgear Powerline AV Ethernet Adapter so my VUDU and Wii are connected to the Internet in that fashion. So, I can either return the Wireless kit or get a VUDU box for my other TV and use the Wireless kit to connect it that way, correct?
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VUDU owner for the last year (very satisified, I might add). Have a question regarding the VUDU Wireless Kit-got one for Christmas from my sister-in-law (who gave me the VUDU last Christmas-she's pretty cool ) and she was under the impression that this kit will allow me to view VUDU on any TV. When I looked at the box, as well as the VUDU product page, it looks like it is a wireless hook-up for the VUDU box for only the TV that the VUDU is connected to. I currently have a Netgear Powerline AV Ethernet Adapter so my VUDU and Wii are connected to the Internet in that fashion. So, I can either return the Wireless kit or get a VUDU box for my other TV and use the Wireless kit to connect it that way, correct?

Your analysis is correct, and if you act fast, you can still get a new Vudu from the website at http://my.vudu.com for only $99. I have 3 Vudu's now, and I'm really looking forward to what new stuff we'll get on our Vudu's in 2009.

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Any new announcements at CES from VUDU??

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Any new announcements at CES from VUDU??

Sorry, no. Apart from some meetings, we don't have a presence at CES and don't have anything to announce this week.

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What day do the new releases show up on the VUDU boxes?

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Your analysis is correct, and if you act fast, you can still get a new Vudu from the website at http://my.vudu.com for only $99. I have 3 Vudu's now, and I'm really looking forward to what new stuff we'll get on our Vudu's in 2009.

Got it-thanks!
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Can you combine the $99 offer and the $200 off on movies?
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Can you combine the $99 offer and the $200 off on movies?

No, but you might consider yourself better off:

$299 = $99 Vudu plus $200 in movie credits that "expire" in 4 months (use them or lose them)
$99 = $99 Vudu and you only pay for what you watch, when you watch.

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My Vudu box is due at my home on the 14th. Looking forward to it.

Since I have my PS3 standing on it's side, there is room to place the Vudu box next to it on edge. Is this possible to all you current users? What is the power consumption? I suppose I could stack it on top or under an existing DVD player.
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My Vudu box is due at my home on the 14th. Looking forward to it.

Since I have my PS3 standing on it's side, there is room to place the Vudu box next to it on edge. Is this possible to all you current users? What is the power consumption? I suppose I could stack it on top or under an existing DVD player.

I'm not sure about the power consumption but I have it stacked on top of my HD DVD player and it fits fine and since the box is pretty cute it doesn't stand out that much at all.

I personally have greater problem now with Xbox 360 and PS3 looking ugly next to my Denon, HD-A30, Samsung 1500

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I'll have to check Powerchute sometime to see how much power the VUDU uses.

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