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I've been interested in cutting as much from my cable bill as possible. As such I've determined that Comcast's 6Mbps plan actually suites my needs sufficiently (disclaimer... I have only had this plan for a few days now, down from 25Mbps, and haven't had a whole lot of time to experiment around with Netflix and online streaming outside of youtube).

Netflix states that 5Mbps download speed is sufficient for HD streaming. I'm not sure if they this is regarding 720p streaming or the higher quality superHD 1080p streaming quality. As such, I think that I'm not going to be able to tell a difference.

Also, my online gaming needs do not require much more than 1Mbps, so my 25Mbps plan was overkill in my opinion.

So I'm wondering, what do you need the 65-70Mbps plan for? You must do a lot of downloading? When I was transcoding I could have used the higher speed plans but it was a lot more money to have a sufficient upload speed. With transcoding I would have liked to have a minimum of 10Mbps upload and the only plan that Comcast said I could purchase with that type of upload speed was there 105Mbps download speed at the time.

Anyhow, I'm gonna try the 6Mbps download plan for the time being.

Actually the 100Mbps plan is their bottom plan for internet, you can upgrade to 1000mbps, that's more for business though. My power company is in direct competition with Comcast for internet and cable. There was a huge push back from Comcast when they first jumped in to the fray. We are supposed to have the fastest internet in the country, don't know how true that is but I became disgusted with outages when it rained and constant throttling even though they deny it.


With the 100mbps service, my wife,myself and 2 kids can be on with little to no lag. Download an 8gig movie in 2 mins. I hate Comcast so it was a no brainer to kick them to the curb.
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Actually the 100Mbps plan is their bottom plan for internet, you can upgrade to 1000mbps, that's more for business though
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With the 100mbps service, my wife,myself and 2 kids can be on with little to no lag. Download an 8gig movie in 2 mins.

At 100 Mbps 8GB would take 10 minutes, 40 seconds. Just saying' . That 1Gbps service would get it down in 1 minute, if you could get that much bandwidth on your connection to the server.

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At 100 Mbps 8GB would take 10 minutes, 40 seconds. Just saying' . That 1Gbps service would get it down in 1 minute, if you could get that much bandwidth on your connection to the server.



You are correct, that should read 2gb.
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My direct peering is gone. Instead of ranting here you know the usual links.
Netflix issues in the evening with Time Warner Cable.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r294...e-Warner-Cable

I will try to not get on everybody's nerve when I have issues tonight. Back to the PS4 as it does have a huge buffer that can handle congestion better than the ATV3 which can't and I also have Amazon Instant on the Fire TV.

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I wonder if you can't sometimes incidentally get routed to Netflix servers entirely through TWC's network without there being a direct peering agreement?

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I think they are testing it as this address 108.175.35.169 still does direct peering. Also I am now connecting localy to NYC CDN again which at least goes though only one Level3 hop. Just some kind of notice in the news that is not about Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and originals would confirm they are doing something.

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It's so nice to have AT&T and Netflix be buddy buddy. As long as the movie or tv show is advertised as HD, I will stay on SuperHD for the entire program.
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Netflix has their July ISP Speed Index up. Verizon FiOS and AT&T U-verse are still at the very bottom of the pack, despite having struck direct peering agreements with Netflix. They must still be at work on getting that set up; maybe their positions will improve next month.

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Well, I mean, they didnt cut ATT's on until end of July...
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Netflix has their July ISP Speed Index up. Verizon FiOS and AT&T U-verse are still at the very bottom of the pack, despite having struck direct peering agreements with Netflix. They must still be at work on getting that set up; maybe their positions will improve next month.
AT&T is working great in my area. Not sure why Verizon is giving Netflix such a hard time still?
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AT&T is working great in my area. Not sure why Verizon is giving Netflix such a hard time still?
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AT&T and Netflix started preparing in early May 2014 after the agreement was reached and before it was signed like Comcast and Netflix prepared in advance after their agreement was reached before signing.


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Netflix has their July ISP Speed Index up. Verizon FiOS and AT&T U-verse are still at the very bottom of the pack, despite having struck direct peering agreements with Netflix. They must still be at work on getting that set up; maybe their positions will improve next month.
Netflix ISP Speed Index for July 2014 is from July 1 to July 31. The peering agreement was announced on July 29. The Netflix ISP Speed Index for August 2014 may reflect a higher result for AT&T.

With my A&T connection the speed did not ramp to max and stabilize on Netflix until around August 8 to August 11 and is working 24/7 now with me connecting to the AT&T exchange in Richardson, Texas home of the AT&T corporate headquarters.


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Just saying has anyone got direct peering before any announcement was made. Heck as you all know I have been getting it with Time Warner Cable now connecting me to NYC CDN with a 23.246.7.155 type IP address with certain programs that seem popular and I still get a Level3 connection to the NYC CDN to at a 108 address with other programs which I think are less popular.

I must be one of the lucky ones or maybe they heard all the complaining I do on this forum.

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AT&T wasn't doing so well last night as I did get some drop downs and rebuffering binging on "Southcliffe". Might be time to reset the IP lease again.
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AT&T wasn't doing so well last night as I did get some drop downs and rebuffering binging on "Southcliffe". Might be time to reset the IP lease again.
I theorize that they are still running equipment/compatibility/port/location checks, etc. Which to me would seem logical with a complex roll out.

I noticed a few nights this week including last night between 8:30pm and 9:30pm it took about 60 seconds to 90 seconds to ramp up to max speed then stabilize. At all other times it ramps up in 20 to 30 seconds to max speed and stabilizing.

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My connection is from my hometown AT&T Central Office/IP to the AT&T exchange in Richardson, Texas home of the AT&T corporate headquarters 120 miles south of me.

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AT&T and Netflix started preparing in early May 2014 after the agreement was signed like Comcast and Netflix prepared in advance after their agreement was signed.

It's been said that Comcast and Netflix had most of the work for the direct peering done before they signed an agreement in anticipation that they would do so. AT&T and Verizon maybe not. But Comcast's network absolutely dwarfs everyone except TWC, with 18.6M high speed data subs nationwide in 2012 (TWC had 11.1M--source).

Verizon struck a deal with Netflix in late April and FiOS is still on the bottom.

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It's been said that Comcast and Netflix had most of the work for the direct peering done before they signed an agreement in anticipation that they would do so. AT&T and Verizon maybe not. But Comcast's network absolutely dwarfs everyone except TWC, with 18.6M high speed data subs nationwide in 2012 (TWC had 11.1M--source).

Verizon struck a deal with Netflix in late April and FiOS is still on the bottom.
It's simple, Verizon doesn't care. My fax line went out. I need it for my home business. It took them a week to come out and replace it. According to the line tech, the whole system needs maintenance. However, that's not going to happen because it's a dated system and Verizon's policy is to only maintain Fios, even in areas where only analogue will be available.


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It's been said that Comcast and Netflix had most of the work for the direct peering done before they signed an agreement in anticipation that they would do so. AT&T and Verizon maybe not.

Comcast and AT&T reached agreements with Netflix. They started the work while their lawyers negotiated the money that would be paid to them by Netflix; signed the agreements when they were finalized; announced the deal/agreements; then began turning up the connections.
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Comcast and AT&T reached agreements with Netflix.

Can you quote a source saying that the same situation was done for AT&T? Cause if they did set up for it far in advance of signing the agreement, it's not showing. Comcast customers almost immediately started reporting improvements.

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Can you quote a source saying that the same situation was done for AT&T? Cause if they did set up for it far in advance of signing the agreement, it's not showing. Comcast customers almost immediately started reporting improvements.
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“We reached an interconnect agreement with AT&T in May and since then have been working together to provision additional interconnect capacity to improve the viewing experience of our mutual subscribers," Netflix spokeswoman Anne Marie Squeo to Time."

That would seem to dispute the allegation that they'd been working on setting things up before the agreement, as Netflix did with Comcast.

Comcast signed their agreement with Netflix at the end of February: for February, the were 11th on Netflix ISP Speed Index, with an average speed of 1.68 Mbps; for March, they'd jumped to 5th, with an average speed of 2.50 Mbps. AT&T signed their agreement in May: for May U-verse was 13th, with an average speed of 1.70 Mbps; in June they were 13th with a 1.50 Mbps average; in July, they were 12th with a 1.73 Mbps average. If they set anything up in advance of the agreement it's not showing in their results.

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That would seem to dispute the allegation that they'd been working on setting things up before the agreement, as Netflix did with Comcast.
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Just a quick question. Where has the "Netflix streaming quality" thread moved to? This thread seems to have turned into a general chat thread on just about anything.

I've been following and testing Netflix on my AT&T Uverse service for 19 months and am curious what other AT&T members are experiencing since the Open Connect Peering is now inline and has been going through compatibility checks, etc. over the past 10 days.

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My area immediately saw a huge improvement. Maybe AT&T didn't get to all their servcing areas yet.
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That would seem to dispute the allegation that they'd been working on setting things up before the agreement, as Netflix did with Comcast.

Comcast signed their agreement with Netflix at the end of February: for February, the were 11th on Netflix ISP Speed Index, with an average speed of 1.68 Mbps; for March, they'd jumped to 5th, with an average speed of 2.50 Mbps. AT&T signed their agreement in May: for May U-verse was 13th, with an average speed of 1.70 Mbps; in June they were 13th with a 1.50 Mbps average; in July, they were 12th with a 1.73 Mbps average. If they set anything up in advance of the agreement it's not showing in their results.

Wait for the August 2014 Netflix ISP Speed Index.

I for one have never seen how Netflix collects said data or been able to validate it. I've been researching this since Netflix came up with this marketing tool.




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My area immediately saw a huge improvement. Maybe AT&T didn't get to all their servcing areas yet.

I also saw a very rapid improvement within five days of the July 29 announcement but out of caution did not post any results until August 9.

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As an AT&T Uverse Internet subscriber this is what I experienced last night with Netflix.

Saturday August 9, 2014 (1800hrs - 0100hrs CST)

Consistent stable bit rates with no video degradation throughout entire time window:

4 seconds to 3000kbps > 7 seconds to 4300kbps-5800kbps
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This is the first time since January 2013 I have experienced a Bit Rate greater than 1750kbps using Netflix during Saturday Prime Time viewing.

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The August results will be 3 months after they signed the agreement. Hopefully they'll have direct connections set up to a significant number of their systems by then, but there's been pretty much no improvement since they signed and the first month after they signed their average speed actually decreased. Comcast had most if not all of their systems actually set up for those connections when they signed and it was just a matter of "flipping a switch" to get them going; evidently AT&T did not.

EDIT: I thought that I'd seen an announcement of an AT&T agreement in May; I see now that it wasn't until a couple of weeks ago. Never mind; we'll see the first indications on the August Netflix ISP index report.

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The articles were posted here recently, by me. They agreed to terms in the spring, and have been working on setting this up since. About two weeks ago they stated things should start getting better over the next few weeks.

Not sure why this is such a mystery, the facts about ATT and Netflix are there and easily found. They have a deal, and speeds are improving.

Im getting 4300 1080p here now when for a few months I could barely get 480p.
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