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If I type "game of thr" or something similar and choose Game of Thrones from the auto-completed search menu, I get the screen with no choice of discs!

Bizarre, can you see if you have the same issue?
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Anyone noticed a new designed Netflix website which is whiter. Even there logo is different. This means soon another redesigned UI.
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I know they changed the logo recently. The new one was on the Orange is the New Black, Season 2.

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And the titles in My List has had the font color changed to a very pale blue. Making it difficult to read on the now unusually white bright backgound. The My List and Recently Watched tab/divider bars are now a light pale grey. Making the entire page feel sterile and colorless.

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Flat and white is in now. Stupid though.

I hope the binge watching of that Orange show is over soon to reduce congestion even though I watch shows completely unrelated like Disney shows so I still don't understand why it puts congestion on them. I would like to use my ATV3 again. The Roku 3 is great but it still has the annoying habit of shrinking the credits.

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I hope the binge watching of that Orange show is over soon to reduce congestion even though I watch shows completely unrelated like Disney shows so I still don't understand why it puts congestion on them. I would like to use my ATV3 again. The Roku 3 is great but it still has the annoying habit of shrinking the credits.
I thought that if you go into your account settings on Netflix, and uncheck "Play next episode automatically" that it won't do that. Personally I like when Netflix does that. Then you just bypass the end credits and start the next episode.

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I hope the binge watching of that Orange show is over soon to reduce congestion even though I watch shows completely unrelated like Disney shows so I still don't understand why it puts congestion on them. I would like to use my ATV3 again. The Roku 3 is great but it still has the annoying habit of shrinking the credits.
The Atlanta Newspaper reports that the FCC will probe Netflix delivery complaints. They want to unravel the mystery behind the internet traffic jams bogging down the delivery of Netflix videos and other online content. The inquiry was announced Friday by FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler will dissect the routes that video and other data travel to reach Internet service providers such as Comcast and Verizon.
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The Atlanta Newspaper reports that the FCC will probe Netflix delivery complaints. They want to unravel the mystery behind the internet traffic jams bogging down the delivery of Netflix videos and other online content. The inquiry was announced Friday by FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler will dissect the routes that video and other data travel to reach Internet service providers such as Comcast and Verizon.
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I hope the binge watching of that Orange show is over soon to reduce congestion even though I watch shows completely unrelated like Disney shows so I still don't understand why it puts congestion on them. I would like to use my ATV3 again. The Roku 3 is great but it still has the annoying habit of shrinking the credits.
The Atlanta Newspaper reports that the FCC will probe Netflix delivery complaints. They want to unravel the mystery behind the internet traffic jams bogging down the delivery of Netflix videos and other online content. The inquiry was announced Friday by FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler will dissect the routes that video and other data travel to reach Internet service providers such as Comcast and Verizon.
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Mine does not have to route far at all just from Newark to Deleware. It seems that Amazon Instant and the Watch Disney channels route to California and stream much better. That is about 100 miles for Netflix but over 3000 miles for the other services and they stream more reliable. I don't get it.
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All Wheeler need do is have a staff member read thru some of the lively discussion we've had on this thread in the past .. mystery solved without spending a nickel of Tax Payer money on a "probe" ..
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I do it all the time with playlater, a cheap, commercially available piece of software.


Playlater sounded so good, I gave it a try .. conceptually great, execution wise, for me anyway, not so great .. PC well exceeded the minimum specs, 60Mbps down ISP ..
These record protected streaming services via screen capture which is second generation and often with dropped frames unless you've got a souped up gaming computer. I've played with this a bit since I realized that was what Chromecast was doing except it was "teleconferencing" from the Chrome browser on the PC to the Chromecast on the TV. It also would get overloaded and give the fabled "blue screen of death" on the PC.

The free Simple Screen Recorder on Linux does a decent job of recording and Audials Moviebox Record has a working demo you can try on Windows (will record 10 minutes).

Why would anyone do this? Well with some services not all content is available on TV but only via browser.
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Why would anyone do this? Well with some services not all content is available on TV but only via browser.


The only real reason I gave it a shot was NF rotating material out of the streaming library that I wanted to watch but just could not get to .. at any rate, Playlater was a fail for me ..

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All Wheeler need do is have a staff member read thru some of the lively discussion we've had on this thread in the past .. mystery solved without spending a nickel of Tax Payer money on a "probe" ..


That's a good one!


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Not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but there's a lot of intelligent discussion going on here, so thought I'd ask.

Someone was explaining the basic technical differences between streaming services like Netflix compared to iTunes. The essence of it was that Netflix just puts it out there and your system (router, ISP, set-up, etc) has to do most of the work, whereas with iTunes, they do a co-server type thing (this is where my memory gets fuzzy) so that they are sharing some of the work. My understanding is that it requires less raw internet speed and also allows for fast-forwarding, for example, that Netflix doesn't do.

Could someone please explain the technical differences between these two types of streaming? And do we ever think that Netflix might end up doing something like that? It seems to me that it would alleviate all the need for special deals with ISPs, concerns with where the internet path travels, bottlenecks during peak periods, bandwidth caps, etc. I mean, basically all the complaints customers have with Netflix streaming.

FYI, I have business class Comcast at around 40 Mbps hard wired to an ATV3. I get decent performance now with Netflix, but with a lot of monkeying around and the cost of hardwiring. I'd love to be able to fast-forward and get better sound than Dolby Digital 5.1. For starters...
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Why would anyone do this? Well with some services not all content is available on TV but only via browser.
Because content is not up on streaming sites forever. Playlater has served me well for kid content for my kids. record it then add it to plex for easy syncing on devices in order to play them locally.
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Why would anyone do this? Well with some services not all content is available on TV but only via browser.
Because content is not up on streaming sites forever. Playlater has served me well for kid content for my kids. record it then add it to plex for easy syncing on devices in order to play them locally.
I rather buy it on DVD or BluRay and still own it forever. That is what I did with some shows when Netflix pulled some of the content I was watching.

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Not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but there's a lot of intelligent discussion going on here, so thought I'd ask.

Someone was explaining the basic technical differences between streaming services like Netflix compared to iTunes. The essence of it was that Netflix just puts it out there and your system (router, ISP, set-up, etc) has to do most of the work, whereas with iTunes, they do a co-server type thing (this is where my memory gets fuzzy) so that they are sharing some of the work. My understanding is that it requires less raw internet speed and also allows for fast-forwarding, for example, that Netflix doesn't do.

Could someone please explain the technical differences between these two types of streaming? And do we ever think that Netflix might end up doing something like that? It seems to me that it would alleviate all the need for special deals with ISPs, concerns with where the internet path travels, bottlenecks during peak periods, bandwidth caps, etc. I mean, basically all the complaints customers have with Netflix streaming.

FYI, I have business class Comcast at around 40 Mbps hard wired to an ATV3. I get decent performance now with Netflix, but with a lot of monkeying around and the cost of hardwiring. I'd love to be able to fast-forward and get better sound than Dolby Digital 5.1. For starters...


I don't think there is a lot of substantial differences in how one service delivers streaming content over another, at least in the most simplistic sense .. they host material and send it down the pipe .. different hardware/software, etc, sure ..


NF will allow you to fast forward .. I can't speak for all devices, but my PS3's get Dolby Digital 5.1-channel audio on material that has it ..

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I thought that if you go into your account settings on Netflix, and uncheck "Play next episode automatically" that it won't do that. Personally I like when Netflix does that. Then you just bypass the end credits and start the next episode.
I grew up when TV Networks use to show the full credits so I like them. I have the play next episode unchecked but it still shrinks the credits. At least it is better with the Disney shows as many show content during the end credits and it use to shrink them during the content. Now it waits until the credits are just about over a few seconds left after the content finishes before shrinking.

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I've played with this a bit since I realized that was what Chromecast was doing except it was "teleconferencing" from the Chrome browser on the PC to the Chromecast on the TV.

What Chromecast is doing for what streaming services? As I understand it, for Netflix and YouTube it runs players on the device, controlled from a 2nd screen via the DIAL protocol. This is how YouTube and Netflix are controlled by 2nd screen devices (PCs, iOS and Android portables) on Roku 3.

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I thought that if you go into your account settings on Netflix, and uncheck "Play next episode automatically" that it won't do that. Personally I like when Netflix does that. Then you just bypass the end credits and start the next episode.
I grew up when TV Networks use to show the full credits so I like them. I have the play next episode unchecked but it still shrinks the credits. At least it is better with the Disney shows as many show content during the end credits and it use to shrink them during the content. Now it waits until the credits are just about over a few seconds left after the content finishes before shrinking.
I grew up when there were full credits and no fast forwarding. So you didn't have a choice. But I don't typically watch the credits now unless there is some song I like or there is content playing in the background of the credits that is specific to that episode.
But ideally I will skip over the opening and closing of a show to save time.

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I've played with this a bit since I realized that was what Chromecast was doing except it was "teleconferencing" from the Chrome browser on the PC to the Chromecast on the TV.

What Chromecast is doing for what streaming services? As I understand it, for Netflix and YouTube it runs players on the device, controlled from a 2nd screen via the DIAL protocol. This is how YouTube and Netflix are controlled by 2nd screen devices (PCs, iOS and Android portables) on Roku 3.
Well obviously NOT Netflix and YouTube but say you want to watch "Hannibal" on your TV via Hulu+. They don't have the rights to stream it to your TV so you play it on Chrome and "cast" it to the TV.
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What Chromecast is doing for what streaming services? As I understand it, for Netflix and YouTube it runs players on the device, controlled from a 2nd screen via the DIAL protocol. This is how YouTube and Netflix are controlled by 2nd screen devices (PCs, iOS and Android portables) on Roku 3.

Well obviously NOT Netflix and YouTube but say you want to watch "Hannibal" on your TV via Hulu+. They don't have the rights to stream it to your TV so you play it on Chrome and "cast" it to the TV.

Interesting. I notice that Chromecast has a Hulu app now, but you're saying that if you ask for a Hulu title which can only be played on a PC it will send it from the 2nd screen device to the television as video?

I see a tech blog post that says that Hulu didn't use DIAL for its casting from portables to game consoles but will implement it in the future to cover additional devices.

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Bizarre, can you see if you have the same issue?
Same thing happens, so it's not just you.
I just did it and the same thing happened. Then I selected DVDs on the menu at the top and typed it again and the choose disks menu came up. The initial search was for streaming content, I guess that's the default. Just click on "DVDs" before you search.
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I think one day Netflix is going to announce that they are stopping the disc by mail service and are going to be streaming only. They lose more money on shipping discs as the postage goes up. When the disc service was combined I rarely used it just for a few movies. I never used it for TV series as it will take forever to watch as they send me one disc with 4 episodes then I have to send it back to get another disc with 4 episodes. It was not worth the hassle. Streaming is what Netflix is pushing as they never even advertise the disc service anymore.

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I think one day Netflix is going to announce that they are stopping the disc by mail service and are going to be streaming only. They lose more money on shipping discs as the postage goes up. When the disc service was combined I rarely used it just for a few movies. I never used it for TV series as it will take forever to watch as they send me one disc with 4 episodes then I have to send it back to get another disc with 4 episodes. It was not worth the hassle. Streaming is what Netflix is pushing as they never even advertise the disc service anymore.
Only recently did the streaming profits surpass the disc profits. Things are certainly changing. I used to rarely have an issue getting a new BD from Netflix. But I've had one disc each week for three weeks not get shipped to me. Prior, it might be two years to hit that number. So I will be dropping my disc plan from four BDs out down to one. So they will certainly be getting less money from me. I will still stream content but I will now just get more 2D rentals from www.3d-blurayrental.com and RedBox since I can't rely on Netflix anymore.

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I think one day Netflix is going to announce that they are stopping the disc by mail service and are going to be streaming only. They lose more money on shipping discs as the postage goes up.
Until very recently all of Netflix profits came from disk rental. Of course one day Netflix will drop disk rental. A lot of people hope they will continue as long as it's profitable. As someone who never really used disk rental I wonder why you look forward to it going away.

It will be years before Netflix streaming can match Blu-ray quality, but Sony and Netflix couldn't care less.

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What Chromecast is doing for what streaming services? As I understand it, for Netflix and YouTube it runs players on the device, controlled from a 2nd screen via the DIAL protocol. This is how YouTube and Netflix are controlled by 2nd screen devices (PCs, iOS and Android portables) on Roku 3.

Well obviously NOT Netflix and YouTube but say you want to watch "Hannibal" on your TV via Hulu+. They don't have the rights to stream it to your TV so you play it on Chrome and "cast" it to the TV.

Interesting. I notice that Chromecast has a Hulu app now, but you're saying that if you ask for a Hulu title which can only be played on a PC it will send it from the 2nd screen device to the television as video?
No, you play the episode on a Chrome browser on the PC with the Chromecast plug-in installed and it was broadcast that tab to the Chromecast connected to the TV. You can read up on what Chromecast does on Google Play.

I got the Chromecast because it was only $35 and allowed me to have SuperHD without buying a new BD player. Also Hulu+ was one the first apps on Chromecast. Development for it is open now and it doesn't even require the Google API just Google Play Services which means that Amazon could have made an app if they wanted too but obviously didn't want too.
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